Cimini is a duntz

[kevinc855]

Why does anyone read this old boomers stuff anymore. He’s got SOJF written all over him. 
 

Getting rid of Robby, the marquise player for sams Rythm And qbs development be a cimini aka duntz move. Remember this is the guy who used to gush over Fitzpatrick. At least he didn’t go full on old white boomer SOJF tho and thinks we should retain Adams. 

My prediction by the way, all 3 are back. Take it to the bank. 

Why Jets should be prepared to move on from Le'Veon Bell, Robby Anderson

 

Jets running back Le'Veon Bell is averaging 3.3 yards per carry, the lowest of his career. Rich Graessle/Icon Sportswire

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First-year general manager Joe Douglas provided a glimpse into his roster-building strategy at the midseason trading deadline in October, making only one deal (adios, Leonard Williams) and resisting the urge to hold an "I'll show 'em who's boss" fire sale.

His job is about to get a lot more complicated.

 

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Heading into his first offseason with the New York Jets, Douglas faces a handful of delicate personnel decisions: Does he trade a fan favorite who might seek a record-breaking contract? Does he cut bait with a declining star even if it means eating millions in salary? Does he play hardball with an ascending wide receiver?

A few thoughts on how Douglas should tackle these issues:

Trade Le'Veon Bell

He is due to make $13.5 million (fully guaranteed) in 2020, and Bell most certainly isn't a $13.5 million player, but the Jets are stuck between a (running) back and a hard place.

 

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They can't cut him because the cap hit is prohibitive ($19 million), and the only way to trade him is to pay a chunk of his salary. How much they pay would dictate how much return they get in a trade, but the best-case scenario is a fourth-round pick, one rival executive predicted. A 28-year-old runner (next season) with a monster contract and a 3.3-yard average isn't going to spark a bidding war. (He ranks 45th out of 46 qualified runners in yards per carry.) Maybe Bell would agree to renegotiate to facilitate a trade?

A middle-round pick isn't a great haul for a former All-Pro, but a trade is the way to go if the financials make sense. The Jets could save a few million in salary, reinvest it to address other needs and draft a replacement at running back.

Coach Adam Gase didn't want Bell in the first place because he prefers a "committee" backfield instead of having a high-priced feature back, but he was overruled by former GM Mike Maccagnan. My hunch is he will push for a trade. The ultimate decision belongs to Douglas, who has final say on the roster. Douglas, hired in June, has no allegiance to Bell.

Has Gase maximized Bell's talent? No, but he's not an ideal scheme fit, especially on outside zone plays. There's also some concern about Bell's previously injured knee and his overall commitment to conditioning.

Bottom line: He's a solid player with a bad contract, and the Jets should look to improve the situation. An artificial deadline is March 15, when a $2 million roster bonus (guaranteed) is due.

Prediction: Bell will be playing football (and bowling) in another city in the fall.

Don't trade Jamal Adams unless offered the moon

The safety is the Jets' best player, he's 24 years old and he's under contract for two more years (counting a team option in 2021). Seems like a no-brainer, right?

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Well, it got a little messy around the trading deadline, when multiple teams expressed interest in Adams and the Jets listened to offers. That didn't sit well with Adams, who had a temper tantrum. His relationship with management appears to have been repaired, but those same teams likely will renew their interest in the offseason. That, coupled with Adams' likely desire to become the NFL's highest-paid safety, will fuel trade speculation.

Don't do it.

Adams is a game-changing player, just reaching the prime of his career. Make no mistake, $15 million a year is a lot for a strong safety -- that's what it would cost to put him atop the position -- but it's wiser to spend on a homegrown star than throw stupid money at free agents with reported motivation issues (yes, looking at you, Trumaine Johnson).

"He's the heart and soul of [the defense]," Gase said. "Guys elevate their play when he's out there."

Douglas is on record as saying he wants to keep Adams, but he also said he will always listen if a team calls. He reportedly was seeking a first-round pick and two second-rounders at the October deadline. If a team drafting in the top 20 is willing to pay that much, Douglas has to consider it for the good of the organization. Draft capital is important for a team with so many needs. Any package short of that wouldn't make sense.

Prediction: Adams will be back with a new contract.

 

The Jets would like to retain receiver Robby Anderson, but he might be out of their price range. Joshua Sarner/Icon Sportswire

Don't overpay for Robby Anderson

Eligible for free agency, the wide receiver has bolstered his stock with a late-season surge (24 catches, 402 yards and three touchdowns in five games), but this isn't a cut-and-dried decision because of the potential cost.

 

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Anderson is expected to seek a contract that will pay him at least $14 million a year, which would put him in the top 15 among wide receivers. The Jets are justifiably hesitant to go that high. While he has made nice strides in recent weeks, demonstrating a willingness to fight for contested balls, Anderson hasn't elevated himself to the point where he deserves to be paid like a star.

