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Don’t dismiss the significance of this Jets surge By Mark Cannizzaro December 25, 2019 | 1:02pm Skeptics step aside please: The arrow is pointed up for the Jets. Merry C

Please make the font smaller. I need more use out of these binoculars I have sitting next to my tv that I use to try and find a pass rush on our Jets.

This is actually huge. Basically our entire depth chart now has starter experience. That will be great moving forward.

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1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said:

This is actually huge. Basically our entire depth chart now has starter experience. That will be great moving forward.

I think it's a big deal for what should be our depth but we still need to find a lot of starter quality players. In the end, that's not very helpful if a lot of the guys who started this year are still starting next year. It only helps if they're backups.

Finding at least one starting quality CB in Austin was a pretty big deal.

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3 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

brand new OL

mosley / williamson back

another playmaker at receiver

 full year of Sam and Gase system

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9 wins or better next year

The Jets will be very lucky to find two starting offensive linemen in the draft. The last time we did that was 2006 when we had 2 first round picks and used them both on o-line. Free agent offensive linemen are usually trash because teams tend to hold on to good o-linemen. The 2020 schedule looks pretty rough. 

I hope you're right.

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7 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

brand new OL

mosley / williamson back

another playmaker at receiver

full year of Sam and Gase system

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9 wins or better next year

But whos to say we don't have 8 more injuries again by week 3 next season? Gase's camp Krusty evidently causes our players to be quite lazy and out of shape.

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13 minutes ago, jgb said:

Predicted 6 wins. The Jets performed exactly to reasonable expectations. No cause for optimism or pessimism.

I’m not getting suckered into that sh*t again. Let’s see what this GM is about..

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5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

The Jets will be very lucky to find two starting offensive linemen in the draft. The last time we did that was 2006 when we had 2 first round picks and used them both on o-line. Free agent offensive linemen are usually trash because teams tend to hold on to good o-linemen. The 2020 schedule looks pretty rough. 

I hope you're right.

assuming we draft a LT, kick Beachum/Edoga to the RT....center and guard are very solvable issues. I think as long as the focus is there, we should be in good shape.

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10 minutes ago, TNJet said:

But whos to say we don't have 8 more injuries again by week 3 next season? Gase's camp Krusty evidently causes our players to be quite lazy and out of shape.

whos to say any football team any year doesnt have 8 injuries by week 3? you think that Gase players somehow get hurt more then players from other teams? i dont remember the last time the falcons ended week 5 with their entire secondary in place.

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10 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

assuming we draft a LT, kick Beachum/Edoga to the RT....center and guard are very solvable issues. I think as long as the focus is there, we should be in good shape.

I'm just not so confident the o-line is going to be fixed overnight or is as you say "very solvable". The current disaster is a result of many years of neglect. Turning it around in a single off-season seems like a reach to me especially considering there are other needs on the team.

I will praise Douglas for eternity if he fixes the o-line in one off-season.

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I like what they have done since the Miami loss, overall.

i think being 5-2 over the course of any 7 game stretch with this roster is nothing to sneeze at. This is easily a below average roster.

However, there is nothing to guarantee that we build on this next year. In order to do that, we will need a good to very good draft and a sensible free agency period. If Douglas is the goods, we have a bright future, but only time will tell if he actually is. 

 

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Don’t dismiss the significance of this Jets surge

December 25, 2019 | 1:02pm

Skeptics step aside please: The arrow is pointed up for the Jets.

Merry Christmas, Jets fans, even to those of you who prefer to poke holes in the team’s second-half resurgence — 5-2 since the 1-7 start wrecked their playoff hopes.

Skepticism is a perfectly understandable emotion. After all, exactly what have the Jets done in the franchise’s frustrating history to earn your trust?

So, you’re free to turn your nose up at five wins in the past seven games entering Sunday’s season finale in Buffalo with a chance to finish a respectable (for the Jets, who we grade on a curve) 7-9 because:

  •  The surge is too little, too late, having come in garbage time, after all hope of making the playoffs was extinguished.
  •  The five wins have come against a bunch of tomato cans — the Giants (4-11), Redskins (3-12), Dolphins (4-11), Raiders (7-8) and even the now-flailing Steelers (8-7) — teams with a combined current record of 26-49.
  •  The unacceptable 22-6 loss to then 0-11 Bengals. Enough said there.

