Game Observations (OAK)

[KRL]

WOW!!!  The Jets went all "Stone Cold" Steve Austin on OAK and dished out "a can of
whup ass" as they dominated them in every phase 34-3.  The Jets are now 3-0 in the
second half of the season and have won three in a row for the first time since 2017.
And to add to the "gaudy stats":

- They've scored 34 points in three straight games
- They've scored on their opening drive in five straight games
- They've had back to back blow outs and this one against a playoff challenger

Special Teams 

- Lachlan Edwards had a solid day (47 yard avg).  But most importantly he didn't punt
until the second half when the game was out of reach

- Sam Ficken had 2 FG's and 4 XP's and his miss didn't have any effect on the game.
But the miss allows the front office to sniff around for an upgrade next year because
he's only 9/14 (64%) on FG's this year

- Field changing return by Braxton Berrios (25+ yards) for the first time this year.
Unfortunately Ficken missed the FG at the end of the half

- Shout out to the kick off coverage unit as they never allowed OAK to get any field
position

Defense

- When you force your opponent to bench their starting QB you know you're performing
well.  Unlike the past two games which could be minimized because they faced rookie
QB's, that wasn't the case today.  Carr was only sacked once but was flustered all
day, first by his team's own drops then by the coverage of the Jet secondary

- The #1 run defense had their way with OAK OLine and Jacobs as they were held to
68 yards.  The DLine didn't put up gaudy stats they just plugged every hole.  Credit
to Henry Anderson, Steve McLendon and Kyle Phillips

- The "stat stuffers" on the defensive side were:

  * James Burgess with 9 Tackles, 1 TFL, 1 PD.  He's grown as he's filled in for CJ
    Mosley.  Unfortunately he also fumbled a fumble recovery
  * Jamal Adams with 7 Tackles, . 5 Sack, 3 QB Hits
  * Arthur Maulet with 7 Tackles, 3 TFL.  But he's got to work on his tackling he
    whiffed on a ton of them
  * Bless Austin with 5 Tackles, 1 PD and excellent coverage.  That's his third
    straight good game    
  * Neville Hewitt with 7 Tackles, 1 PD, 1 QB Hit

- Great one handed "pick 6" by Brian Poole whose been an upgrade over Buster Skrine.
With Ryan Griffin getting an extension I wonder if Poole and Jordan Jenkins are next
in line?

Offense

- They ran through OAK defense like a hot knife through butter.  Totally unimpressed
by them on all three levels, how were they 6-4???

- Huge credit to the OLine as they continue to shake off injuries and multiple moving
pieces to provide a solid foundation to the offense.  They only squeezed out 88 yards
on the ground but kept Sam Darnold clean as they allowed only 1 sack.  Shout out to
Kelvin Beachum as he came back into the game after hurting his ankle because Chuma
Edoga went down.  Beachum and Jonotthan Harrison have provided stablity to the OLine
and let's be honest Harrison should've never been benched for Ryan Kalil.  Kalil had
the better resume but chemistry is way more important and Harrison provides that

- Two players whose scheme fit I questioned last week bounced back.  Robby Anderson
had a good day (4 recs / 86 yards / 1 TD) as he caught balls on various routes.  And
LeVeon Bell probably had his best all around game as he was effective running (12
rushes / 49 yards) and he showed off his WR2 skills catching the ball (5 recs / 59
yards). 

- Braxton Berrios not only contributed on specials but he almost had his first TD.
As he went 69 yards on a slant before getting knocked out at the 1 yard line

- Terrific game by Sam Darnold as he continued his excellent play (20/29, 315 yards,
3 TD's).  Is Darnold's conversation with Adam Gase about what plays he wants to run
the turning point? It sure seems that way, as the offense is now more uptempo,
using more misdirection, rollouts and Darnold's mobility skills  

Good job by the coaching staff and team not to fracture after going 1-7.  Now its
time to get greedy and not be satisfied with a three game streak.  Happy Thanksgiving

[joewilly12]

[ASH1962]

I firmly believe that Sam Darnold has rescued Adam Gase. Not only that, I believe that it will not be very long until Sam is calling his own plays and controlling the offense himself. The difference in what we are seeing pre and post meeting with Gase is remarkable and shows Sam's football IQ is really high.

