Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the bus 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the busBell is a stud ... Give him a competent OL and use him correctly in the passing game and he is gold.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 He needed to adjust his style earlier in the season. Hit the hole hard and fast. He started doing this a few weeks ago to some positive results. He’s not done yet and deserves another season with an improved line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Bell is a stud ... Give him a competent OL and use him correctly in the passing game and he is gold. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Problem is Gase has venom for the guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Jimmy 2 Times said: He needed to adjust his style earlier in the season. Hit the hole hard and fast. He started doing this a few weeks ago to some positive results. He’s not done yet and deserves another season with an improved line. Bell has one more season in him and for us actually be decent next year he needs to have a big year But Gase is smarter than everyone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the bus Show your work 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Bell is a stud ... Give him a competent OL and use him correctly in the passing game and he is gold. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk This still makes more sense than he suddenly became slow. Without a couple starting lineman Barkley became totally pedestrian against us when we played them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: This still makes more sense than he suddenly became slow. Without a couple starting lineman Barkley became totally pedestrian against us when we played them. Besides the OL and Gase stinking Bell was definitely playing hurt part of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Besides the OL and Gase stinking Bell was definitely playing hurt part of the season It’s possible. The rest of the team seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prestige Worldwide Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 I don't know how this is throwing someone under the bus. On what Bell meant to the team and how he interacted with teammates... He’s just one of the guys, man, just fit in, did what was asked, tried to do the right thing, tried to help us get first downs, score points, win games. That’s it. When we were transitioning with some of the linemen and stuff, he knew that we had to work on efficiency and we were going to lack some explosive plays and he did a good job just saying, “Alright, I know what you want, I know you want me to get four yards and just keep us ahead of schedule,” and that’s what he did. On how he can use Bell next year... I think that was a conversation we had a couple weeks ago, we talked about looking at some of the stuff they did in Pittsburgh and talking through some of the things he’s comfortable with in the run game, especially early in the off season of trying to focus on those types of runs, and pass game, and we both are like, we’ll be able to take a break and then when we come back we can really hone in on some of those things that maybe we missed or we did too much of that he wasn’t really comfortable with. You know, it’s one of those things that allows us to evaluate kind of what we did as an offense, and then I can go back to him and we can talk through that stuff when we get back in the Spring. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the bus This argument makes incorrect assumptions and false accusations. There is little evidence to support your claim and your phrasing fails to show an understanding of other factors that may have led to your conclusion. Rework your thesis using evidence for full credit. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Prestige Worldwide said: I don't know how this is throwing someone under the bus. On what Bell meant to the team and how he interacted with teammates... He’s just one of the guys, man, just fit in, did what was asked, tried to do the right thing, tried to help us get first downs, score points, win games. That’s it. When we were transitioning with some of the linemen and stuff, he knew that we had to work on efficiency and we were going to lack some explosive plays and he did a good job just saying, “Alright, I know what you want, I know you want me to get four yards and just keep us ahead of schedule,” and that’s what he did. On how he can use Bell next year... I think that was a conversation we had a couple weeks ago, we talked about looking at some of the stuff they did in Pittsburgh and talking through some of the things he’s comfortable with in the run game, especially early in the off season of trying to focus on those types of runs, and pass game, and we both are like, we’ll be able to take a break and then when we come back we can really hone in on some of those things that maybe we missed or we did too much of that he wasn’t really comfortable with. You know, it’s one of those things that allows us to evaluate kind of what we did as an offense, and then I can go back to him and we can talk through that stuff when we get back in the Spring. Yeah ok Gase in that press conference after the last game seemed sooooo enthused over Bell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, kdels62 said: This argument makes incorrect assumptions and false accusations. There is little evidence to support your claim and your phrasing fails to show an understanding of other factors that may have led to your conclusion. Rework your thesis using evidence for full credit. I’m just saying I’m hearing now that we need to trade Bell for chump change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the bus Gase didn't throw him under the bus, he didn't want to respond to that ass hole Manish. Later when a reputable writer asked about Bell, he said they met and were going to study tapes from his days in Pittsburgh. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestige Worldwide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yeah ok Gase in that press conference after the last game seemed sooooo enthused over Bell Let's be honest, none of Gases pressers are ever enthusiastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I don't think Bell is coming back next year. Joe D will probably want to put his stamp on the team and Bell is a Macc FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Gase didn't throw him under the bus, he didn't want to respond to that ass hole Manish. Later when a reputable writer asked about Bell, he said they met and were going to study tapes from his days in Pittsburgh. his response to that question was totally out of line 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I don't think Bell is coming back next year. Joe D will probably want to put his stamp on the team and Bell is a Macc FA. Get ready for 4-12 and another bottom 3 ranked offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Gase has no choice Bell is here to stay. JD needs to draft a young rookie stud RB like Etienne so we have a 1-2 punch like other successful NFL teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yeah ok Gase in that press conference after the last game seemed sooooo enthused over Bell Other reporters stated it was more about who asked the question than who the question was about. Hop on Twitter and get caught up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Jetworks said: Other reporters stated it was more about who asked the question than who the question was about. Hop on Twitter and get caught up. Did you hear what he actually said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Gase has no choice Bell is here to stay. JD needs to draft a young rookie stud RB like Etienne so we have a 1-2 punch like other successful NFL teams. And that’s the problem Gase despises Bell yet we can’t even trade him it’s gonna get ugly before the season even starts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Did you hear what he actually said Yes everyone did. There was nothing wrong with it. Manish was asking the question and he hates Gase, so in turn Gase doesnt like Manish, so he gave him a short non answer to be done with him. Too many people knocking Gases intelligence for silly stuff like this. I would say Gase is smart personally. He is thinking in long term, unlike most of us fans that see in short term. Which would you rather have? - Bell for 1 maybe 2 more years of good production. Or - The assets from a Bell trade, that you can use to draft areas of need with a longer shelf life? Example: 6-7 years of a good lineman. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Bell was excruciatingly slow this year. In the pre-season he looked to have had the burst I was expecting but something happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestige Worldwide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Did you hear what he actually said Yeah, he said hes under contract. Hes not in charge of personnel, later in the press conference he said personnel meetings will be held Thursday and Friday. Then he said he will see him and talk through things in the spring. Nothing in those words have him throwing bell under the bus, or any hint of him despising bell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I just don’t see the point in getting rid of Bell, unless he's secretly been a massive dick behind the scenes. You probably aren’t getting more than a 4th round pick if you trade him, would have to eat a good portion of his salary, and would just be creating another hole on the team. Even if he has lost a step, he’s still a terrific receiver out of the backfield and very good in pass protection. Might as well keep him for another year and see what he looks like behind an improved OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 36 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Did you hear what he actually said Yes, and I read it as well. Do you know what level of douchiness you have to achieve for a fellow reporter to publicly speculate that you were the issue? And on top of it he got outed as the likely source of the Gase burner account. Seriously, nothing to see here other than Manish doing Manish things. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the bus Gase refused to respond to Mehta and told him to go ask Douglas. He won't respond to Mehta. And this message board intertprets it as "throwing Bell under the bus". Christ. This message board. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Did you hear what he actually said yes. And it was crystal clear. Here is the paraphrase: "Manish, since you are a huge d i c k and have been sabotaging me since day 1 on the job, take your question and shove it. Go ask Douglas." 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Underutilized in passing game for sure, but I do think hes lost something and is no longer an elite back. No reason to move him though as I dont think he'll fetch much, but if someone did offer an early 3+ I'd do it in a second 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 47 minutes ago, Philc1 said: his response to that question was totally out of line no, it wasn't. In fact it was way more polite than it should have been. "Go ask Douglas tomorrow" = "I don't want to respond to someone who is on a mission to sabotage me, so GFY Manish" I may not like Gase as a HC, but I am fully behind Gase's response to Weasel Manish. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 bell has been an elite RB in this league-Gase runs the worst offense in the league-In addition to Gase running a bad offense in Miami he got terrible production out of some running backs that have done very well once out of the Gase system 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Bell has one more season in him and for us actually be decent next year he needs to have a big year But Gase is smarter than everyone You know what would be smart? To continue to run Bell into a line that cant open a hole for him, to keep putting your QB in 2nd and 3rd and long situations. Thats what you wanted to see, wanted Darnold to see. Its one thing to bitch and moan and start one Gase sucks thread after another, its another to actually know what you're bitching about 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Did you hear what he actually said Everyone not named Philc1 did. Well Philc1 and Manish... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Philc1 said: I’m hearing a lot of flip flopping on Leveon Bell coming from the same people who pounded the table and were screaming for him 6 months ago what happened besides Gase publicly throwing him under the bus You know what is really crazy is there is all the tape in the world. Week 2 or whatever it was, where bell was the only guy on the field that was playing hard and looked like NFL starting quality player. He has every week done everything right and done what is asked of him. We are to believe bell has lost a step, Darnold is just not getting the the system or making mistakes. Gase is the ******* problem. He is a terrible coach. I swear I never thought it could be worse than bowles , the ny jets were like hold my beer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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