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DI Quinnen Williams, New York Jets

This may be the most surprising rookie performance of the 2019 season. After recording the highest single-season grade of any defensive player we have graded in the PFF College era at 96.0, Quinnen Williams was getting a lot of attention and was even being considered by some to be a better prospect than the second overall pick Nick Bosa. Williams ended up going third overall to the New York Jets and everyone thought they got the safest pick in the Draft. Thus far in 2019, that’s not even remotely close to being the case.

Williams has produced an overall grade of 67.4, ranking 46th among 76 interior defensive linemen. He has made a few plays in run defense and made his way to the 37th best run-defense grade at 70.5. However, Williams’ run-defense isn’t the issue – it’s his pass-rushing. Williams drops all the way down to 60th in PFF pass-rush grade at 57.2, has produced pressure at an astronomically low rate of 4.7% and has won on just 7.3% of his reps. 

Injury had gotten to Williams early on, but he’s been healthy as of late and has still made little to no impact plays. There’s more optimism with Williams than any other rookie in PFF’s stock down report, but his play thus far is certainly cause for concern.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-stock-up-stock-down-nfl-rookies-week-13-2019

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PFF is trash. Maybe QW is too, I don't know. PFF doesn't know either though.

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Blew it by not trading him, they will never get an offer like the one they supposidley got.

Sunk cost now.  He will end up being another leo, okay player always 'almost' good.

Awful draft pick but then again moron chris johnson gave mac one last off season to screw the team.

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He will only get much better in the offseason.  Look at the difference in Nathan Shepherd.

But I don’t know if he ever even makes the Pro Bowl.   This was a terrible draft pick.  

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13 minutes ago, varjet said:

He will only get much better in the offseason.  Look at the difference in Nathan Shepherd.

But I don’t know if he ever even makes the Pro Bowl.   This was a terrible draft pick.  

I’m not looking to argue, but what does Shepherd have to do with Q? All of a sudden all our guys improve in their 2nd year? What happened to Leo then?

It’s not like Shepherd is some all pro either. He’s barely a jag, and just reached that level.You guys go overboard every time someone here has a decent game. Last week people were talking about Blessaun Austin like he was Deion.

This is a horrible team. You need a lot of horrible players to be horrible. At this point QW might be another...

 

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Q has been a disappointment to say the least , that being said Football is the hardest of the sports to judge based on stats. There are just WAY to many variables as compared to say baseball or even basketball. Not that I think Q has been good, just sayin you don’t need PFF to tell you he’s been bad 

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Well, whatever the Bengals OL decided to do to neutralize him? It worked. He was not at all disruptive like he was last week.

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17 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

Q has been a disappointment to say the least , that being said Football is the hardest of the sports to judge based on stats. There are just WAY to many variables as compared to say baseball or even basketball. Not that I think Q has been good, just sayin you don’t need PFF to tell you he’s been bad 

The comparable Coffee Boy tried to sell was Aaron Donald, and he isn't close to that. Don't like the fact he was mostly a good player on a  very Bama good defense. He wasn't the gamebreaker they sold him as. And what I really don't like is while DTs are big guys, he clearly is not well-conditioned. They had 3-4 months to get him in the weight room, and looks like that didn't really happen. Whether he's lazy or a lack of direction, same difference. We will be in the same boat we just got out of with Leo when his rookie deal gets close to it's end. 

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14 minutes ago, NYJ1 said:

Well, whatever the Bengals OL decided to do to neutralize him? It worked. He was not at all disruptive like he was last week.

He was often singled by the center, a guy who's coming out of his crouch every down. There wasn't a double team all day that I saw. 

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Very early still, but it does look bad right now, especially when Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, and Ed Oliver are all doing great. Only the Jets....

Then again, with our luck, even if they drafted one of those players, they'd probably be looking bad here and QW would be doing well on other team.

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As a pass rusher, he rarely provides any kind of push at the line. He gets stood up a lot of the time and also gets knocked off his feet quite a bit. When you watch him on passing plays, a lot of the time he’s moving laterally across the line of scrimmage looking for a gap to run through instead of attacking. I don’t see him turning into anything more than a Snacks Harrison II. Hope I’m wrong. 