Getting re-excited for the future. It took a while maybe for them to find the right player combinations and to learn the new systems. F**k draft position, winning is much more fun. Today was awesome, not to have to worry for one second. Priceless LOL.  

[RoadFan]

First game I watched since the New England disaster.  Super happy I returned to see this perfomance today. 

Everything great save for a couple of things.   Not much of a pass rush.  Carr had all day on several drop backs.  And I tried to single out Quinnen Williams early to see what he is doing.  Didnt do much. Then he just disappeared.  Really disappointing from him.

[phill1c]

People want to make it complicated. What the difference is:

• No Kalil
• No Winters

The rest is just camouflage. The new OL have strength AND the center can actually snap and block and not be dominated physically. Now Darnold can mostly relax and know that DL won't be running full speed up the middle from the snap of the ball anymore. He is getting very reasonable amount of time to throw. And that's making the Jets WRs look way better than they have been.

Now, eventually, you'd like to upgrade either guard spot and the LT spot. But at least it looks like an actual NFL offensive line.

I was most impressed with how Darnold threw the ball away when the play wasn't there. But it has to help that he knows he'll probably get another chance, given how well the offense and defense is playing right now.

[Nixhead]

I honestly think either Gase is reading some of our posts or he has an assistant reading them. We all wanted more misdirection with the offense. We all wanted more rollouts and to use Sams legs a little more with a designed run here and there. Some of us even recommended that the Jets run 1 flea flicker every game - like the Patriots - and they have. It all seems to be working as we are keeping defenses off balance and our O Line play has improved tremendously also. It all looks real good right now.

[Paradis]

46 minutes ago, KRL said:

Special Teams 

-Shout out to the kick off coverage unit as they never allowed OAK to get any field
position

Quietly an impressive part of the game today. ST gunners/players were on guys like glue and fast. Great pursuit and tackling. 

[greenwave81]

30 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

I firmly believe that Sam Darnold has rescued Adam Gase. Not only that, I believe that it will not be very long until Sam is calling his own plays and controlling the offense himself. The difference in what we are seeing pre and post meeting with Gase is remarkable and shows Sam's football IQ is really high.

 

How about we say they rescued each other?  Found some 'medium' where they both can flourish?

Not all young QB's have the cajones to approach a HC about what they want to do...and not all HC's would be receptive to that approach by a young QB.  Gase had the tools in his O for Sam to succeed, and Sam had to ideas of what existing tools i Gase's O were better used to satisfy his strengths.

It isn't always 'either/or'..sometimes it's both.

[johnnysd]

Some notes:

Gase is finally coaching Sam Darnold to be Sam Darnold and not Peyton. Sure the "talk" will get a lot of press, but we are seeing a coach and QB come together and that is exciting.

It is amazing how positive the subtraction of Winters and Kalil has been. The Jets still need to upgrade the OL across the board, but they are playing as a group at least at an average level for a NFL 

Maulet may need to work on tackling but lets face it, Maulet and Austin have been nothing short of a revelation. The second Austin got into the game 3 weeks ago the defense has been completely changed and effective. Maulet and Bless are holding up on the outside in man, and the Jets are not blitzing much and there is just no one to throw to.

We can officially say that the Jets DL is actually BETTER without Leo. Many us, myself included thought there will be little dropoff but not sure anyone expected his departure and replacement by additional snaps for Shepherd, Basham. Futakasi and Phillips to make them even more effective.

If the Jets defense keeps it up, we may lose Williams to a HC gig. He did well in Cleveland last year, and while still not the biggest fan, and think it is largely the Blessaun effect, you cant deny our defense is completely different than we started and really effective.

There was not a single Darnold troll post in the game thread. Hard to say Darnold sucks when not only was he extremely efficient, but completed passed to nine 9!! receivers, but he has clearly learned to throw the ball away as well.

Kudos to Gase for keeping the locker room alive to see a 3 game winning streak.

