CrazyCarl40 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Massively overrated by this board but there’s not one reason to think he won’t be back. Gase will be back and he’s much worse. So, who cares? Ownership is fine with 5-11 seasons because they still make gobs of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Greg Williams has said that this was his most enjoyable season, all the no names who have played well in their "next man up" roles. They were talking about it on the TV broadcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Massively overrated by this board but there’s not one reason to think he won’t be back. Gase will be back and he’s much worse. So, who cares? Ownership is fine with 5-11 seasons because they still make gobs of money. You watched this group of no names fill in and be a top 5 defense and say he's overrated? Guess you were expecting more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 18 hours ago, Jet Nut said: You watched this group of no names fill in and be a top 5 defense and say he's overrated? Guess you were expecting more. Top 5 defense that got eviscerated by the Bengals? Besides being decent against the run, the defense is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Top 5 defense that got eviscerated by the Bengals? Besides being decent against the run, the defense is not good. 2nd vs Run, 24th v pass 13th overall near the middle of the second tier top 8 9-16 17-24 bottom 8 https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I could see Gregg getting a few HC interviews. He’s done a masterful job as DC for the Jets. Then he probably gets a few head turns with the mess that is Cleveland. They excelled with him as interim HC last year. Im expecting and hoping he stays as DC. If Gase underperforms next year, promote Gregg to HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Top 5 defense that got eviscerated by the Bengals? Besides being decent against the run, the defense is not good. A good Offense and ST's is vital to have a good D. An elite D is just that, elite. Jets are ok given the circumstances. Would love to see what a semi healthy, couple of years, helped out by the 2 other phases, D would do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Top 5 defense that got eviscerated by the Bengals? Besides being decent against the run, the defense is not good. Great, wtf does one game have to do with a seaaon? Or how many players were out or injured. Admit it, hes been a bright spot. Anyone who thinks GW hasn't done a good job and needs to deny credit, well, I'll leave it there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Williams will be back. Gase gives him space and sings his praises constantly. There is zero reason for him to leave. And look no further to the way Williams handled himself during Brown week to know why no team is going to offer him a HC job. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/18/2019 at 8:06 PM, JTJet said: Yes. He has over performed with a decimated unit and he is under contract for 2 more years. I hope the Jets extend GW's contract and give him a large raise to keep him from leaving for a HC job. This is an ideal position for GW, he gets to concentrate on the D and not have to put up with the BS and constants attacks by the predatory NY, national press and talking heads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: I hope the Jets extend GW's contract and give him a large raise to keep him from leaving for a HC job. This is an ideal position for GW, he gets to concentrate on the D and not have to put up with the BS and constants attacks by the predatory NY, national press and talking heads. I do feel like he has found a home, so to speak. He might not want to leave at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 11:50 AM, Philc1 said: The way you guys gloat about Gase you would think we were 10-6 this year There isn't another HC, past or present, that could have taken this crapshow of a team to a 10-6 record. At least wait until half way through next season before you condemn Gase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Big_Slick said: There isn't another HC, past or present, that could have taken this crapshow of a team to a 10-6 record. At least wait until half way through next season before you condemn Gase. And somehow, the becomes gloating about Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Why would GW leave? Nobody is going to offer him a HC job. His best chance is to stick around here for another year and wait til Gase gets fired mid season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 8:50 PM, Big_Slick said: There isn't another HC, past or present, that could have taken this crapshow of a team to a 10-6 record. At least wait until half way through next season before you condemn Gase. You guys are a literal broken record thus the same nonsense bs you said to defend Bowles and Macagnan for year’s “we need at least 5 years to do the true rebuild because of Idzik” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 21 hours ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Why would GW leave? Nobody is going to offer him a HC job. His best chance is to stick around here for another year and wait til Gase gets fired mid season. He’s leaving because Gase is going to have him fired This franchise is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Saying that Gase could stab Williams in the back is not a conspiracy theory because he’s done this before. We don’t really know why Williams was named DC. Was it forced upon Gase by Macc or was he ok with it. it was obviously a good call. But Williams doesn’t need Gase to have a job in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Saying that Gase could stab Williams in the back is not a conspiracy theory because he’s done this before. We don’t really know why Williams was named DC. Was it forced upon Gase by Macc or was he ok with it, it was obviously a good call. But Williams doesn’t need Gase to have a job in the NFL. Williams was forced upon Gase by Mac Enjoy 2 more weeks of Williams because he’s a goner unless