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Jets’ Joe Douglas should lock up these 3 players, now that Ryan Griffin has his long-term deal | Is Jamal Adams one of them?

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3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

What absolute savant wrote something as clear-headed and on-point as this? Please tell me. Who?

Happy Thanksgiving, you filthy animal.

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Jamal Adams will not take another snap after this year until he has a new contract.  Zeke did it this year and jamal will do it next year.

Jets should offer anderson a deal in the 10 million a year category.  He is worth that.  He opens everything up for these other guys.

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7 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Happy Thanksgiving, you filthy animal.

Happy Thanksgiving to you, as well, my friend. 

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Seems early for Adams 

but.....

if he is in your long term plans will another safety set the market?

he plays all over the field and is certainly more valuable than a traditional safety 

seemed like teams tried to get Adams cheap at the deadline. There is interest in him for sure. I would greatly prefer to trade a known quantity for another NFL player, but multiple picks would be ok because you should hit on at least 2 of them. 

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19 minutes ago, Apache 51 said:

OLB Jordan Jenkins: The 25-year-old is in the final year of his rookie deal and has more than earned his keep

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2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I love Jenkins as a player, but I'd rather risk that money on Robbie Anderson because Deep speed>Good citizen LBs.

Love too “break out” by recording 12 sacks in 25 games

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28 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

What absolute savant wrote something as clear-headed and on-point as this? Please tell me. Who?

You have been absolutely on-board for getting a massive package for Adams. 

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2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

You have been absolutely on-board for getting a massive package for Adams. 

Give me a three and a five bb

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6 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Love too “break out” by recording 12 sacks in 25 games

He’d be good as the other LB if we had an actual pass rusher, but I’m not giving the other LB $10 mil per

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45 minutes ago, Apache 51 said:

The last couple months of the NFL season are always ripe with contract extensions.

Jets general manager Joe Douglas got in on the fun Saturday, when he handed tight end Ryan Griffin a new three-year deal to keep him from hitting free agency this spring.

Clearly, Douglas is starting to think through the future and make sure some key pieces of this team are locked up for the years to come.

So which other current players should be on his long-term wish list? Here’s a look at the next three Jets who Douglas should ink to extensions, either before the season ends or soon after it does:

CB Brian Poole: This was one of ex-GM Mike Maccagnan’s better moves this past offseason. Poole has turned into a total steal, considering he’s playing on a one-year, $2 million deal. Poole has been consistently strong in the slot and has been the only positive contributor at cornerback from start to end this season. He is still in his prime at age 27, too. There’s no reason not to keep Poole around. He’s clearly working in Gregg Williams’ defensive system. Don’t fix what isn’t broken – especially considering how many other holes need to be filled on this roster.

OLB Jordan Jenkins: The 25-year-old is in the final year of his rookie deal and has more than earned his keep by breaking out over the past two seasons. Clearly, his work with pass-rush guru Chuck Smith the past few offseasons has paid off; he tallied a career-high seven sacks in 2018 and already has five this season. He’s one of just two Jets with more than two sacks this year. Sure, the Jets still need to find another big-time edge rushing presence, but Jenkins is a valuable piece that could be a great complement to a dominant pass rusher. It’d be ludicrous for a team in desperate search of sacks to let one of their most consistent pass rushers walk.

P Lac Edwards: Yes, the punter. Edwards, like Jenkins, is in the final year of his rookie deal. He ranks ninth in the NFL in gross punting average at 46.4 yards. He ranks 11th in net yards at 41.9. He’s tied for 10th with 20 punts inside the 20-yard line. So, no, Edwards isn’t an elite punter. But he’s consistently in the top half of the league in major categories. Guys like that don’t just grow on trees. It’s not worth trying to replace him and rolling the dice on a newbie. Douglas should stick with what’s working. Brant Boyer clearly likes Edwards, too; the Aussie has been his project for four years. That duo should be kept together.

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S Jamal Adams: Sorry, Jets fans. Sure, Adams is a dynamic playmaker. He’s certainly underpaid relative to his value. But it’s simply not worth handing him $15 million per year (or more) when he’s still under team control for three more seasons – his fourth and final contract year, plus the fifth-year option and potential franchise tag. That’s especially true because the Jets have a ton of roster holes – and desperately need to use their salary-cap space filling those gaps. Giving Adams an extra $12 million or so next season would severely hinder Douglas’ ability to expedite this rebuild. With that in mind, the Jets should at least listen to trade offers this offseason. If they can get a massive package for Adams, it may be worth pulling the trigger, instead of splashing big money on a position that has limited impact at an inopportune time in the roster-building process. That’s not to say the Jets should definitely trade Adams, but it should at least be considered. Perhaps Douglas will ultimately decide Adams is worth keeping and extending. But he should let the process play out and evaluate the market first, before throwing him a huge check.


 


WR Robby Anderson: The Jets should probably just let Anderson walk. He’s capable of big games – as he showed against the Raiders – but is far too inconsistent. Odds are, Anderson is going to want big money this offseason. Knowing how the NFL operates, someone will likely offer him a large payday. The Jets would be silly to match that after watching him up close. He’s a good-not-great receiver. There are plenty of those guys around the league. That money can be better used elsewhere. The caveat? If Anderson’s market winds up being soft and the Jets can get him for an affordable price tag, then it might be worth bringing him back as a No. 2 guy. Either way, there’s no sense in extending Anderson right now, unless he’s willing to take a sizable hometown discount, which is tough to imagine.