He's never had a 1,000-yard season, he's not a red zone threat and he's a slow starter. There's also some concern about his off-the-field habits, even though he has stayed out of trouble for nearly two years.

The Jets are interested in re-signing Anderson, a solid WR2, but they would be stretching if they meet his price. Plus, this is a strong wide-receiver draft, with ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay projecting six in the first 20 picks. You hate to lose a player such as Anderson, who has provided some electrifying moments over the years, but it's important to focus on the big picture. The Jets are ranked 32nd in total offense with him; they couldn't do worse without him.

Prediction: Anderson will sign with his hometown Miami Dolphins, where he will reunite with former receivers coach Karl Dorrell.

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/82077/why-jets-should-be-prepared-to-move-on-from-leveon-bell-robby-anderson

[Integrity28]

Copy paste article. Then add your broken sentences for for context. Kthanksbai.

[jgb]

I remember when age was respected as a proxy for experience and wisdom.

[dbatesman]

4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

marquise player

 

4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Rythm qbs development 

 

4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

duntz

all right

[Beerfish]

Robbie is a useful though not great Wr.  He should be brought back but not if he wants too much money.

If his ask is too high he can go.

Bell?  I do not see anyway he leaves, Can;t cut him due to cap penalties.  No one is going o trade for him.  Teams do not pay backs that much money, especially coming off this past year.

[Anthony Jet]

Why is boomer such an insult?

[HawkeyeJet]

Robby "Grand Marquis" Anderson.

Print the shirts.

[Warfish]

16 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Why does anyone read this old boomers stuff anymore. He’s got SOJF written all over him. 

Ok, Millennial.

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Getting rid of Robby the marquise player for sams Rythm qbs development be a cimini aka duntz move. 

Robby will be back if the price is right.  He won't if it isn't.  He's a solid #2 WR.  He's not a #1 WR.  His price (for us) will need to reflect that.

"sams Rythm qbs development" or not.

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At least he didn’t go full on old white boomer SOJF tho and thinks we should retain Adams. 

What does his age or skin tone have to do with anything? 

Adams in a very good Safety, reasonable arguments can be made to retain him that don't require the opinion speaker's skin tone to be white or his age to be "boomer".  I think he should be moved, does that make me a non-old, non-white and/or non-boomer by default?

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My prediction by the way, all 3 are back. Take it to the bank. 

They could be.  I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[kelticwizard]

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Why is boomer such an insult?

It actually started out as a joke.  People over 50 or so are usually not quite up to the latest technology, like writing a check in front of a long line at the supermarket instead of using a credit card or even using a computer.  Lately seems to have escalated to more than that, though.

[DoubleDown]

There is nothing unreasonable about any of Cimini's positions, and I happen to agree with all of them.

If you can get anything decent for Bell in a trade, you should certainly consider it.  He has lost a step, and he's being paid too much for his level of production.  Perhaps a contending team would consider him as a "last piece of the puzzle" type of player and allow us to offload his contract while he is still worth something.

Adams is the best player on the team and he's young.  He has proven to be a playmaking impact player over his first three seasons here, and he has two years remaining on a very reasonable rookie contract.  He is going into his prime in the coming years.  I would absolutely not move him for anything less than 2 first rounds picks, and it would likely take more depending on where in the first round the other team is picking.

Anderson is a decent role player (#3 or #4 WR), but he's going to command too much money.  Someone is going to overpay him.  I hope it's not the Jets.

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

To be honest I feel like the Jets already have Robby Anderson's replacement on the roster in Vyncint Smith. They are the same player. Both are 6'3, both ran a 4.36 40 and both went undrafted. 1 will cost you 600k the other wants 14 mill / a season. No brainier to me.

[nj meadowlands]

18 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Why does anyone read this old boomers stuff anymore. He’s got SOJF written all over him. 
 

Getting rid of Robby the marquise player for sams Rythm qbs development be a cimini aka duntz move. Remember this is the guy who used to gush over Fitzpatrick. At least he didn’t go full on old white boomer SOJF tho and thinks we should retain Adams. 

My prediction by the way, all 3 are back. Take it to the bank. 

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/82077/why-jets-should-be-prepared-to-move-on-from-leveon-bell-robby-anderson

Do they not teach spelling in 7th grade?

[Integrity28]

Y’all got triggered quick over that boomer comment. Proving the point.

[rangerous]

i don't see where cimini is saying anything that hasn't been heard already.  his comments on all three players are right.

[greenwichjetfan]

Is it ironic that Boomer Esiason is the exact target demo for the Boomer insult? Or just a coincidence?

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, Integrity28 said:

Y’all got triggered quick over that boomer comment. Proving the point.

Works every time

 

[Warfish]

2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Y’all got triggered quick over that boomer comment. Proving the point.

Mocking an idiot =/= "Triggered" dude.

