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What to make of Tannehill?

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It also helps to have Derrick Henry tearing it up the last few games.

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He's not making the big mistake, he's been a caretaker for their O.  He's not doing anything special. Derrick Henry is running wild.

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3 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

Define won

He made the playoffs with Tannehill as primary starter then needed to win last 4 games with Matt Moore and he did.  Incredible coaching job with 2 QBs who aren't very good.

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I think we are damned lucky we started this winning streak when we did.  Losing to stiffs like the Dolphins + Tannehill winning = worse than seeing ghosts. 

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Just now, JetsFanatic said:

Had a winning record. He made the playoffs in his first year, 2016.

Frankly, at this point, I could care less what Tannehill does as long as Darnold continues to play well.

The only season he ever had a winning record in was with Gase.

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18 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

Stud Franchise QB held back by Gase? Or just a guy on a hot streak?

The numbers do not lie.  But judge for yourself (Gase years in Red).

Passing

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       95 93 46-47-0 1940 3065 63.3 21854 133 4.3 79 2.6 1069 80 7.1 6.8 11.3 230.0 88.3   266 2019 5.95 5.69 8.0 17 16 61
6 yrs MIA     88 88 42-46-0 1829 2911 62.8 20434 123 4.2 75 2.6 1001 80 7.0 6.7 11.2 232.2 87.0   248 1885 5.87 5.58 7.9 15 13 61
1 yr TEN     7 5 4-1-0 111 154 72.1 1420 10 6.5 4 2.6 68 65 9.2 9.4 12.8 202.9 111.4   18 134 7.48 7.59 10.5 2 3
2012 24 MIA QB 17 16 16 7-9-0 282 484 58.3 3294 12 2.5 13 2.7 151 80 6.8 6.1 11.7 205.9 76.1 48.4 35 234 5.90 5.23 6.7 1 1 10
2013 25 MIA QB 17 16 16 8-8-0 355 588 60.4 3913 24 4.1 17 2.9 204 67 6.7 6.2 11.0 244.6 81.7 49.3 58 399 5.44 5.00 9.0 4 3 10
2014 26 MIA QB 17 16 16 8-8-0 392 590 66.4 4045 27 4.6 12 2.0 225 50 6.9 6.9 10.3 252.8 92.8 59.3 46 337 5.83 5.83 7.2 2 1 14
2015 27 MIA QB 17 16 16 6-10-0 363 586 61.9 4208 24 4.1 12 2.0 195 54 7.2 7.1 11.6 263.0 88.7 46.3 45 420 6.00 5.91 7.1 2 2 11
2016 28 MIA QB 17 13 13 8-5-0 261 389 67.1 2995 19 4.9 12 3.1 134 74 7.7 7.3 11.5 230.4 93.5 49.4 29 216 6.65 6.27 6.9 3 3 10
2018 30 MIA QB 17 11 11 5-6-0 176 274 64.2 1979 17 6.2 9 3.3 92 75 7.2 7.0 11.2 179.9 92.7 31.0 35 279 5.50 5.29 11.3 3 3 6
2019 31 TEN qb 17 7 5 4-1-0 111 154 72.1 1420 10 6.5 4 2.6 68 65 9.2 9.4 12.8 202.9 111.4   18 134 7.48 7.59 10.5 2 3  

 

By the way, can you just imagine what the Jets Fanbase would say about Sam Darnold if HE had a season with a 66% rate, 4,000+ passing yards and a ~27 to ~12 TD to INT ratio?

 

 

 

 

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Tannehill is playing better without the pressure of a franchise who hasnt had a qb since marino.  No expectations is a nice way to play.

Once he gets a contract as a starting qb, he will tighten up and not play as well.

Its fitzpatrick syndrome.

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2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Tannehill is playing better without the pressure of a franchise who hasnt had a qb since marino.  No expectations is a nice way to play.

Once he gets a contract as a starting qb, he will tighten up and not play as well.

Its fitzpatrick syndrome.

Fitzpatrick played like sh*t in 2016, but he sure didn't look tight. 

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14 minutes ago, Warfish said:

The numbers do not lie.  But judge for yourself (Gase years in Red).

Passing

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       95 93 46-47-0 1940 3065 63.3 21854 133 4.3 79 2.6 1069 80 7.1 6.8 11.3 230.0 88.3   266 2019 5.95 5.69 8.0 17 16 61
6 yrs MIA     88 88 42-46-0 1829 2911 62.8 20434 123 4.2 75 2.6 1001 80 7.0 6.7 11.2 232.2 87.0   248 1885 5.87 5.58 7.9 15 13 61
1 yr TEN     7 5 4-1-0 111 154 72.1 1420 10 6.5 4 2.6 68 65 9.2 9.4 12.8 202.9 111.4   18 134 7.48 7.59 10.5 2 3
2012 24 MIA QB 17 16 16 7-9-0 282 484 58.3 3294 12 2.5 13 2.7 151 80 6.8 6.1 11.7 205.9 76.1 48.4 35 234 5.90 5.23 6.7 1 1 10
2013 25 MIA QB 17 16 16 8-8-0 355 588 60.4 3913 24 4.1 17 2.9 204 67 6.7 6.2 11.0 244.6 81.7 49.3 58 399 5.44 5.00 9.0 4 3 10
2014 26 MIA QB 17 16 16 8-8-0 392 590 66.4 4045 27 4.6 12 2.0 225 50 6.9 6.9 10.3 252.8 92.8 59.3 46 337 5.83 5.83 7.2 2 1 14
2015 27 MIA QB 17 16 16 6-10-0 363 586 61.9 4208 24 4.1 12 2.0 195 54 7.2 7.1 11.6 263.0 88.7 46.3 45 420 6.00 5.91 7.1 2 2 11
2016 28 MIA QB 17 13 13 8-5-0 261 389 67.1 2995 19 4.9 12 3.1 134 74 7.7 7.3 11.5 230.4 93.5 49.4 29 216 6.65 6.27 6.9 3 3 10
2018 30 MIA QB 17 11 11 5-6-0 176 274 64.2 1979 17 6.2 9 3.3 92 75 7.2 7.0 11.2 179.9 92.7 31.0 35 279 5.50 5.29 11.3 3 3 6
2019 31 TEN qb 17 7 5 4-1-0 111 154 72.1 1420 10 6.5 4 2.6 68 65 9.2 9.4 12.8 202.9 111.4   18 134 7.48 7.59 10.5 2 3  