----By Matt Stypulkoski 

Totally agree with this.  Good Job.

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7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

He’d be good as the other LB if we had an actual pass rusher, but I’m not giving the other LB $10 mil per

Jenkins has been a great soldier but he's not dynamic enough to break the bank. That would be another NY Jet mistake. Keep building the Oline & force teams to chase us for points & you won't need guys with big contracts to set the edge. The edges will be pinning their ears back & chasing QBs trying to play catch up. We're paying CJ, Avery at 6.5 is pretty decent, Jenkins at 10 million? Not money well spent. Give his salary to Scherff. 

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I agree with most of the points but I still see Chris Johnson walking out of Metlife with that completely undeserved smile on his face saying, "We are glad to make Jamal Adams a Jet for life." 

But Douglas has final say so let's see what happens.

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11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 


Does he though?

 

I can't believe that wasn't a major sticking point in the contract.  The negotiations with JD went on for a long time.  He had to have wanted and gotten full control of the front office and complete roster control.  Douglas had total leverage in those contract talks.  Macc was on borrowed time and the entire league knew it.  And it's not like past coaching record was going to give him extra pull like some coaches do.  Even if they both answer to Smiley Dolt #2.

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I probably wouldn’t pay Poole, either. Slot CBs are like relief pitchers in that they suck much of the time 

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17 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

I can't believe that wasn't a major sticking point in the contract.  The negotiations with JD went on for a long time.  He had to have wanted and gotten full control of the front office and complete roster control.  Douglas had total leverage in those contract talks.  Macc was on borrowed time and the entire league knew it.  And it's not like past coaching record was going to give him extra pull like some coaches do.  Even if they both answer to Smiley Dolt #2.

This would only play out if Douglas had a decent offer on the table for Adams and Chris Johnson refused to sign off on it. I simply can’t imagine Johnson being that invested in Adams to the point where he’d pull rank to block the deal and risk pissing off Douglas. For all the nut-rubbing analysts and PFF do regarding Adams, it feels like nobody actually in the Jets building is all that committed to him. 

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21 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I probably wouldn’t pay Poole, either. Slot CBs are like relief pitchers in that they suck much of the time 

As long as we re-sign our punter and our outstanding long snapper, I'm good.

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3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This would only play out if Douglas had a decent offer on the table for Adams and Chris Johnson refused to sign off on it. I simply can’t imagine Johnson being that invested in Adams to the point where he’d pull rank to block the deal and risk pissing off Douglas. For all the nut-rubbing analysts and PFF do regarding Adams, it feels like nobody actually in the Jets building is all that committed to him. 

That reply was about Douglas' contract stipulations not Adams' future contract status.  I still think that Adans will ultimately end up with the Jets though.

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Just now, pdxgreen said:

 

That reply was about Douglas' contract stipulations not Adams' future contract status.  I still think that Adans will ultimately end up with the Jets though.

My bad. I don’t actually read other people’s posts.

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1 hour ago, Larz said:

Seems early for Adams 

but.....

if he is in your long term plans will another safety set the market?

he plays all over the field and is certainly more valuable than a traditional safety 

seemed like teams tried to get Adams cheap at the deadline. There is interest in him for sure. I would greatly prefer to trade a known quantity for another NFL player, but multiple picks would be ok because you should hit on at least 2 of them. 

Issue is he is our Edge rusher till we get one whether it is an OLB, DE, etc. Till we get one he is the best threat to consistently disrubt the QBs and wreck drives. Jenkins at SSOLB and our DL is not going to be able to able to do it well enough to ruin drives of other teams.

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So the Jets have the ninth rated defense in the NFL with two nobody's at CB and so-so DL and this group doesn't want to re-sign Adams, Jenkins or anyone else.  Yeah, that makes sense.

I go back to thinking there should be drug testing prior to posting.

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3 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

That reply was about Douglas' contract stipulations not Adams' future contract status.  I still think that Adans will ultimately end up with the Jets though.

There's probably a joke in here somewhere but I simply can't find it.

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2 hours ago, Saul Goodman said:

I’m not the biggest Robby Anderson fan, but we can’t just let the guy walk, we have to at least make him a decent offer. 

Transition tag seems perfect for Anderson.

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If Ryan Griffin wasn’t a Jet, how many puritans here would be advocating death penalty because he got drunk and punched out a hotel window?

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10 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Transition tag seems perfect for Anderson.

this had not come up before...    interesting idea...

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most people here were offended that he get ~9-11/per...   transition is almost 15

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3 hours ago, Saul Goodman said:

I’m not the biggest Robby Anderson fan, but we can’t just let the guy walk, we have to at least make him a decent offer. 

Cotchery 2.0.  We MUST convince him his value is X, not 2 times X.  When Cotch left, he lost, we lost, etc.  Robbie in my eyes looks good in green. 

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These 3 and Griffin were my exact list of guys Douglas should start negotiating with now. Jenkins may not be a dominant rusher, but he's by far the best they've got, and can be this era's Pace.

Anderson is definitely worth negotiating with, but will be a question if the price is right.

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