 

 

 

[joewilly12]

19 minutes ago, Nixhead said:

I honestly think either Gase is reading some of our posts or he has an assistant reading them. We all wanted more misdirection with the offense. We all wanted more rollouts and to use Sams legs a little more with a designed run here and there. Some of us even recommended that the Jets run 1 flea flicker every game - like the Patriots - and they have. It all seems to be working as we are keeping defenses off balance and our O Line play has improved tremendously also. It all looks real good right now.

I suggested the flea flicker and @Scott Dierking  made a mockery of it. Just saying. 

Good post. 

[greenwichjetfan]

20 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Quietly an impressive part of the game today. ST gunners/players were on guys like glue and fast. Great pursuit and tackling. 

I’ve always believed that STs are one of the most underrated aspects of the pats dynasty. This year our STs (aside from the Ficken misses) have been extremely solid. Not many explosive plays, but no real mistakes and they always get the job done. 

Was watching LSU yesterday and loved the way the gunners raced to the end zone no matter what - even if it the kick ended up being a fair catch or touchback.

[phill1c]

16 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

There was not a single Darnold troll post in the game thread. Hard to say Darnold sucks when not only was he extremely efficient, but completed passed to nine 9!! receivers, but he has clearly learned to throw the ball away as well.

Good point.

It wasn't too long ago when it was 18 passes to Crowder and 4 to everyone else. I really liked how they got Bell the ball in the passing game early.

It is as if he's catching up to the hype...

Wait, is it possible that Kalil and Winters had mono too?

[kevin45]

KRL, thanks for all that you do. I don’t think any other fan base has to deal with as many lazy beat reporters who are just looking to support a narrative, the way that Jets fans do. It’s nice to get jet an unbiased recap from a fans perspective.


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[EM31]

I know that the 6-4 record coming in was likely very VERY generous to the Raiders but it was still six wins in the NFL.  We beat a team that will be in playoff conversations the rest of the way even if they go on a losing run.

Honestly this game has convinced me that we are clearly better than the group of bottom bottom feeders in the NFL.  A club that I thought we were in once again this year.

The offense is showing what it can do with just a teeny little bit of protection for Sam and I am excited to think what a more stable and better talented OL group will do for him next year. once the GM has had an off season to start doing his job.

Plenty of other positives today but KRL nailed them as usual.  The passing game can be effective without any clear number 1's out there.  We will have to pay Anderson and we should think about trying to get that done sooner rather than later.  We might even save a few shekels.

Enjoy the win everyone. Well everyone except for RaidersFan that is.

[Larz]

Not sure where to ask this but did we ever get an official explanation on the OPI called on the review ?

pretty sure the Raiders didn’t challenge and no penalty called on the field ?

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

Not sure where to ask this but did we ever get an official explanation on the OPI called on the review ?

pretty sure the Raiders didn’t challenge and no penalty called on the field ?

Booth review on scoring play 

 

 

 

[HessStation]

1 hour ago, ASH1962 said:

I firmly believe that Sam Darnold has rescued Adam Gase. Not only that, I believe that it will not be very long until Sam is calling his own plays and controlling the offense himself. The difference in what we are seeing pre and post meeting with Gase is remarkable and shows Sam's football IQ is really high.

Getting re-excited for the future. It took a while maybe for them to find the right player combinations and to learn the new systems. F**k draft position, winning is much more fun. Today was awesome, not to have to worry for one second. Priceless LOL.  

Completely agree on draft position meaning anything after you have your QB, which they seem to have. Any win is more enjoyable, minus an end season win knocking you out of a top spot for a Qb 

[Rangers9]

We’re at 4-7 and last year we ended up at 4-12. Of the 4 Ws we beat two good teams and should have won opening day vs the Bills. The past 3 weeks esp today we were the team we thought we could be maybe not SB or playoffs but competitive. The expectation was that Sam would be better and we spent money and added two impact players in Bell and Mosley. And good pieces like Crowder, Montgomery etc. And we drafted supposedly the best player in the 2019 draft (he wasn’t). Look we should beat Cincy next week NP as long as SOJ's don’t resurface. The second half of the season Jets so far look energized.

