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***OFFICIAL JETS VS RAVENS GAME THREAD***

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1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said:

Some of this is why the Darnold arguments happen.  I'm a fan of his, but that was a horrifically awful throw, so can we stop with the endless list of excuses as to why we can pretend it wasn't his fault?  He was having a good game before that, but that was embarrassing.  He stared down his receiver the entire time, and then threw it nowhere close.  Even if he thought Brown was going to cut inside, the throw still would have been short and into double coverage.  The absolute best that could have come out of that play was, if Darnold were lucky, Brown breaking up the INT.

Nobody said it wasn’t a bad decision...

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1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said:

Some of this is why the Darnold arguments happen.  I'm a fan of his, but that was a horrifically awful throw, so can we stop with the endless list of excuses as to why we can pretend it wasn't his fault?  He was having a good game before that, but that was embarrassing.  He stared down his receiver the entire time, and then threw it nowhere close.  Even if he thought Brown was going to cut inside, the throw still would have been short and into double coverage.

Was the throw down the sideline to Jeff Smith bad?  The uneducated fan would say the ball was thrown too far ahead of the WR.  The guy who knows football knows that Smith slowed down instead of running the route at speed, otherwise that is a BIG completion.

Now, did the backup to the backup TE run the correct route when he turned outside instead of inside where Darnold threw the ball?  Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.  But that "horrific throw" as you called it is perfect if the TE had turned the other way.  These are timing patterns, that ball is thrown BEFORE the TE makes his break.

I'd like to know who is at fault for these INTs and incompletions.  The fact of the matter is that TV viewers only think it's the WR/TEs fault if they see a ball hit him in the hands and drop it.  Anything that is intercepted or incomplete, overthrown, etc. they assume is a bad throw and not a route that was run incorrectly, a break made too early or late, or a pattern run at the wrong speed.

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5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

One thing that might be going unnoticed.....I think Gase is coaching one of his best games of the year.  He has schemed routes that are getting guys open all over the place and on 3rd downs.  He schemed Crowder so wide open that Crowder forgot to look the ball into his hands.  He had that Practice Squad Smith guy open down the sideline.  He's getting Vincent Smith a little involved.  Some of the rushing plays are now working with Bell.

Aside from the missed FG and two "could have been" TDs the offense is actually playing very well.

Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!  Missed opportunities!

Agreed...except for the 4th and 1 call...despite how close Sam made it.

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4 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

Quick question. 

Is Trevor Wesco still alive?

They play him at FB but not much else.

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Just now, jetstream23 said:

Was the throw down the sideline to Jeff Smith bad?  The uneducated fan would say the ball was thrown too far ahead of the WR.  The guy who knows football knows that Smith slowed down instead of running the route at speed, otherwise that is a BIG completion.

Now, did the backup to the backup TE run the correct route when he turned outside instead of inside where Darnold threw the ball?  Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.  But that "horrific throw" as you called it is perfect if the TE had turned the other way.  These are timing patterns, that ball is thrown BEFORE the TE makes his break.

I'd like to know who is at fault for these INTs and incompletions.  The fact of the matter is that TV viewers only think it's the WR/TEs fault if they see a ball hit him in the hands and drop it.  Anything that is intercepted or incomplete, overthrown, etc. they assume is a bad throw and not a route that was run incorrectly, a break made too early or late, or a pattern run at the wrong speed.

At best, it was a throw into double coverage on a guy he stared down.  There is no excuse for that.

The entire argument is making a baseless assumption that he's not responsible, solely to fit an agenda.  The Jeff Smith situation has evidence to support it.  The Brown situation is nothing more than excuses for the guy that is more liked.

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7 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

Quick question. 

Is Trevor Wesco still alive?

Remember how excited this board was about that pick 

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