 

By the way, can you just imagine what the Jets Fanbase would say about Sam Darnold if HE had a season with a 66% rate, 4,000+ passing yards and a ~27 to ~12 TD to INT ratio?

 

 

 

 

It depends. Tannehill put up a lot of empty stats in Miami. I always looked at him as somewhat of a check down artist

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18 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

Stud Franchise QB held back by Gase? Or just a guy on a hot streak?

I was lectured on the well established fact that Tannehill was never good and never was talented and Gase was a victim, being saddled with having to play and coach this stiff. That it was all a mirage that Tannehill's numbers dropped as soon as Gase became his coach.

7 minutes ago, SR24 said:

He's finally healthy and is on a good team

That team couldn't score points for dick until Tannehill took over. Mariota had a pair of 3-TD games against Cleveland and Atlanta. A combined zero against everyone else. Neither QB did anything vs Denver (Mariota started / Tannehill mopped up), but since then they put up points every week. They're winning games despite the Titans defense being noticeably worse and giving up way more points now. 

 

Seriously, though, I don't know. I just think it's great that Miami lets him go and he looks like a weapon again. Cherry on top is Gase not looking train wrecky for a few weeks in a row now. 

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10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I was lectured on the well established fact that Tannehill was never good and never was talented and Gase was a victim, being saddled with having to play and coach this stiff. That it was all a mirage that Tannehill's numbers dropped as soon as Gase became his coach.

That team couldn't score points for dick until Tannehill took over. Mariota had a pair of 3-TD games against Cleveland and Atlanta. A combined zero against everyone else. Neither QB did anything vs Denver (Mariota started / Tannehill mopped up), but since then they put up points every week. They're winning games despite the Titans defense being noticeably worse and giving up way more points now. 

 

Seriously, though, I don't know. I just think it's great that Miami lets him go and he looks like a weapon again. Cherry on top is Gase not looking train wrecky for a few weeks in a row now. 

Without tannehill starting:

Derrick Henry(6 games): 113 carries, 416 yds, 3.7 YPC

With Tannehill starting:

Derrick Henry(5 games): 93 carries, 575 yds, 6.2 YPC

 

But yeah it's all the greatness of RyanTannehill who has only had a record above .500 in one season which was coached by Adam Gase

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4 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

Tannehill isn't terrible but he is not consistently good. He has had hot flashes before shame he can't put it all togeather

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He's a poor man's Eli.  He puts up numbers better than what he actually looks like but unlike young Eli Ryan struggles in big moments and big games. 

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3 minutes ago, jgb said:

We shall see.

I wish Miami extended him rather than releasing him.  Tennessee is having success with him right now, they won't long term.  He's always been a tease.

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I’m not a gase supporter, and I also think Tannehill is average.  But, sometimes player and scheme just don’t fit.  And, sometimes two people just don’t work as well together, as they do apart.  It doesn’t have to be one persons fault or the other.  

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TBH it’s a damn shame Miami was smart enough to take basically nothing for him instead of releasing him knowing the Jets would have claimed him, maybe the Jets are 5-6, 6-5 right now instead.

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15 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

I wish Miami extended him rather than releasing him.  Tennessee is having success with him right now, they won't long term.  He's always been a tease.

He gets injured that is true. But he is better than people give him credit for.

 

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2 minutes ago, Butterfield said:

I’m not a gase supporter, and I also think Tannehill is average.  But, sometimes player and scheme just don’t fit.  And, sometimes two people just don’t work as well together, as they do apart.  It doesn’t have to be one persons fault or the other.  

I’m pretty sure Gase and Tannehill were like 10-1 in their last 11 games where Gase coached and Tannehill started.

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8 minutes ago, jgb said:

He gets injured that is true. But he is better than people give him credit for.

 

I disagree with you, I watched him a lot in Miami.  He would put up decent numbers but never really play up to those numbers.  Miami had some decent teams around him most of his time there and he could never get them over the hump.  I'm not sure Miami makes it in '16 if he doesn't get hurt. Remember needing just 1 win in the last 2 weeks of '13?  He led his O to 7 total points in 2 games against 2 dead teams.

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he had some decent years... 27/12   and 24/12   before Gase..  hovers around 50 QBR

which i think is supposed to be the mean....

he's running more now...    

kinda hard to figure...  the new Rich Gannon?

Mariota has always sucked

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3 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

I disagree with you, I watched him a lot in Miami.  He would put up decent numbers but never really play up to those numbers.  Miami had some decent teams around him most of his time there and he could never get them over the hump.  I'm not sure Miami makes it in '16 if he doesn't get hurt. Remember needing just 1 win in the last 2 weeks of '13?  He led his O to 7 total points in 2 games against 2 dead teams.

Disagreement is fine :) 

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