Still, though, it’s important to recognize that the Jets won those five games, some of which you expected them to lose (such as last Sunday when that Devlin Hodges pass hung in their air for an eternity before Jets safety Marcus Maye batted it away from Steelers receiver James Washington in the end zone at the end of the game).

When the Patriots were going 8-0 to start the season, the talk was not about the terrible teams they were beating, it was about whether they might be able to go undefeated.

OK, maybe a bad analogy, comparing the Jets and Patriots in the same sentence. But you get the point: Teams can only play the opponent in front of them. image.gif.267c922a8f32daa303ee2e6ad4b719a7.gif

And, if the Jets had started the season winning five of the first seven games, their fans wouldn’t have been so quick to poke holes in that 5-2 start by bellyaching about lack of style points and the weak opponents.

If the Jets are able to beat the Bills, who won’t play their starters the entire game since they cannot alter their playoff seeding, they’ll finish 7-9. If Jets fans were told at the start of the season that’s the record they’d finish with, what would the perception of the team be with Adam Gase in his first year as the coach, implementing entirely new offensive and defensive systems?

Obviously, 7-9 isn’t good enough. But remember, we’re grading the Jets on a curve considering that they’re in the process of a finishing a fourth consecutive losing season and haven’t been to the playoffs since 2010.

It’s important to consider, too:

  •  The Jets lost quarterback Sam Darnold for three games (Weeks 2, 3 and 4) to mononucleosis.
  •  They lost linebacker C.J. Mosley, the marquee offseason free-agent acquisition and a dynamic playmaker, essentially for the year in the season opener.
  •  Ten different players have started on the offensive line, which has had eight different five-man combinations in 15 games.

Excuses?

Sure they are. But facts, too.

And remember: The Jets never have been the most stable of franchises in the league, so when you throw those complications into the pot, the stew can start to go bad pretty quickly.

So, if nothing else, the Jets deserve some modicum of credit for not turning 1-7 into 3-13. For whatever that’s worth.

The Jets have some young, ascending, talented players on the roster and, if they don’t screw it up this offseason by trading safety Jamal Adams or letting linebacker Jordan Jenkins walk or giving away running back Le’Veon Bell for a bag of used golf balls, they have a pretty good chance to end the nine-year postseason drought in 2020.

 

 

“This team has more wins than in my rookie year when we had (Darrell) Revis, Sheldon (Richardson), Leo (Williams), (Matt) Forte, Fitz (Ryan Fitzpatrick), Brandon Marshall,” Jenkins told The Post, referring to the 2016 team that went 5-11. “That was a star-loaded team, and right now we’ve got more wins than we had that year. We’ve had half the team hurt, with new faces everywhere. image.gif.70836b783ada201530e849f0ca435d11.gif

“This team has overcome adversity. The second game in, you got the (Darnold) mono and before the first game (starting linebacker) Avery (Williamson) is out, and the first game C.J. goes down. I go down in the second game. Injuries on top of injuries, and we somehow managed to fight through it and keep stacking wins.”

What would 7-9 mean?

“It would show that this team didn’t quit,” Jenkins said. “Some teams, if they start out the season 1-7, they would have been done right there.”

What does it mean for 2020 and beyond?

“Win or lose (in Buffalo), one thing we did do when we were 1-7 was stay together as a group,” veteran receiver and team captain Demaryius Thomas said. “Me and Jamal are always talking about changing the culture and the core around here and stop being OK with what the Jets have been the last couple of years (translation: losers).

“I think you should be excited for next year that this is going in the right direction.”

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Don’t dismiss the significance of this Jets surge

December 25, 2019 | 1:02pm

Skeptics step aside please: The arrow is pointed up for the Jets.

Merry Christmas, Jets fans, even to those of you who prefer to poke holes in the team’s second-half resurgence — 5-2 since the 1-7 start wrecked their playoff hopes.

Skepticism is a perfectly understandable emotion. After all, exactly what have the Jets done in the franchise’s frustrating history to earn your trust?

So, you’re free to turn your nose up at five wins in the past seven games entering Sunday’s season finale in Buffalo with a chance to finish a respectable (for the Jets, who we grade on a curve) 7-9 because:

  •  The surge is too little, too late, having come in garbage time, after all hope of making the playoffs was extinguished.
  •  The five wins have come against a bunch of tomato cans — the Giants (4-11), Redskins (3-12), Dolphins (4-11), Raiders (7-8) and even the now-flailing Steelers (8-7) — teams with a combined current record of 26-49.
  •  The unacceptable 22-6 loss to then 0-11 Bengals. Enough said there.

