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I never understood the need for a luxury car.  To me, a car is nothing more than a tool too get me from one point to another.  I have had luxury cars in the past -- never a BMW, but I have owned an Audi & Mercedes.  Then when we had kids and I needed to cut back, we traded in the Mercedes and went to a Saturn.  Since then, I have had a Camry and most recently a used Altima, which I bought 6 years ago.  My kids are both over 25 now.  3 sedans in 25+ years.  They have always gotten me where I need to go.  Paid the Altima off in 36 months.  Have been driving it with no payments for last 3 years. 

I have no interest in ever buying or leasing a luxury car again.

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Planning to buy a used car this weekend.  Been checking out Carmax, looking at 2017-18 Altimas, Camrys, Malibu, etc.  Came across a 2016 BMW 320i with less than 20K miles on it for same price as these other cars.  Checked out the vehicle history report, and no issues/accidents or other concerns reported.  Anything I should know about the 320i -- pricing seems too good to be true.  @SAR I, or anyone elsse have any comments about the 320i before I head out tomorrow with intent of buying it.

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4 minutes ago, Apache 51 said:

When I used to buy a used car, sometimes BMW's, I had my mechanic check it out put it up on a lift check compression, brakes, look for leaks, what it might need money wise, brakes tires etc.., I would give him a $50. Worth it, used cars are a huge market. Don't forget if it's sounds like it's to good to be true, then well you know. Good Luck.

 

 

Thanks.  Will defintiely have it checked out.  Carmax gives you 7 days to check it out or return for full refund.  Would do that with any used car I buy.

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55 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Happy to help.

The 320i is the least expensive 3 Series and if memory serves correctly wasn't available with many options in 2016.  Understand that a BMW is a truly a-la-carte car experience and to get it to "drive like a BMW" it needs a Sport suspension or the Adaptive M-Suspension, neither of which I believe came on the 320i.  People see the $299 lease special on TV and that's fine, it's still a great car in many ways, but that same 3 Series with the luxury package, convenience package, and all-important Sport/M-Sport package drive that price up to $599.  Navigation, satellite radio, leather seats, heated seats, xenon headlights, CarPlay, iPhone integration, fold-down rear seat, auto-dimming mirrors, these features probably aren't on this car.

So......for a low price and with those low miles, if you like the look of the car and the panache of the BMW badge and are okay with it handling at 80% of capability and having 50% of the luxury features, go for it, you'll love it.  But if you want a tricked-out luxury car with all the toys and leather and better handling, you'll likely be disappointed.  Compared to a Malibu and Altima its much better looking and more refined but you'd likely shake your head at the fact that the BMW comes with vinyl seats and has no garage door opener.

Take a test drive.  Pay close attention to what features are/aren't on the car.  Let us know how it went.

SAR I

Thanks.  I appreciate the feedback.

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9 hours ago, The Crimson King said:

Don't forget that BMW's are a fortune to maintain compared to other vehicle. 

Another thing to test on the 320i is the autostart system. Your engine shuts off at stop lights and restarts when you take your foot off the brake. Service would give you these as loaner cars and it drove me nuts.  

Also, BMW had long since strayed from their strength and leaned more towards luxury by 2016. Aspects that made these cars the "drivers" cars were softened like steering and the chassis. The last competitive sports car they made was in 2002. Even the M's were unbalanced. After a long long run they disappeared from the C&D 10 best list and lived solely on rep.  See Don Sherman's article from 2016:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15346236/steer-me-feel-me-exploring-why-bmws-no-longer-excel-in-steering-feel/

I love this brand. I am holding onto an older model because they just cannot match the feel from back then. When that goes, I am moving onto another marque. Pained me what Bangle did to the company and it hasn't recovered yet. 

EDIT:

and here's an article on the stop-start issue:

https://www.autonews.com/article/20130928/BLOG06/130929889/why-this-bmw-s-stop-start-is-a-non-starter

Thanks for the info.  I had read a bit about the start-stop issue and from what I understand, that feature can be disabled if you don't like it.  It was the one negative about the '16 320i that I have read about over the past few days. The car seems to be pretty well rated aside from that issue, and if it bothers me, I will take it in and have it diabled (going to confirm today that it can be done; I know I saw it mentioned in one of the articles I have read.

I understand the higher maintenance cost -- I have driven Audi and Mercedes in the past, just not recently, so the higher upkeep costs won't shock me.

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8 hours ago, Maxman said:

Good luck.

I just bought a used car for my son who turned 17. Lucky for me @lawngnome o-line was selling a nice Honda Accord and we bought it from him. My son is loving life.

I looked all over Facebook Marketplace and it is super sketchy out there. Met one person to look at a car and I thought I was going to end up in the trunk. Two Russian guys came out. They made Ivan Drago look small.

Thanks.  I am buying the new car for me and handing my old one, an Altima, over to my daughter-in-law.  I hate the hassle of car buying, I do enough negotiating of deals and Monday thru Friday (nothing to do with cars), that I am looking for an easy, hassle free experience, which is why I am going to CarMax.  Don't want to deal with individuals, used car lots or traditional auto dealers.

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1 hour ago, The Crimson King said:

Did you scour sites like Edmunds and Kelly? 

The good thing about cars is that you have access to a boatload of reviews and statistical detail that means something. Weed through whatever fanboy stuff you find (and there tends to be much less than most things) and you get some a great amount of useful information. 

 

Read the reviews on Edmunds.  Both their review and customer reviews.  Pretty much confirms what both you and @SAR I have said.  Two drabacks are the automatic start and stop (which can be disabled) and limited option packages.  But as it is a used car, if I am happy with the options it comes with, the packages available don't really matter.  Other than these issues, reviews were pretty positive.

I really do apprecaite the feedback from you guys.  It helps explain why this particular car is priced as low as it is.

Thanks.

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