[Scott Dierking]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

I suggested the flea flicker and @Scott Dierking  made a mockery of it. Just saying. 

Good post. 

I wanted them to score more points and win. And tra da!!

Do you know why the flea flicker had a chance today? Because the o-line was holding up, and the running game was working. Not things we had back in early dark ages.

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

I suggested the flea flicker and @Scott Dierking  made a mockery of it. Just saying. 

Good post. 

True story: Scott has never watched an actual football game

[Irish Jet]

By far the best performance of the season. Every group outplayed the opposition.

The story of our season is fast becoming the depth guys. Stepping up where the season starters failed miserably. It's still early for some to fully judge but at at Linebacker and Corner we're seeing incredible play from guys most hadn't heard of before camp. Williams is getting the best out of them and it doesn't look too far from a top group right now - Which is great given everyone knows the investment required on offence.

The offence is starting to look like the group that I was excited to see before the season. After weeks of literal hell it seems they've turned it around. Gase deserves credit because it was looking as dire as it could get at one point. He's got Darnold playing and our best 3 game offensive streak for what? 10 years? Encouraging. The mad man might just yet make it.

[Scott Dierking]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

True story: Scott has never watched an actual football game

I didn't have the privilege of watching from the bench as a senior, as you did. And I bear witness to what you gleaned from that vantage point.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

2 hours ago, ASH1962 said:

I firmly believe that Sam Darnold has rescued Adam Gase. Not only that, I believe that it will not be very long until Sam is calling his own plays and controlling the offense himself. The difference in what we are seeing pre and post meeting with Gase is remarkable and shows Sam's football IQ is really high.

Getting re-excited for the future. It took a while maybe for them to find the right player combinations and to learn the new systems. F**k draft position, winning is much more fun. Today was awesome, not to have to worry for one second. Priceless LOL.  

Yeah...Darnold is going to single handedly save Gase.  The way I’ve been thinking for awhile now is that I could personally coach the Jets and keep my job as good as Darnold is going to be/already is.

The biggest worry though was that this scenario played out with Darnold saving Maccagnan.  Gase is ok with me, but Maccagnan a big no.  I really thought Maccagnan would leech onto Darnold and the story would have been written.

[RevisIsland610]

1 hour ago, johnnysd said:

Some notes:

Gase is finally coaching Sam Darnold to be Sam Darnold and not Peyton. Sure the "talk" will get a lot of press, but we are seeing a coach and QB come together and that is exciting.

It is amazing how positive the subtraction of Winters and Kalil has been. The Jets still need to upgrade the OL across the board, but they are playing as a group at least at an average level for a NFL 

Maulet may need to work on tackling but lets face it, Maulet and Austin have been nothing short of a revelation. The second Austin got into the game 3 weeks ago the defense has been completely changed and effective. Maulet and Bless are holding up on the outside in man, and the Jets are not blitzing much and there is just no one to throw to.

We can officially say that the Jets DL is actually BETTER without Leo. Many us, myself included thought there will be little dropoff but not sure anyone expected his departure and replacement by additional snaps for Shepherd, Basham. Futakasi and Phillips to make them even more effective.

If the Jets defense keeps it up, we may lose Williams to a HC gig. He did well in Cleveland last year, and while still not the biggest fan, and think it is largely the Blessaun effect, you cant deny our defense is completely different than we started and really effective.

There was not a single Darnold troll post in the game thread. Hard to say Darnold sucks when not only was he extremely efficient, but completed passed to nine 9!! receivers, but he has clearly learned to throw the ball away as well.

Kudos to Gase for keeping the locker room alive to see a 3 game winning streak.

 

 

 

Why weren't these guys replaced before they got injured? This OLine was the worst in the league and many here were crying for these guys to be benched. I have no confidence in this coach whatsoever. The biggest change in this team is because Darnold pleaded with him to change to offense and the OLine injuries to 2 horrible "starters" in Kalil and Winters. 