Still, though, it’s important to recognize that the Jets won those five games, some of which you expected them to lose (such as last Sunday when that Devlin Hodges pass hung in their air for an eternity before Jets safety Marcus Maye batted it away from Steelers receiver James Washington in the end zone at the end of the game).

When the Patriots were going 8-0 to start the season, the talk was not about the terrible teams they were beating, it was about whether they might be able to go undefeated.

OK, maybe a bad analogy, comparing the Jets and Patriots in the same sentence. But you get the point: Teams can only play the opponent in front of them. image.gif.267c922a8f32daa303ee2e6ad4b719a7.gif

And, if the Jets had started the season winning five of the first seven games, their fans wouldn’t have been so quick to poke holes in that 5-2 start by bellyaching about lack of style points and the weak opponents.

If the Jets are able to beat the Bills, who won’t play their starters the entire game since they cannot alter their playoff seeding, they’ll finish 7-9. If Jets fans were told at the start of the season that’s the record they’d finish with, what would the perception of the team be with Adam Gase in his first year as the coach, implementing entirely new offensive and defensive systems?

Obviously, 7-9 isn’t good enough. But remember, we’re grading the Jets on a curve considering that they’re in the process of a finishing a fourth consecutive losing season and haven’t been to the playoffs since 2010.

It’s important to consider, too:

  •  The Jets lost quarterback Sam Darnold for three games (Weeks 2, 3 and 4) to mononucleosis.
  •  They lost linebacker C.J. Mosley, the marquee offseason free-agent acquisition and a dynamic playmaker, essentially for the year in the season opener.
  •  Ten different players have started on the offensive line, which has had eight different five-man combinations in 15 games.

Excuses?

Sure they are. But facts, too.

And remember: The Jets never have been the most stable of franchises in the league, so when you throw those complications into the pot, the stew can start to go bad pretty quickly.

So, if nothing else, the Jets deserve some modicum of credit for not turning 1-7 into 3-13. For whatever that’s worth.

The Jets have some young, ascending, talented players on the roster and, if they don’t screw it up this offseason by trading safety Jamal Adams or letting linebacker Jordan Jenkins walk or giving away running back Le’Veon Bell for a bag of used golf balls, they have a pretty good chance to end the nine-year postseason drought in 2020.

 

 

“This team has more wins than in my rookie year when we had (Darrell) Revis, Sheldon (Richardson), Leo (Williams), (Matt) Forte, Fitz (Ryan Fitzpatrick), Brandon Marshall,” Jenkins told The Post, referring to the 2016 team that went 5-11. “That was a star-loaded team, and right now we’ve got more wins than we had that year. We’ve had half the team hurt, with new faces everywhere. image.gif.70836b783ada201530e849f0ca435d11.gif

“This team has overcome adversity. The second game in, you got the (Darnold) mono and before the first game (starting linebacker) Avery (Williamson) is out, and the first game C.J. goes down. I go down in the second game. Injuries on top of injuries, and we somehow managed to fight through it and keep stacking wins.”

What would 7-9 mean?

“It would show that this team didn’t quit,” Jenkins said. “Some teams, if they start out the season 1-7, they would have been done right there.”

What does it mean for 2020 and beyond?

“Win or lose (in Buffalo), one thing we did do when we were 1-7 was stay together as a group,” veteran receiver and team captain Demaryius Thomas said. “Me and Jamal are always talking about changing the culture and the core around here and stop being OK with what the Jets have been the last couple of years (translation: losers).

“I think you should be excited for next year that this is going in the right direction.”

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ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS ^^^ IS THIS... 

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-adam-gase-jets-fans-20191224-aqdwksbo5nditexjl65gvdb6ye-story.html

Adam Gase has a message for every long-suffering Jets fan, who has endured a lifetime of anguish: He doesn’t care about you.

The Daily News has learned that the embattled head coach has privately told people for months that Gang Green diehards have never mattered to him.

“I’m rich as f--k” has become Gase’s go-to line since taking over 11 months ago, according to sources. Gase has repeatedly said it to anyone that mentions the avalanche of criticism this year. It has become his defense mechanism.

