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16 hours ago, Maxman said:

What it is time to pump the break on is people saying that "he sucks" and "he needs to be traded" and he needs to stop "sucking dick off the field". He is a 22 year old QB that is the most talented QB we have seen here in forever. The bar is set low in that regard but if they can't build around Sam and win it all, it isn't going to happen. He isn't the problem, yet a lot of people are saying he is.

Now the exact wording of those quotes was slightly altered to protect the innocent. Wouldn't want to reveal the identity of anyone who is currently on a watch list lol.

Being serious, Sam has a ton to prove. He has to keep getting better. He is doing that, I just don't get people telling him to put another man's penis in his mouth because he has a coach that can't figure out how to run the ball against the worst run defense in the league.

 

Yes but your response was to dbatesman's post.  Nowhere in that post did he suggest Sam was fellating a man.  He was pointing out all the things wrong with the team, but you singled out him saying the QB sucks.  

I don't think Sam sucks either, but I certainly am not sold on him being the franchise QB.  The idea that he might be the "best thing to happen" to this franchise "in 50 years", if true, would be more of a reflection of how bad a franchise the Jets is as opposed to how good Sam is.   

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16 hours ago, Maxman said:

What is the alternative? Joe Flacco in the offseason?

Well, we're 4-8.  If we finish, say, 5-11, we'll end up with a pretty good draft pick.  Trade Jamal, and we'll have more ammo to move up for a QB if we want to do so.  The Cardinals moved on from Josh Rosen in one season, so it's not an unprecedented idea.

I'm not advocating we do so, as I think Sam should get 2020 to show he if he might end up being deserving of a 2nd contract.  But certainly that would be a much better solution than signing a terrible FA QB.  

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2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I find this new world confusing. Can you fellate a woman? 

I'm the wrong person to ask about that.  @CTM

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15 hours ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said:

Pretending that the debate on Darnold is whether or not the number is 100% rather than whether or not it's 0% is the biggest strawman yet.

35 % O-Line, 30 % Darnold, 30 % Gase, 5 % Jamal Adams.  

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3 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Hey this is the Jets, anything is possible. The problem is people want to fire Gase. But it looks like Gase is definitely coming back. So I think QB should be off the table for this offseason. Otherwise you are letting Gase impact two young QBs. Gase gets Darnold and if that doesn't work, Gase gets fired in 2021.

Days like yesterday put me firmly in the trade Jamal camp. Get a 1st rounder back for him and you can have 3 impact olineman here next year, while still addressing other needs.

Yeah, I'm operating under the assumption that Gase will be back next season as well.  Probably bad news there but Douglas has no authority to fire Gase even if he wants to, and Chris Johnson doesn't have the stones to fire Gase and search for a new HC all over again (or give the authority to Douglas to hire the HC).  He's too busy hanging out on his yacht with Russian hookers at the moment.  

Thus, the Gase/Darnold duo gets another season.  If it fails we bring in a new HC and let him and Douglas decide whether we need a new QB.  

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1 minute ago, section314 said:

You better get way more back for him than a 1st, Max. That entire team was lost yesterday because he was out there on guts, and that's all. If anything, yesterday increased his value by a bunch.

Agreed with the bold, but only because the teams that will look to acquire Adams will all likely be teams with LATE first rounders.  

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