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2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

Or we could have just kept Jason Myers since he was already a Jet. That move to eventually find Ficken later in the season probably cost this team a win against Buffalo week 1. Ficken is hitting 70% of his kicks, Meyers 80% this season.

Macc sucks at everything football. 

Myers isn’t having a great season either.  Not signing him wasn’t the mistake.  Not bringing another kicker in to compete with a mediocre Costanzo was the mistake

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4 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

Myers isn’t having a great season either.  Not signing him wasn’t the mistake.  Not bringing another kicker in to compete with a mediocre Costanzo was the mistake

Not bringing back a guy who just made the probowl for you knowing that you're most likely going to have problems scoring points to begin with is the problem. And Myers is having a better season than any Kicker that was on the Jets this year and has connected on a whopping 10% more of his FG's than Ficken. 

Folks can continue to excuse that away, but the Jets would have most likely beaten the Bills week 1 if our FG situation, which didnt have to even be a situation, would have simply remained the same. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Not bringing back a guy who just made the probowl for you knowing that you're most likely going to have problems scoring points to begin with is the problem. And Myers is having a better season than any Kicker that was on the Jets this year and has connected on a whopping 10% more of his FG's than Ficken. 

Folks can continue to excuse that away, but the Jets would have most likely beaten the Bills week 1 if our FG situation, which didnt have to even be a situation, would have simply remained the same. 

 

Myers had a career year last year and was able to parlay that into a rich multi year contract.   By that logic you’d have also kept Costanzo after his career year with us, but he went to Tampa and sh*t the bed.  I’m not arguing that we most likely win game 1 with Myers but at what cost?

You probably would also have been in favor of keeping last years kick returner Reed at an inflated salary when his replacement  Berrios is leading the league in punt returns.

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2 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

Myers had a career year last year.

Exactly, which is why you keep him. 

And based on all of the crap we had around here this season, it seems like keeping him was clearly the right move. 

Meyers is has hit on 80% of his FG's this season, not counting for his two from 30 and 51 tonight. 

Fickens entered this game completing 70%, and we're glad that we even found a guy who can do that because we were in an even worse position before finding him. 

 

It's clear that releasing Meyers didnt make this team "better". 

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2020 free agent kickers 

Mason Crosby K 35 GB TBD 14   16 94.1% 38 100% $4,025,000 UFA -
Adam Vinatieri K 47 IND TBD 12 45 17 68.0% 22 79% $3,875,000 UFA -
Ka'imi Fairbairn K 26 HOU TBD 15   20 80.0% 38 88% $3,095,000 UFA -
Greg Zuerlein K 32 LAR TBD 15 144 23 74.2% 38 100% $2,250,000 UFA -
Nick Folk K 35 NE TBD 6   13 81.2% 9 100% $1,030,000 UFA -
Dan Bailey K 32 MIN TBD 14   22 91.7% 38 90% $1,000,000 UFA -
Kai Forbath K 32 DAL TBD 2   4 100.0% 6 86% $930,000 UFA -
Aldrick Rosas K 25 NYG TBD 14 109 11 73.3% 28 88% $645,000 RFA -
Younghoe Koo K 26 ATL TBD 6 61 17 89.5% 11 92% $645,000 RFA -
Zane Gonzalez K 25 ARI TBD 14   28 90.3% 28 97% $600,000 RFA -
Daniel Carlson K 25 OAK TBD 14   15 71.4% 31 94% $570,000 ERFA -
Joey Slye K 24 CAR TBD 14   22 75.9% 30 88% $495,000 ERFA -
Sam Ficken K 27 NYJ TBD 13   14 70.0% 21 88% $495,000 ERFA -
Chase McLaughlin K 24 IND TBD 9   15 75.0% 19 100% $495,000 ERFA -

 

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34 minutes ago, A Jet from Oz said:

No, but he probably would’ve kicked that 45 yarder which would have beaten the bills, and if we did then today we’d be one game out of the 6th seed at 7-8.

17/23 on FGs

22/25 on XPs.

He hasn't been good. Lucky for him, most kickers these days kind of suck. Even Jason Myers has been pretty bad this year. 

 

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9 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

 

2020 free agent kickers 

Mason Crosby K 35 GB TBD 14   16 94.1% 38 100% $4,025,000 UFA -
Adam Vinatieri K 47 IND TBD 12 45 17 68.0% 22 79% $3,875,000 UFA -
Ka'imi Fairbairn K 26 HOU TBD 15   20 80.0% 38 88% $3,095,000 UFA -
Greg Zuerlein K 32 LAR TBD 15 144 23 74.2% 38 100% $2,250,000 UFA -
Nick Folk K 35 NE TBD 6   13 81.2% 9 100% $1,030,000 UFA -
Dan Bailey K 32 MIN TBD 14   22 91.7% 38 90% $1,000,000 UFA -
Kai Forbath K 32 DAL TBD 2   4 100.0% 6 86% $930,000 UFA -
Aldrick Rosas K 25 NYG TBD 14 109 11 73.3% 28 88% $645,000 RFA -
Younghoe Koo K 26 ATL TBD 6 61 17 89.5% 11 92% $645,000 RFA -
Zane Gonzalez K 25 ARI TBD 14   28 90.3% 28 97% $600,000 RFA -
Daniel Carlson K 25 OAK TBD 14   15 71.4% 31 94% $570,000 ERFA -
Joey Slye K 24 CAR TBD 14   22 75.9% 30 88% $495,000 ERFA -
Sam Ficken K 27 NYJ TBD 13   14 70.0% 21 88% $495,000 ERFA -
Chase McLaughlin K 24 IND TBD 9   15 75.0% 19 100% $495,000 ERFA -

 

Most of those guys either suck or are retiring

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Ficken's stats for the season.

Inside the 40:  8 for 8

40-49: 6 for 10

50+: 3 for 5

Overall FGs 20-29 Yards 30-39 Yards 40-49 Yards 50+ Yards PAT
Year Team G Blk Lng FGM FG Att Pct M Att Pct M Att Pct M Att Pct M Att Pct XP Att XPM Pct Blk
2019 New York Jets 14 1 54 17 23 73.9 2 2 100.0 6 6 100.0 6 10 60.0 3 5 60.0 25 22 88.0 0
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Yesterday he was the star of the game. He's been pretty clutch even though he's missed some easy kicks. And 3 extra points which is a lot. At least one of those as I recall wasn't his fault it was a bad snap. He deserves to come back although there probably will be a PK competition in training camp. Bring in someone serious and let them compete.  I get the impression that his teammates think he's someone they want on the team. 

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4 hours ago, Losmeister said:

Ficken is weak, bottom 5

Exactly. I dont know what the hoopla is about with a kicker who's hitting 74% of his 23 kicks and is ranked 30th in the league in percentage. 

 

There is only 9 kickers with a lower percentage than Ficken, and 3 of them havent even kicked double digit field goal attempts. Compare that to only 4 kickers of the 29 kickers ahead of him who have kicked less than 10 attempts. 

 

He is literally a bottom 6 to bottom 10 kicker in the entire league. 

 

This is just crazy. 

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10 hours ago, Bowles Movement said:

The season?  Are you saying we make the playoffs if we win the first game?  Cause from where Im sitting that would make us 7-8 going into the last game in Buffalo and I dont think even 8-8 is making the playoffs

We would be one game out of the 6th seed going into next week with Buffalo resting it’s starters 

 

yes Gase signing Vedvik cost us the season

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