“He’s an insecure guy,” a Jets source told the News. It’s a slap in the face to every fan, who has invested their time and money in a poor product for years. The last thing someone supporting this franchise needs to hear is the head coach boasting about his bloated bank account.

Gase also has said behind closed doors that his “Give-A-Sh--t meter” is low when it comes to critics since he’s got enough money in the bank now (thanks to Christopher Johnson).

The head coach has also privately told folks he’s not going to significantly change how he operates. There was a hope in the organization Gase would learn from his failings in Miami, but that hasn’t happened.

The most notable adjustment has been Gase’s handling of press conferences this year. At least one influential person in the organization told Gase early in the season he needed to get his act together and not bristle at questions that he didn’t like, the News has learned.

The reasoning? People in the building felt acting like a child (like he had done in Miami too often) in those settings reflected poorly on the organization and him.

Jets head coach Adam Gase doesn't care about Gang Green's fans. At least, by his latest comments.
Jets head coach Adam Gase doesn't care about Gang Green's fans. At least, by his latest comments. (Seth Wenig/AP)

So, he begrudgingly relented, according to sources.

However, Gase is the same person he’s always been in just about every other way, according to sources. Although the coach claims he doesn’t read or hear the criticism that has trailed him all year, people in the building don’t actually believe that.

In fact, some people on One Jets Drive are convinced Gase or a family member has a burner Twitter account to monitor what is being written or said about him — and defend him if necessary. Gase didn’t respond to several requests from the News for this story.

Gase has privately made it clear that getting a second head coaching contract has emboldened him, a fear that many had when he got another gig so quickly after the Dolphins fired him. He hasn’t been humbled in any way, according to people around him.

“He’s not changing,” another Jets source said. “He said he’s going to try to win his way.”

That’s a frightening notion given Gase’s track record.

His way has typically been the losing way.

The data is overwhelming. Gase, who is 29-35 in four seasons as a head coach, has lost 26 games by double digits, 22 by at least two touchdowns, and 12 by at least 20 points.

On average, he loses once every four games by at least 18 points, which is a mind-blowing reality for a coach with a history of either winning white-knucklers or getting blown out.

Gase has lost one in three games by at least two touchdowns in his head coaching career. One out of every 2.5 games results in a double-digit defeat.

His way.

Gase has actually made the offense worse in every meaningful statistical category this season.

Consider the irrefutable facts: The Jets are worse in 2019 than 2018 in points per game (20.8 to 17.5), total yards (299.2 to 273.1), yards per play (4.9 to 4.6), first downs per game (16.1 to 15.7), passing yards (197.8 to 195.1), rushing yards (101.4 to 78.1), rushing yards per attempt (4.0 to 3.3), third-down efficiency (32 percent to 30 percent) and plays per game (60.7 to 59.4).

The offense has regressed by every objective measure going from former play-caller Jeremy Bates to Gase.

Gase’s offense ranks in the bottom three in the league in total yards, rushing, passing, yards per play, third-down efficiency, and first downs.

His way.

The D-line has viewed defensive coordinator Gregg Williams their leader and Gase a glorified offensive coordinator as opposed to the head coach.
The D-line has viewed defensive coordinator Gregg Williams their leader and Gase a glorified offensive coordinator as opposed to the head coach. (Mark Brown/Getty Images)

He has divorced himself from the defense, too.

How detached has he been? On at least two occasions this spring, Gase literally had his back to the defense on the field after the offense had wrapped up practice. He chatted with people on the sideline, while Gregg Williams coached the defense. Then, Gase jogged off the field, while the defense was still practicing. He never turned around once to watch what the defense was doing.

Defensive players view Williams as their leader. To them, Gase is a glorified offensive coordinator. So, Gase doesn’t deserve the credit or blame for what happens on that side of the ball.

The real shame is that Jets fans want Gase to be successful, because they want to love their team. But they’re savvy enough to recognize a poor head coach. Lord knows they’ve seen enough of them in their days.

The propagandists have highlighted that the Jets have won five of their last seven games, while conveniently omitting that those victories have come against teams with a combined 33-57 record (.347 winning percentage).

So, what can we truly glean from these victories against a bunch of teams that will sitting at home watching the playoffs like Gase?

The Jets were 0-4 this season against teams that have clinched a playoff berth. It’ll be 0-5 if the Eagles beat the Giants next week. Gase is 1-6 against teams with a winning record this season.

