Popular Post jetstream23 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 I see lots of people in the gameday thread conveniently hammering different people on the Jets depending on the situation. The same people criticizing Gase end up saying how bad Sam Darnold was playing...so which is it? Did Gase win a game over Mike Tomlin and a playoff caliber team IN SPITE of Sam Darnold? Did he suddenly motivate all these guys to step up today and make solid opportunistic plays when we needed them. Did he buy Sam Ficken some glasses? Or, did Sam Darnold bail out Adam Gase against a Top 5 defense? Can't have it both ways. I obviously think that the notion Gase had somehow "lost the locker room" was complete bullsh:t. The dude is dragging a Bottom 5 NFL roster to a 5-2 record over the past 7 games. There were even posts in the GD thread complaining about the Bell run on 3rd down to make that FG a little closer for Ficken so the Jets could go up 16-10. Could you imagine either going for it on 4th down or an incomplete pass on 3rd that caused Ficken to miss from further away? The Jets would have had to protect the short and intermediate distances on Pitt's last drive so that a FG wouldn't tie the game 13-13. It was absolutely the smart way to manage the game there. He knew the Jets D could prevent a TD....a FG was more dicey. I think Gase has been very, very consistent the past two months. He knows what he has now on this team....and what he doesn't. He's found a decent way to try to balance run/pass with an Offensive Line that can do neither particularly well. This was the Jets best win of the season....and they finish with a winning record at Home. Go Jets! 25 1 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 I don’t know why anybody thought he’d lost it. He never did and the teams been playing hard for him all year 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pdxgreen Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 He never lost it. Tbat was astroturfed, 100 per cent fabricated BS. We probably cut a guy who played like two games and he had an opinion about the locker room. Gase is a professional who expects his players to be the same way. None of this Rex, "one of my guys" buddy buddy stuff. Gase is socially removed from just about everybody. So to assume that he "lost the locker room" signifies that he has some close connection with his players. He doesn't. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: He never lost it. Tbat was astroturfed, 100 per cent fabricated BS. This. 1-7 injury-riddled start and 6-2 injury-riddled finish. Amazing. SAR I 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 Is this where we go for the circle jerk lol 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 There will be another brilliant revelation negative BS headline in a few days. Have faith! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 he sure did. this ship has been turned around folks! beep beeeeeeeeeep all aboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 BS Bleacher Report story that one anonymous player said Gase lost locker room and the board explodes! I'll believe what I saw today on the field against a team that needed this game for a playoff spot> 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 Coming from a non-Gase fan I still call it like I see it. Team is playing hard. With the billboard drama all week, the team could have made the ultimate statement to ownership, and laid down. They did the opposite, against a team fighting for the playoffs. This game said more than any anonymous twitter quote ever could. I likes that Gase played for the win, and didn’t try and gloss up Darnold’s stats, because that’s all anyone seems to care about anymore. He knew with our OL, against this D...game management, methodical was the approach. He was right. Gase also publicly stated he told the team this would be a gritty defensive battle...putting the spotlight and credit to Gregg W. and Co. Good leadership by Gase. I thought Darnold played well, and Gase called a conservative (without being ultraconservative) but necessary game. If not for the great strip sack before the 1st half, or the low snap Darnold recovered in the 4th, this game might have been 20-3 to our advantage. Can’t blame either of those plays on Gase. Lets finish the year strong and grab a W in Buffalo. 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shawn306 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I see lots of people in the gameday thread conveniently hammering different people on the Jets depending on the situation. The same people criticizing Gase end up saying how bad Sam Darnold was playing...so which is it? Did Gase win a game over Mike Tomlin and a playoff caliber team IN SPITE of Sam Darnold? Did he suddenly motivate all these guys to step up today and make solid opportunistic plays when we needed them. Did he buy Sam Ficken some glasses? Or, did Sam Darnold bail out Adam Gase against a Top 5 defense? Can't have it both ways. I obviously think that the notion Gase had somehow "lost the locker room" was complete bullsh:t. The dude is dragging a Bottom 5 NFL roster to a 5-2 record over the past 7 games. There were even posts in the GD thread complaining about the Bell run on 3rd down to make that FG a little closer for Ficken so the Jets could go up 16-10. Could you imagine either going for it on 4th down or an incomplete pass on 3rd that caused Ficken to miss from further away? The Jets would have had to protect the short and intermediate distances on Pitt's last drive so that a FG wouldn't tie the game 13-13. It was absolutely the smart way to manage the game there. He knew the Jets D could prevent a TD....a FG was more dicey. I think Gase has been very, very consistent the past two months. He knows what he has now on this team....and what he doesn't. He's found a decent way to try to balance run/pass with an Offensive Line that can do neither particularly well. This was the Jets best win of the season....and they finish with a winning record at Home. Go Jets! The only people he has lost is the fanbase. (Myself included) This team despite all of its shortcomings has not quit this year. I can't even begin to tell you the amount of Jets teams that quit on their coach. They might not be all that talented but if there is one thing you can say about this team is that they have not mailed it in. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MykePM Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 Coaching is not a popularity contest. Gase isn't the warmest guy and he strictly holds players accountable. During rough times, and there have been plenty this year, that style will cause players to ask themselves "why am I putting up with this, if we're losing anyway?" - and Gase doesn't have the history of success that would buy him time. The extremely tough early schedule and rash of bad injury / sickness luck right out of the gate was extremely bad fortune for a guy trying to establish a program without a lot of cachet or a winning personality. And yet, Gase has still turned the season around and led the team to a 5-2 record over the last 7 games. Yes there were some cupcake teams beaten in that stretch (and an inexplicable loss to one) but a defeated locker room loses all of those games - and today's win was undeniably a solid one. I'm not sure Gase is the answer. There have been enough hiccups along the way due to his coaching that I'm still not 100% a believer. However, I think he's done enough though to have legitimately earned the opportunity for a 2nd season that Christopher Johnson has given him. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: I see lots of people in the gameday thread conveniently hammering different people on the Jets depending on the situation. The same people criticizing Gase end up saying how bad Sam Darnold was playing...so which is it? Did Gase win a game over Mike Tomlin and a playoff caliber team IN SPITE of Sam Darnold? Did he suddenly motivate all these guys to step up today and make solid opportunistic plays when we needed them. Did he buy Sam Ficken some glasses? Or, did Sam Darnold bail out Adam Gase against a Top 5 defense? Can't have it both ways. I obviously think that the notion Gase had somehow "lost the locker room" was complete bullsh:t. The dude is dragging a Bottom 5 NFL roster to a 5-2 record over the past 7 games. There were even posts in the GD thread complaining about the Bell run on 3rd down to make that FG a little closer for Ficken so the Jets could go up 16-10. Could you imagine either going for it on 4th down or an incomplete pass on 3rd that caused Ficken to miss from further away? The Jets would have had to protect the short and intermediate distances on Pitt's last drive so that a FG wouldn't tie the game 13-13. It was absolutely the smart way to manage the game there. He knew the Jets D could prevent a TD....a FG was more dicey. I think Gase has been very, very consistent the past two months. He knows what he has now on this team....and what he doesn't. He's found a decent way to try to balance run/pass with an Offensive Line that can do neither particularly well. This was the Jets best win of the season....and they finish with a winning record at Home. Go Jets! Well said. It gets ridiculous listening to people bash Gase and/or Darnold while refusing to acknowledge the circumstances surrounding the team (health, roster, etc). Saying things like, "you are what your record says you are", "injuries happen to all teams"etc, is such a simpleton way of thinking. I think beyond CJs commitment to bring back Gase, this win seals the deal, even if we drop to Buff next week. For this team to go 7-9 or 6-10 is an absolute miracle considering everything that's happened this year, and Gase deserves credit for that. I want to see 1 year of Gase with a competent GM that he is on the same page with who is willing to fill the roster out the way the coach wants it, and a healthier team. I think with 6-7 wins, he deserves that at least. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The Defense won the game again so promote Williams I guess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Gase sucks big fat moose balls 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Maybe he found the giants locker room by mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 If you think the guy makes a sniff of a difference on the defense you’re stoned out of your mind. It’s the worst offense in the league. Stop living in delirium 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Paradis said: Is this where we go for the circle jerk lol Nothing as gratifying as our JV team beating the Steelers JV team.. if we beat the Bills JV team next week the ensuing circle jerk will bring new meaning to Hands Across America. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 I think I have been the biggest critic of the Gase hire from the beginning and am by no means sold on him....BUT...and a big BUT....IF and a big IF - they beat Buffalo next week - it’ll be very hard to argue with 6-2 in the second half, with this roster...and based on the ridiculous adversity this team has faced...At that point I’m on the Gase bandwagon...how can you not be?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app24:25:31 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Nothing as gratifying as our JV team beating the Steelers JV team.. if we beat the Bills JV team next week the ensuing circle jerk will bring new meaning to Hands Across America. Awfully salty today man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: The Defense won the game again so promote Williams I guess Wrong. Offense scored 16 on a top 5 defense. Defense let Mason Rudolph look like Joe Montana until he got hurt. If he played the entire game. We probably lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I think I have been the biggest critic of the Gase hire from the beginning and am by no means sold on him....BUT...and a big BUT.... IF and a big IF - they beat Buffalo next week - it’ll be very hard to argue with 6-2 in the second half, with this roster...and based on the ridiculous adversity this team has faced... At that point I’m on the Gase bandwagon...how can you not be? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 24:25:31 I dont think bills has nothing to play for . Most likely they will rest all the starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MykePM Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 mispost. apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sonny Werblin Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pac said: Nothing as gratifying as our JV team beating the Steelers JV team.. if we beat the Bills JV team next week the ensuing circle jerk will bring new meaning to Hands Across America. When other teams beat up on the jets practice squad QB early in the season the wins and losses still counted. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Gase has been very, very consistent the past two months. He knows what he has now on this team....and what he doesn't. He's found a decent way to try to balance run/pass with an Offensive Line that can do neither particularly well. This was the Jets best win of the season....and they finish with a winning record at Home. Go Jets! great post. Sam and Gase are bot kinda MEH. SO FAR. it CAn change. we ALL WANT IT TO CHANGE. in a way we ca ALL SAY.... THIS O CAN can get er done. And with GW doing a duct tape job on the D. not horrible. always root to win. to learn winning. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: When other teams beat up on the jets practice squad QB early in the season the wins and losses still counted. And that's all that matters or what people remember in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, JTJet said: Wrong. Offense scored 16 on a top 5 defense. Defense let Mason Rudolph look like Joe Montana until he got hurt. If he played the entire game. We probably lose. The defense is starting a bunch of no names and the only reason they won. Gase sucks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BigRy56 said: I don’t know why anybody thought he’d lost it. He never did and the teams been playing hard for him all year I don't know about the playing hard part. There were games where this team clearly did not show up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, HessStation said: The defense is starting a bunch of no names and the only reason they won. Gase sucks Wrong again. But I'm not going to argue with you. I can tell after one reply its pointless. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, HessStation said: The defense is starting a bunch of no names and the only reason they won. Gase sucks Bellichick is a defensive minded head coach and the only reason his team won many games was because of the offense therefore bellichick sucks? Just trying to follow your "logic." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, JTJet said: Wrong again. But I'm not going to argue with you. I can tell after one reply its pointless. He’s a glorified OC for the worst offense in the league. He’s sucks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: When other teams beat up on the jets practice squad QB early in the season the wins and losses still counted. That's kind of my point.. this year was a waste because the playoff roster that had been assembled was completely gutted. Everything had lined up quite nicely only to be destroyed with a series of freak injuries, bad luck, and mono. I mentally checked out a couple weeks ago.. I'll watch and pay attention because I have for 30+ years but I'm not finding much to be happy about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Meh. Still not a fan of him. Defense with no names is playing its ass off for Williams. Gase has nothing to do with that side as he sits on the bench flipping thru his call sheet while the defense is on the field. He doesn’t like Bell. He doesn’t trust Darnold and thinks he’s an idiot more often then not. These wins have come against a bunch of crappy teams. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Bellichick is a defensive minded head coach and the only reason his team won many games was because of the offense therefore bellichick sucks? Just trying to follow your "logic." No, he’s a cheating scumbag but also has won 6 SB’s some based off a really good Defenses however the team has been molded by his cheating, smug presence for over two decades, it’s a false equivalence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pac Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 hours ago, BUM-KNEE said: Awfully salty today man I spent yesterday with the in laws. I like them and we get along great but they have a strange affinity for a guy who lives on Pennsylvania Ave. I have no problem with that either but before going I had to give a vow to the lady friend that I would not give my 2 cents if the subject was broached. At one point her father, who is an awesome guy I joke with all the time, said "well he's the best thing that's ever happened to this country"... after almost choking on my egg nog I had to take a deep breath and say: "hmmph.. that's something.... so.... is there any egg nog left"? It wasn't easy. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Pac said: I spent the day with the in laws yesterday. I like them and we get along great but they have a strange affinity for a guy who lives on Pennsylvania Ave. I have no problem with that either but before going I had to give a vow to the lady friend that I would not give my 2 cents if the subject was broached. At one point her father, who is an awesome guy I joke with all the time, said "well he's the best thing that's ever happen to this country"... after almost choking on my egg nog I had to take a deep breath and say: "hmmph.. that's something.... so.... is there any egg nog left"? It wasn't easy. I fully understand. You are more restrained than I could ever be in that instance. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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