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1 hour ago, RonaldJet said:

I think this Nagy offense is perfect for Darnold. 

Why, because it doesn’t score points?

 

(sorry, couldn’t resist!) 😜

 

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3 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

Slightly better thank ok? Dak is a 2X pro bowler and a top 10 qb in this league weather you think so or not. Probably right around the 7-10 range.

This year Dak ranks 1st in passing yards, 3rd highest qbr, 3rd in TDS thrown, and 11th in completion percentage.  (Darnold is 24th or worse in all those categories)

So, yes I hope darnold can eventually put up numbers like Dak. Because right now statistically darnold doesnt even come close.

Yeah but forget numbers, you gotta use your eyes, lol.

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8 hours ago, HessStation said:

There isn’t one player on the Jets who would start for Dallas on offense 

Including Sam.

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14 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

And Prescott turned down $30Mill...I wouldn’t pay him $3...because he’ll NEVER win a SB..and that’s what this is all about, right?

Douglas puts some professional players around Darnold, especially OL...Darnold is going to want $100Mill a year in 3 years, if Prescott insanely thinks he’s worth 40.  If Darnold was QBing the Cowboys THIS year, with that stacked team, I think at worst they are 10-3 right now.

🤔

insert 27th ranked QB over the last two years, add water, stir well. Bake at 400* for 30 minutes and, presto! The Cowboys are 10-3.

No sense letting facts ruin a good story. Better to stick with hopes and dreams, we can always have a happy ending that way.

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54 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Just checking in to see if Dak is an MVP candidate?

No way he beats out Sam or Baker this year.

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1 minute ago, johnnysd said:

You know in your heart that wherever you are getting that ranking it means exceedingly little and has no real relation to what Darnold is or isn't at this point. He is a work in progress.

No analytic really is very good at determining how good a QB is. As an example, there are QBs that have completely upside down ratings if you lool at Total QBR and compare it to DOVA or another advanced statistic.

I will say this. When I watch Prescott I see nothing elite about him at all. I see another in the list of compiler QBs that will have good statistics but when it really comes down to being "the guy" falls short over and over and over again. These QBs do well against really week teams WHEN surrounded by a lot of talent, but completely fail against good opponents. As last night showed, oftentimes these QBs will wind up getting decent stats from these games as they compile huge numbers against soft zones when the game is out of reach.

Prescott is that guy. He has had his team completely out of many games this year including Jets, Green Bay, last night, and several others and then just gets a lot of stats in second half. Team loses but it appears it wasnt his fault.

There is nothing exceptional about Prescott. The are probably at least 20 QBs, maybe more that would be as effective or better than Dak if they played on the Dallas team. That is what my eyes see.

FWIW, there are signs that Darnold might be one of these guys as well, especially looking back and seeing that Oakland and Dallas were not really quality wins either. But I see way more talent in Sam than Prescott and I am hoping that once he has a solid team around him he will really take off.

Garbage time stats are really a scourge in the perception of players in the NFL.

An interesting stat would be stats weighted by what the game situation was. Is it a close game, or just silly time stat padding time. I suspect Dak would plummet in his perceived value.

I think Prescott is a nice story. What a 4th round pick? He and his team are struggling right now, but the worst thing anyone can say about him in his career is he’s been above average. I’m not defending him here, I’m criticizing  those who are saying he’s terrible and Darnold would be 10-3 with that team.

The guys here who claim Darnold is better then him right now are talking out of their you know what.

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Just now, Beerfish said:

Well until darnold gets an oline and a legit #1 wr we can't judge between the two, we just don;t know.

That’s the company line here, my friend.

What that means, I guess is two years in with a guy we gave up a 6th pick in the 1st round plus 3 2nd round picks to move up 3 spots for...

, we won’t know anything about him until and/or if we surround him with things some teams never get, and best case would take us years to acquire?

Thats depressing.

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11 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

Neither Sam nor Baker had anything to do with the stupidity of calling Dak an MVP candidate, but at least there’s this:

Then there’s what you just did. Take a quote that was obviously an attempt to get a chuckle out of you, then just to prove to me you have no sense of humor, go look up an old post that in your mind makes you feel smug and content. I guess you feel better now.

Glad that worked out so well for you.

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7 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

No you are wrong, 'my friend'.  The discussion here has been about Dak vs Darnold.

Dak has 3 pro bowlers and one of the best lines in the league and a legit #1 wr.

The jets have one of the worst olines in the league and nothing resembling a #1 wr.

If you are going to twist the narrative like you just have you must be really distressed at Baker mayfield and what he has done this year considerimng he has vastly better talent around him.

Jeez, no need to put my friend in quotes. I actually do like and enjoy talking with you, I meant it when I said it to you.. I guess I should also apologize for throwing Baker’s name into that reply to the other guy. It obviously came off the wrong way.

Him and I go back and forth about him, and I only threw his name in there to show I wasn’t talking exclusively about Sam in my reply to his cute little “I’m here to see if Dak is still an MVP candidate” remark.

As for what Dak has around him, yeah, no comparison. But by the same token, there is not a single thing Sam has done in his two years here that should have made anyone in this thread say he is better then Prescott, or would be with that talent around him. Sorry.

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33 minutes ago, Losmeister said:

Dallas got way more value out of that pick than the Jets have gotten out of Sam who
they sold the farm for.

It’s so obvious they did, to everyone except the “wait until we have 10 all pros surrounding Sam” bunch.

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47 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

yikes. 

That seems to sum up our reactions to each other’s posts.

Perhaps it’s time to simply end the conversations.

How about we just agree not to respond to each other’s posts?

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