His way.

The Jets’ real season will end with a 6-9 record. The finale in Buffalo on Sunday will be nothing more than a preseason game for a playoff-bound team that is locked into the No. 5 seed.

Gase’s club will face the Bills’ JV squad for most of — if not the entire — game. A seventh win for Gang Green would be nothing but window dressing on Gase’s resume. (It would also adversely affect their draft positioning).

It’s disturbing that Gase has repeatedly cited injuries to explain away failures, too. There’s a troubling trend in the locker room. Too many players are pointing to injuries when discussing the team’s struggles. Le’Veon Bell, Sam Darnold and Jordan Jenkins each referenced injuries after the win against the Steelers on Sunday.

Winning organizations don’t do that. When was the last time Tom Brady or any of the Patriots’ difference makers openly leaned on injuries to explain in-season struggles?

It rarely if ever happens since Bill Belichick doesn’t allow it to become a part of his culture. Gase introduces it publicly and whines through back-channels.

“He’s a professional excuse-maker,” one general manager told the News earlier this season.

Gase’s approval rating is circling the drain for myriad reasons. His poor production doesn’t warrant his arrogance. Fans can stomach a cocky coach if he delivers. Jets fans are smart enough to spot a used car salesman.

Much of their fears have become reality. Meanwhile, Gase is laughing all the way to bank.

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19 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

6 or 7 wins against an incredibly easy schedule.  Next years sched is much tougher.  Any big improvements player wise will be via the draft and rookies.

Adam Gase is still head coach.

We will be lucky to be .500 next year.

People were crying about the schedule this year also. 

In 2020 we only face 3 playoff teams at home. And we face 4 playoff teams on the road.

That's not too imposing. And we are coming pretty close to Brady retiring which would make 2 more games very winnable. 

 

 

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I'm far from a Gase lover, but Jordan Jenkins is speaking truth - the team hasn't quit.  And that's a credit to Gase, Williams, Boyer and all the assistants.  Just as with Rex, I think you have to give Gase and Douglas a chance to get some of "their guys" in the locker room to see what the potential is here before we can judge...

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4 hours ago, pointman said:

Doing God's work. Thank you.

Instead of spending money on biplanes and billboards, we should have chipped in to buy joewilly12, our #1 article reposter, a new computer so that he can post in full sized fonts.  For once.

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4 hours ago, jetsons said:

“This team has more wins than in my rookie year when we had (Darrell) Revis, Sheldon (Richardson), Leo (Williams), (Matt) Forte, Fitz (Ryan Fitzpatrick), Brandon Marshall,” Jenkins told The Post, referring to the 2016 team that went 5-11. “That was a star-loaded team, and right now we’ve got more wins than we had that year. We’ve had half the team hurt, with new faces everywhere. 

God Bless Mark Cannizzaro.

The Anti-Manish.

SAR I

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2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

People were crying about the schedule this year also. 

In 2020 we only face 3 playoff teams at home. And we face 4 playoff teams on the road.

That's not too imposing. And we are coming pretty close to Brady retiring which would make 2 more games very winnable. 

 

 

Wut?  Who, where?  It was super easy.  We lost vs miami and cincy, have the 32nd ranked offense and we are throwing rose petals at the coach.

It is going to be a tougher sched next year and Fa is no going to save us.

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2 hours ago, freestater said:

Gase said we'd be playing meaningful games in December. His standard. By his standard, he has failed. 

Last week's game was in December.  And it was quite meaningful.

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2 hours ago, peekskill68 said:

I'm far from a Gase lover, but Jordan Jenkins is speaking truth - the team hasn't quit.  And that's a credit to Gase, Williams, Boyer and all the assistants.  Just as with Rex, I think you have to give Gase and Douglas a chance to get some of "their guys" in the locker room to see what the potential is here before we can judge...

Gase is an offensive coach and we have the 32nd ranked offense.

We have a body of work of his in miami where he did go get 'his' guys and his offense sucked there too.

Douglas will get his chance, it is a great pity the dumb owner let mac have one last disastrous draft and off season to put the team behind the 8 ball.

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1 minute ago, SAR I said:

Last week's game was in December.  And it was quite meaningful.

SAR I

I think he meant meaningful for the jets not the team we are trying to play spoiler against.  But the pro gase crowd will grasp at anything it seems.

