Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 So the Jets are the lowest in rushing defense peer attempt at 3.0 yards/A. The next lowest is 3.4yards/A. They have allowed the second lowest number of yards total rushing. Why is this? What players are affecting this stat? And I know, being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. Spare me that speech. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. 2 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. I never had an 8 track player, and really wanted one. My dad, in the mid 70's saw the future with cassette tapes and would not support an 8-track purchase. Would you like any Black Sabbath cassettes? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. If the Ravens are the wall you need to break through to get to the Superbowl for the next 5-10 years, is this still true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Greg williams has done a great job. They seem to always be ready for what’s coming. Very solid fundamentals with tackling and gaps. The entire Dline is playing well and every linebacker that has to step up due to injury knows what to do kind of performance that gets coaches head coaching interviews 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Well, I guess it's the one benefit that comes with investing far more assets into DT than any other position on the entire team. In the end, it comes down to the matter that the Jets' entire front 7 is strong against run, and weak against the pass (both in coverage, and pass rush). It's also further aided by the rather constant 8th man in the box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: If the Ravens are the wall you need to break through to get to the Superbowl for the next 5-10 years, is this still true? I feel like having a 1,000 yard QB skews rushing stats. I’d be surprised if Lamar doesn’t get 80+ against us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: If the Ravens are the wall you need to break through to get to the Superbowl for the next 5-10 years, is this still true? I am not sure that rush defense against the tradiotional rush, and against a running qb equate similarly. Guess we will find out Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Well, I guess it's the one benefit that comes with investing far more assets into DT than any other position on the entire team. In the end, it comes down to the matter that the Jets' entire front 7 is strong against run, and weak against the pass (both in coverage, and pass rush). It's also further aided by the rather constant 8th man in the box. Back to my original question, in part. What players have been stand outs here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I feel like having a 1,000 yard QB skews rushing stats. I’d be surprised if Lamar doesn’t get 80+ against us That team is built on running the ball first. He may rush for 80+ on us, especially if Prez Mal is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: That team is built on running the ball first. He may rush for 80+ on us, especially if Prez Mal is out. If Pres Mal is out, Gregg Williams will have to resort to only using 10 players in the box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Back to my original question, in part. What players have been stand outs here. Hard to attribute stopping the run to one player since it is a team effort but I think looking at the snap count could help. Adams/Maye lead the way. Kyle Philips has played the most snaps on the DL. And believe it or not, Q. Will is next. Followed by McClendon, Anderson and Fatuski. Hewitt has played the most at LB. Cashman next. Followed by Jenkins and Burgess. It also helps that Poole/Roberts are willing tacklers. So it's a group effort but I think you're probably looking at those guys with the most snap counts; Adams, Maye, Phillips, McClendon, Hewitt, Jenkins, etc. sprinkle in some corner help. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Well, I guess it's the one benefit that comes with investing far more assets into DT than any other position on the entire team. In the end, it comes down to the matter that the Jets' entire front 7 is strong against run, and weak against the pass (both in coverage, and pass rush). It's also further aided by the rather constant 8th man in the box. Actually I think we got better after cutting those guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Back to my original question, in part. What players have been stand outs here. Mclendon, Fatukasi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player.Hey... check out the top playoff teams and let me know what they do best... thanksSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, NYallDay said: Hey... check out the top playoff teams and let me know what they do best... thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s because playoff teams score a lot of points and, thus, force their opponents to pass in order to keep pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It’s because playoff teams score a lot of points and, thus, force their opponents to pass in order to keep pace. Except, 6 of the teams (including the Jets) that are top 10 in rushing yards allowed, have winning record. In contrast, 5 of the teams that are in top 10 in passing yards allowed, have winning records. So your summation does not hold water on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The Jets have been a good run D ever since Rex got here. The culture has maintained for the most part. Too bad this rarely translates to wins like it used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Except, 6 of the teams (including the Jets) that are top 10 in rushing yards allowed, have winning record. In contrast, 5 of the teams that are in top 10 in passing yards allowed, have winning records. So your summation does not hold water on its own. Huh? The impressive thing isn't the rushing yards allowed. The impressive thing is ypa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. Yes but with Bachman Turner Overdrive's "Not Fragile" stuck in the drive. Let it roll, down the highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Huh? Based on teams records, there is not one form of defensive rankings that seems to promote one aspect of defensive prowess over another. Games can be won in many manners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I wish the Jets could be closer to the top of the games won category. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 We invest 100 billion dollars in lbs who are hurt from game one and invest high picks in DTs who are hurt and under achieve and yet with jags on the dline and at ilb we still have a good run defense. Proof that you do not put big assets into ilb and DTs who cannot rush the passer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Being great against the rush in 2019 is like having an 8-track player. Maybe... then again the 49ers and Ravens are the two best teams in the NFL and everything starts and ends with running the football for them. Same with Seattle and Rams last year... that said Lamar will run for 150+ against us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Having a great run defense in 2019 is like being the world's greatest VCR repairman in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, nico002 said: Maybe... then again the 49ers and Ravens are the two best teams in the NFL and everything starts and ends with running the football for them. Same with Seattle and Rams last year... that said Lamar will run for 150+ against us Those teams score points like @joewilly12 streams k-pop videos on YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Our run defense has always been good. I remember hoping that the other team had a third and one, because it meant they may try to run the ball for the first down, and we had a better chance at stopping them than if they passed. So third and one was much better for us than third and 7. And teams ALWAYS made the first down passing on third down against us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Having a great run defense in 2019 is like being the world's greatest VCR repairman in 2019. As I have shown earlier, half the teams in the top 10 run defense, have winning records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, roscoeword said: Our run defense has always been good. And that's worked out swell for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: As I have shown earlier, half the teams in the top 10 run defense, have winning records. oh wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: I feel like having a 1,000 yard QB skews rushing stats. I’d be surprised if Lamar doesn’t get 80+ against us This game scares the sh*t out of me regarding Lamars running. Uh, just look how easy it was for Fitz to get the edge & imagine Fitz with flames ? shooting out of his azz propelling him. That's how Lamar Jackson will look Thursday Night. I know fans are not supposed to wish injury on anyone but running QBs are a different story. I was screaming for someone to take Fitz head off yesterday! Not only did he run, he used the fear defenders have of creaming the QB by cutting inside & splitting 2 defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Jetster said: imagine Fitz with flames ? shooting out of his azz cc: @joewilly12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetster said: imagine Fitz with flames ? shooting out of his azz 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: cc: @joewilly12 @T0mShane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: Well, I guess it's the one benefit that comes with investing far more assets into DT than any other position on the entire team. In the end, it comes down to the matter that the Jets' entire front 7 is strong against run, and weak against the pass (both in coverage, and pass rush). It's also further aided by the rather constant 8th man in the box. except the only guy remaining from the 1st round dline pick mania is qwill. the rest of the guys are from lower rounds or free agents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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