Of all people here at JN, I'd expect YOU to get that, lol.  

[kevinc855]

15 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

Why is boomer such an insult?

Something to do with wrecking our economy and destroying the planet 

[kevinc855]

8 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Robby "Grand Marquis" Anderson.

Print the shirts.

I would bye one  

[T0mShane]

Because I am a woke Gen Xer, I’d trade Jamal Adams in a millisecond and I wouldn’t give Anderson more than $10 mil per unless he puts on 15 pounds.

[greenwichjetfan]

1 minute ago, kevinc855 said:

Something to do with wrecking our economy and destroying the planet 

I think the biggest part of the insult is actually faulting the millennials for the above. 

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Because I am a woke Gen Xer, I’d trade Jamal Adams in a millisecond and I wouldn’t give Anderson more than $10 mil per unless he puts on 15 pounds.

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Because I am a woke Gen Xer, I’d trade Jamal Adams in a millisecond and I wouldn’t give Anderson more than $10 mil per unless he puts on 15 pounds.

Gen xers don’t have opinions. That’s your whole generations trademark 

[kevinc855]

25 minutes ago, jgb said:

I remember when age was respected as a proxy for experience and wisdom.

Old tired way of thinking. Welcome to the new world 

[Zachtomims47]

21 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Robbie is a useful though not great Wr.  He should be brought back but not if he wants too much money.

If his ask is too high he can go.

Bell?  I do not see anyway he leaves, Can;t cut him due to cao penalties.  No one is going o trade for him.  Teams do not pay backs that much money, especially coming off this pat year.

What if a team trades us a player (solid but average starter) and we pay half of the salary?

[ASH1962]

LMFAO, whenever I see a post by this Kevin kid, I think of Kevin Arnold wearing that old 1960's Jets jacket LMAO

[CTM]

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Welcome to the new world 

I'm sure it's in great hands.

[Big_Slick]

28 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

Why is boomer such an insult?

Just read or listen to the news, old white boomers are the cause of all evil.

[section314]

5 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

LMFAO, whenever I see a post by this Kevin kid, I think of Kevin Arnold wearing that old 1960's Jets jacket LMAO

And trying to get over on Winnie Cooper.

[JTJet]

38 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Why does anyone read this old boomers stuff anymore. He’s got SOJF written all over him. 
 

Getting rid of Robby, the marquise player

Not sure if Robby is into that kind of stuff, but ok Neophyte lol 

[section314]

Just now, Big_Slick said:

Just read or listen to the news, old white boomers are the cause of all evil.

Except when it's time to pay taxes.

[Jet Blast]

27 minutes ago, kelticwizard said:

It actually started out as a joke.  People over 50 or so are usually not quite up to the latest technology, like writing a check in front of a long line at the supermarket instead of using a credit card or even using a computer.  Lately seems to have escalated to more than that, though.

You should be careful when stereotyping because not everyone fits your perceptions. I know some folks "over 50" who happen to be VERY tech savvy, while I know others under 50 who can barely navigate their way around on a computer or even... dare I say it... a smartphone.

[CTM]

18 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

I think the biggest part of the insult is actually faulting the millennials for the above. 

Eh millenials have done plenty to help wreck the economy with thier flagrant debt fueled consumption.  The economy wrecking thing spans generations

[section314]

4 minutes ago, Jet Blast said:

You should be careful when stereotyping because not everyone fits your perceptions. I know some folks "over 50" who happen to be VERY tech savvy, while I know others under 50 who can barely navigate their way around on a computer or even... dare I say it... a smartphone.

A what? I am definitely one of the over 50 guys who is NOT tech savvy. Our tech guys at work used to refer to me as"job security."

[Greenbloodblitz]

30 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Ok, Millennial.

Robby will be back if the price is right.  He won't if it isn't.  He's a solid #2 WR.  He's not a #1 WR.  His price (for us) will need to reflect that.

"sams Rythm qbs development" or not.

What does his age or skin tone have to do with anything? 

Adams in a very good Safety, reasonable arguments can be made to retain him that don't require the opinion speaker's skin tone to be white or his age to be "boomer".  I think he should be moved, does that make me a non-old, non-white and/or non-boomer by default?

They could be.  I wouldn't bet on it.

 

Millennials have been predicted to be the least wealthy of any generation thus far. A bunch of smart alec punks eating hot pockets, and breakfast waffle tacos who never got punched in the face because everything's on video. The wimpiest generation ever bar none.

You would think with all of the                     "technology" this generation would have done something more than create great video games and Vape weed in their parents basement?

All of us Boomers think it's pretty funny that you can't count change back because you don't have a calculator and that you'll be 50 years old and your greatest accomplishment is being a waiter at McDonald's. LMFAO.

OMG what do you do when the electric goes out and you can't press the button with the picture of cheese on it!?