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1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

Wut?  Who, where?  It was super easy.  We lost vs miami and cincy, have the 32nd ranked offense and we are throwing rose petals at the coach.

It is going to be a tougher sched next year and Fa is no going to save us.

No one is throwing rose petals as the coach, but no one is running him out of town either.  Gase's grades:

Culture / Locker Room / Adversity:  A+

Strategy / Adjustments / Playcalling:  INC

You can't judge anything Gase did from a creativity / whisperer standpoint because he did not have the OL, WR's, TE's he thought he was going to have as the injuries piled up atop each other.  We couldn't run the ball because no D respected our WR's.  "Take away Bell, dare Darnold and those nobodies to beat us" was the gimmie gameplan every week.  Once Darnold recovered, surprisingly we actually were able to generate points.  That's a good sign, but who knows what Gase would have been had we had Robbie and Crowder lined up next to Enunwa, Herndon, and Griffin for 16 games behind an OL that wasn't the worst in the NFL.

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4 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I think he meant meaningful for the jets not the team we are trying to play spoiler against.  But the pro gase crowd will grasp at anything it seems.

The season went out the window when we lost Darnold and Simean within 10 minutes of each other.  All bets for the playoffs were off at 0-4 when we didn't get Mosley and our injured WR's, TE, and ILB back as we'd hoped. 

How can you not be impressed by this 5-2 finish?  We've seen Jets teams collapse and turn on each other over and over again the past decade far too often.  And at the time they were winning and among the NFL upper eschelon, we beat the Cowboys, Raiders, and Steelers.  For the first time in forever the Jets punched up from their weight class, they outperformed their abilities, they exceeded expectations.

I'm very proud of this team, but more than that-  we've proven that we have a pretty good set of backups and third-stringers who have now gotten 8+ games under their belts.  Next year is set up to be very exciting.  This season has been quite good for us-  not because we didn't get a December playoff push, but because we got something else entirely-  proof that this team can stick together, play hard, and be resilient, surely a trait necessary for next season's division title quest.

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1 hour ago, SAR I said:

The season went out the window when we lost Darnold and Simean within 10 minutes of each other.  All bets for the playoffs were off at 0-4 when we didn't get Mosley and our injured WR's, TE, and ILB back as we'd hoped. 

How can you not be impressed by this 5-2 finish?  We've seen Jets teams collapse and turn on each other over and over again the past decade far too often.  And at the time they were winning and among the NFL upper eschelon, we beat the Cowboys, Raiders, and Steelers.  For the first time in forever the Jets punched up from their weight class, they outperformed their abilities, they exceeded expectations.

I'm very proud of this team, but more than that-  we've proven that we have a pretty good set of backups and third-stringers who have now gotten 8+ games under their belts.  Next year is set up to be very exciting.  This season has been quite good for us-  not because we didn't get a December playoff push, but because we got something else entirely-  proof that this team can stick together, play hard, and be resilient, surely a trait necessary for next season's division title quest.

SAR I

What you point out is a very big deal that is now pretty much under the radar.

So many of these guys who were pressed into service are going to have great experience when most become depth for next year.

The biggest surprise of all I think would be the D Line, who were basically found money on the street, performing at just about the SAME level as when the Jets invested tons of dollars and draft capital into it over the last decade.

 

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1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said:

I really enjoyed watching the young guys on DL and MLB step up and be quality football players. 

From Bashem to Cashman, Kyle Phillips, Fat Foley and even Bless Austin after being thrown into the fire following a long rehab in which he never seen a live training camp rep, preseason rep or anything like that. He excelled(minus last game) from the very start with zero offseason physical preparation...was his body even in “footballl shape” fully? That was impressive. 

Then you have a few older than 25 guys like Neville Hewitt. He was fantastic at some points. 

Some things to be happy about. If Joe Dougles is good, we’ll be able to add to what we have and really get cooking.

(side note: wild how guys like Darron Lee and Leonard Williams were picked high in the draft and a lot of these kids come in as undrafted free agents, 6th rounders, guys right off the practice squad, and they perform better than the former two mentioned ever have.

hot take:

Maccagnan had zero f-ing clue. 

And Maccagnan was SUPPOSED to have "zero f-ing clue", a failed Scout who was about to be fired was somehow made GM by the stupidest Owner in the NFL.

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