I think part of the problem is a lack of strength. Note that his agent pulled him out of the bench press at the combine because of a “finger injury.”

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Tried to keep an eye on him today. He reminded me of Dewayne Robertson.  I don't see the quick feet or burst some were talking about here. Kinda looked like he was running in mud.

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2 hours ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:
DI Quinnen Williams, New York Jets

This may be the most surprising rookie performance of the 2019 season. After recording the highest single-season grade of any defensive player we have graded in the PFF College era at 96.0, Quinnen Williams was getting a lot of attention and was even being considered by some to be a better prospect than the second overall pick Nick Bosa. Williams ended up going third overall to the New York Jets and everyone thought they got the safest pick in the Draft. Thus far in 2019, that’s not even remotely close to being the case.

Williams has produced an overall grade of 67.4, ranking 46th among 76 interior defensive linemen. He has made a few plays in run defense and made his way to the 37th best run-defense grade at 70.5. However, Williams’ run-defense isn’t the issue – it’s his pass-rushing. Williams drops all the way down to 60th in PFF pass-rush grade at 57.2, has produced pressure at an astronomically low rate of 4.7% and has won on just 7.3% of his reps. 

Injury had gotten to Williams early on, but he’s been healthy as of late and has still made little to no impact plays. There’s more optimism with Williams than any other rookie in PFF’s stock down report, but his play thus far is certainly cause for concern.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-stock-up-stock-down-nfl-rookies-week-13-2019

 

Leo was a huge bust. But at least serviceable. Not that you’d accept that with a guy taken with the 6th puck. But Leo, compared to QW, is like Randy White. QW has just been awful. Another colossal bust by Macc. Trade him now and get what you can. 

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1 hour ago, Bugg said:

The comparable Coffee Boy tried to sell was Aaron Donald, and he isn't close to that. Don't like the fact he was mostly a good player on a  very Bama good defense. He wasn't the gamebreaker they sold him as. And what I really don't like is while DTs are big guys, he clearly is not well-conditioned. They had 3-4 months to get him in the weight room, and looks like that didn't really happen. Whether he's lazy or a lack of direction, same difference. We will be in the same boat we just got out of with Leo when his rookie deal gets close to it's end. 

Gee something to look forward to.

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Blew it by not trading him, they will never get an offer like the one they supposidley got.

Sunk cost now.  He will end up being another leo, okay player always 'almost' good.

Awful draft pick but then again moron chris johnson gave mac one last off season to screw the team.

What offer????

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He’s easily handled on most plays. With little strength, agility, quickness or pass rushing moves, he’s got a low floor (rotational player) and low ceiling (maybe Leonard Williams caliber). 

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Will Quinnen ever be worth his draft slot? Probably not...it was a terrible pick from jump.

I do think he will have a solid career. It’s obvious the kid needs a year in the weight room.

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It will take a monumental turnaround to get this pick worth it. He’s so young and was thought so highly of that I’m praying he somehow does but he looks slow and soft with almost no flashes.

i am forever 💯 against everybody drafting a DL in the first two rounds ever again. I don’t care who it is.

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20 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

What offer????

"It was no secret that the New York Jets were fielding calls and open for business ahead of the NFL's trade deadline Tuesday. But one player they weren't willing to deal was 2019 first-round defensive tackle Quinnen Williams despite receiving serious interest from a mystery team.

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter

"At least one team kept coming at the Jets, refusing to take no for an answer and offering a blockbuster package of picks that it thought New York could not turn down, according to sources. But no matter how many times that team and others called, New York refused to budge on Williams.""

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

"It was no secret that the New York Jets were fielding calls and open for business ahead of the NFL's trade deadline Tuesday. But one player they weren't willing to deal was 2019 first-round defensive tackle Quinnen Williams despite receiving serious interest from a mystery team.

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter

"At least one team kept coming at the Jets, refusing to take no for an answer and offering a blockbuster package of picks that it thought New York could not turn down, according to sources. But no matter how many times that team and others called, New York refused to budge on Williams.""

Not that I'm giving up on QW this early, but if that's actually true, how in the world do you turn that down??

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