Woody and Chrissy miraculously do the intellegent thing and fire Gase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I’ve seen stranger things than firing a head coach who doesn’t get along with a highly rated coordinator and naming the coordinator head coach. I don’t think it’s likely to happen because it would make Chris look like an idiot for listening to Gase in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Williams was forced upon Gase by Mac Enjoy 2 more weeks of Williams because he’s a goner unless Woody and Chrissy miraculously do the intellegent thing and fire Gase You might want to find another team to root for because the johnsons aren’t selling the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Williams was forced upon Gase by Mac I don't believe that fake news for a second, but even if it were it makes no difference. Clearly, the Jets defensive players love the man and play their asses off for him. They are getting some major success completely illogically due to the deep injuries. The players love him, he's not going anywhere, at least not the Jets letting him go- he's surely a threat to get one of the HC jobs, though unlikely as he's not a 30-something OC. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 hours ago, SAR I said: he's surely a threat to get one of the HC jobs, though unlikely as he's not a 30-something OC. SAR I 22-34 record. according to jetnation that makes him a proven loser who should never hc in the nfl again. adam gase is 28-34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 4:32 PM, Jet Nut said: Great, wtf does one game have to do with a seaaon? Or how many players were out or injured. Admit it, hes been a bright spot. Anyone who thinks GW hasn't done a good job and needs to deny credit, well, I'll leave it there The defense with loads of money thrown at it and high picks has been mediocre. Way to really strive for greatness! There is no bright spots for another losing season. If you’re willing to continue to slob the knob of this loser franchise, well, I’ll leave it there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/18/2019 at 8:02 PM, nico002 said: To me this is the biggest coaching unknown facing the team. Ive read rumors of Gase and Williams having an icy relationship. Where have you heard these rumors? Williams will be back unless he is offered a HC spot. He's under contract and isn't going to retire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Yes we are switching to 4-3 next year aftee the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 hours ago, batman10023 said: You might want to find another team to root for because the johnsons aren’t selling the team. I root for the worst ownership in both the nba and nfl - I don’t care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, SAR I said: I don't believe that fake news for a second, but even if it were it makes no difference. Clearly, the Jets defensive players love the man and play their asses off for him. They are getting some major success completely illogically due to the deep injuries. The players love him, he's not going anywhere, at least not the Jets letting him go- he's surely a threat to get one of the HC jobs, though unlikely as he's not a 30-something OC. SAR I So are we still making the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Losmeister said: 22-34 record. according to jetnation that makes him a proven loser who should never hc in the nfl again. adam gase is 28-34 Williams is a way better DC than Gase is an OC/HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Losmeister said: 22-34 record. according to jetnation that makes him a proven loser who should never hc in the nfl again. adam gase is 28-34 This is not really fair to GW because he was asked to HC Buffalo before it was fixed. The NFL is a big Corporate operation. GW is not only older and defense, but I think it is hard with his history to make him a HC. I don’t think GW was “forced” on Gase. Gase wanted the job and Mac said here is your DC. Gase likely did not have a better idea and smartly went with it. What happens with GW this off season will tell us a lot about the state of the Jets. He is the perfect potential interim for next year that allows CJ to give Gase another chance As we saw, Bowles never had a potential interim on his staff It is a threat to the HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: The defense with loads of money thrown at it and high picks has been mediocre. Way to really strive for greatness! There is no bright spots for another losing season. If you’re willing to continue to slob the knob of this loser franchise, well, I’ll leave it there. And all the money spent by Macc on players, CJ & TJ, Avery, they're not playing. So there's the reason to credit the job by GW. Not getting how anyone who follows this team doesn't get that. Don't tell me what I'm happy with or whatever point you're trying to make by giving me shlt for recognizing the simple fact that with all the inuries to the D, GW has done a great job. The D and the job hes done isn't the reason to complain. Sorry you cant see that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: I root for the worst ownership in both the nba and nfl - I don’t care You don’t seem to rooting for the jets. many people I think enjoy being sad about the jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Philc1 said: You guys are a literal broken record thus the same nonsense bs you said to defend Bowles and Macagnan for year’s “we need at least 5 years to do the true rebuild because of Idzik” Personally - I've never defended Bowles, Herm, Idzik or Macc for five years. Hell - I've never defended these rookie *holes after giving them a fair chance. There's no comparison between those guys and Gase and GW in their FIRST season taking over the crapshow of a team those other morons left the Jets with a talent devoid roster. Have half a brain and judge these guys after they a chance. No where have I supported keeping losers for five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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