[Larz]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

Booth review on scoring play 

 

 

 

Yes but they essentially enforced a penalty that wasn’t called by the refs   Is that a new pass interference rule?

because you could call holding on half the rushing touchdowns looking at it in slo mo

[Drums]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

Yes but they essentially enforced a penalty that wasn’t called by the refs   Is that a new pass interference rule?

because you could call holding on half the rushing touchdowns looking at it in slo mo

I think the same thing happened on the Griffin TD in the Bills game that got called back. 

[THE BARON]

2 hours ago, ASH1962 said:

I firmly believe that Sam Darnold has rescued Adam Gase. Not only that, I believe that it will not be very long until Sam is calling his own plays and controlling the offense himself. The difference in what we are seeing pre and post meeting with Gase is remarkable and shows Sam's football IQ is really high.

Getting re-excited for the future. It took a while maybe for them to find the right player combinations and to learn the new systems. F**k draft position, winning is much more fun. Today was awesome, not to have to worry for one second. Priceless LOL.  

I think Sam gave Gase his old USC play book and they made a new offense with it... 

[Larz]

4 minutes ago, Drums said:

I think the same thing happened on the Griffin TD in the Bills game that got called back. 

Eh I missed that one 

its getting to the point that you can’t celebrate a touchdown 

[slimjasi]

10 minutes ago, Larz said:

Yes but they essentially enforced a penalty that wasn’t called by the refs   Is that a new pass interference rule?

because you could call holding on half the rushing touchdowns looking at it in slo mo

It was a brutal call 

brutal 

[Drums]

Just now, Larz said:

Eh I missed that one 

its getting to the point that you can’t celebrate a touchdown 

IIRC, it was called a TD but it ended up being called back for an illegal man down field. The play stood out to me because Griffin was all alone in the end zone and after he caught it, he watched and waited for the ref to put his hands up, then he spiked the ball like Gronk. 

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

24 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

By far the best performance of the season. Every group outplayed the opposition.

The story of our season is fast becoming the depth guys. Stepping up where the season starters failed miserably. It's still early for some to fully judge but at at Linebacker and Corner we're seeing incredible play from guys most hadn't heard of before camp. Williams is getting the best out of them and it doesn't look too far from a top group right now - Which is great given everyone knows the investment required on offence.

The offence is starting to look like the group that I was excited to see before the season. After weeks of literal hell it seems they've turned it around. Gase deserves credit because it was looking as dire as it could get at one point. He's got Darnold playing and our best 3 game offensive streak for what? 10 years? Encouraging. The mad man might just yet make it.

Darnold will have made lots of coaches look great even all is said and done.   But these coaches as a whole are waaay better than what the Jets had a sideline over the last 4 years.  Especially Gregg Williams.

The wildest thing is how strong the D Line looks  that was picked up at the Dollar Store, much better than all the high priced “wastes” that have populated it over the last 10 years.

[David Harris]

2 hours ago, ASH1962 said:

I firmly believe that Sam Darnold has rescued Adam Gase. Not only that, I believe that it will not be very long until Sam is calling his own plays and controlling the offense himself. The difference in what we are seeing pre and post meeting with Gase is remarkable and shows Sam's football IQ is really high.

Getting re-excited for the future. It took a while maybe for them to find the right player combinations and to learn the new systems. F**k draft position, winning is much more fun. Today was awesome, not to have to worry for one second. Priceless LOL.  

I think we should give Adam Gase credit.

i like him. He’s held a 1-7 team together. He’s honest, smart and a hard worker. He’s in charge but cedes Control to Guys who are good; Greg Williams and Sam Darnold. He’s not perfect but I like the vibe he has with Sam.

[ljr]

Loved the pass to Lev down the right sideline to start the f*cking show!!!!!!

Lev in the passing game ... finally !!!!!!!


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[Greenbloodblitz]

 great write-up. I agree with almost everything and always a pleasure thank you.

[ryu79]

39 minutes ago, ljr said:

Loved the pass to Lev down the right sideline to start the f*cking show!!!!!!

Lev in the passing game ... finally !!!!!!!


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Yes. This is the thing. We are excited to add the o line from the draft this year to protect Sam, but man, Lev Bell with a quality oline...you could build a team around him alone on his own. 

With rising Sam and some more weapons...it's really promising.