Beerfish Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lith said: Only way that I would advocate thinking about a trade up would be if we got our OT in R1, and there is a run on WRs in early R2. I want to see us come out of this draft with a top end talent at both OT and WR. I would be okay if JD gave up the 2nd 3 or preferably our 4 to go get a guy he really likes rather than wait around for whomever is left.. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I foresee us filling solidly 4 holes with those first 4 picks. Even if we get our preferred OT at 11 I still want at least one more olineman in the top 4 picks. We have so many holes. We badly need a CB, an edge guy, at least two olineman (I hope we take 3 in the draft) and as noted at least two WRs. The Wr we target in a trade up would have to be a lot better than guys that just fall to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Pre-Combine...as of Feb 7th, does anyone want to list their Top 10 WRs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Pre-Combine...as of Feb 7th, does anyone want to list their Top 10 WRs? Nope, because then there will be no chance of any of them ending up being a Jet. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Antonio Gandy Golden!!! That's who I want. Paired with Laviska Shenault or Michael Pittman jr. Would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Jauan Jennings is my newest obsession and I’m smitten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sec101row23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 So I’m hearing my boy Tee Higgins isn’t going to run well at the combine, at least nothing eye opening. Will be interesting to see. He could get pushed into the top of the 2nd, could he be there at 48? I’d say unlikely, but boy it would be nice if he fell there. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: So I’m hearing my boy Tee Higgins isn’t going to run well at the combine, at least nothing eye opening. Will be interesting to see. He could get pushed into the top of the 2nd, could he be there at 48? I’d say unlikely, but boy it would be nice if he fell there. No shot in hell, unless Macc is drafting for all 32 teams.Won't make it past #20. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, section314 said: No shot in hell, unless Macc is drafting for all 32 teams.Won't make it past #20. Yea. More wishful thinking on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, sec101row23 said: Yea. More wishful thinking on my part. Think about this......there's only about 5-6 teams that could draft Tee that have a better QB than who he currently is playing with.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, section314 said: Think about this......there's only about 5-6 teams that could draft Tee that have a better QB than who he currently is playing with.? He won’t be a Jet, I know this, but I have irrational hope that he will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: He won’t be a Jet, I know this, but I have irrational hope that he will be. Would love it. I don't remember Al Toon being a 4.4 type of guy, but he got open all the time and caught everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, section314 said: Would love it. I don't remember Al Toon being a 4.4 type of guy, but he got open all the time and caught everything. True. A.J. Green ran 4.5 at his combine. Tee is so much like A.J was coming out of college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: True. A.J. Green ran 4.5 at his combine. Tee is so much like A.J was coming out of college. Yes....he played with Stafford, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, section314 said: Yes....he played with Stafford, right? Only his freshman year I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, section314 said: Yes....he played with Stafford, right? 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: Only his freshman year I believe. Yup. Freshman season with Stafford, Junior season with Aaron Murray. And a year with the immortal Joe Cox sandwiched in between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, section314 said: No shot in hell, unless Macc is drafting for all 32 teams.Won't make it past #20. I agree, but mocks are interesting right now. I was seeing Tee Higgins fairly consistently going as the 4th WR after Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs in most mocks, right around the Shenault area late in Round 1. Now he's somewhere either ahead or even behind guys like Justin Jefferson, Jalen Reagor, Brandon Ayuik, etc. I think he could be as high as a Top 20 pick or as low as #47 (knowing our luck!!!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I agree, but mocks are interesting right now. I was seeing Tee Higgins fairly consistently going as the 4th WR after Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs in most mocks, right around the Shenault area late in Round 1. Now he's somewhere either ahead or even behind guys like Justin Jefferson, Jalen Reagor, Brandon Ayuik, etc. I think he could be as high as a Top 20 pick or as low as #47 (knowing our luck!!!) I think recently a lot of receivers get too much hype and are slotted and mocked way higher than they actually go. Last year was a perfect example of this. This years depth and quality is different, but I still think there are too many guys with first round hype right now. Are 6 WRs going to go in the first? That seems like a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I think recently a lot of receivers get too much hype and are slotted and mocked way higher than they actually go. Last year was a perfect example of this. This years depth and quality is different, but I still think there are too many guys with first round hype right now. Are 6 WRs going to go in the first? That seems like a lot. Lamb, Jeudy and Ruggs seem like locks for Round 1. Given the Eagles, Patriots and other WR-needy teams picking late in the 1st I could see one or two more going....probably two out of Shenault, Higgins, Reagor, Jefferson. (Again, this is all pre-Combine speculation.) Just did a mock where Higgins actually went 53rd to the Eagles with Hamler, Jefferson and Ayuik all going a few picks before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 10 hours ago, sec101row23 said: So I’m hearing my boy Tee Higgins isn’t going to run well at the combine, at least nothing eye opening. Will be interesting to see. He could get pushed into the top of the 2nd, could he be there at 48? I’d say unlikely, but boy it would be nice if he fell there. I think Higgins' stock is pretty stable. If he slides into day 2, it'll be the shiny new toy syndrome... couple guys might light it up elsewhere and draw some serious FOMO around the league.... still making it to pick #33, is not the same as making it to pick #48. I think @jetstream23 asked how many WRs could go before #48, and you indirectly postulated 8 might the number.... i'd say that's about right. Maybe on the high end... you're gonna see 4 QBs probably, 2-3 RBs/TEs, 10 DBs, 10+10 in the trenches on both sides of the ball... So yea, 7-8 is quite possible. Gone by #50 for sure Jeudy Lamb Higgins Jefferson Ruggs Mims KJ Hill Aiyuk Gone by #100 Reagor Shenault Claypool AGG Pittman Edwards I. Hodgins Hamler Orbiting/fluid V Jefferson G Davis E Emezie C Johnson T Johnson Q Davis J Jennings D Duvernay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 With Anderson likely gone in FA I’m guessing the team targets one of the speed guys early... maybe Shenault in round 2 or Duvernay in the 3rd seem like realistic landing spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Paradis said: Gone by #50 for sure Jeudy Lamb Higgins Jefferson Ruggs Mims KJ Hill Aiyuk My loves, likes and meh above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Paradis said: Gone by #100 Reagor Shenault Claypool AGG Pittman Edwards I. Hodgins Hamler Orbiting/fluid V Jefferson G Davis E Emezie C Johnson T Johnson Q Davis J Jennings D Duvernay And this is why it could be disaster to wait until R3 and R4 to address WR. The top, immediate impact guys will be gone. As will some of the tier 2/3 guys -- likely Shenault and Reagor will be gone by the time we are on the board in 3. Maybe a couple of other guys too. We will be looking at talented developmental players or safe high floor low ceiling prospects. We need to invest early in WR. If not at 11, then at 48. I usually get killed for saying this, but a trade up from 48 should be in play in R2, depending on how the draft falls. If we need to give up a 4 to move up 4 or 5 spots to get a first tier guy that we really like, then should be a possibility. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lith said: And this is why it could be disaster to wait until R3 and R4 to address WR. The top, immediate impact guys will be gone. As will some of the tier 2/3 guys -- likely Shenault and Reagor will be gone by the time we are on the board in 3. Maybe a couple of other guys too. We will be looking at talented developmental players or safe high floor low ceiling prospects. We need to invest early in WR. If not at 11, then at 48. I usually get killed for saying this, but a trade up from 48 should be in play in R2, depending on how the draft falls. If we need to give up a 4 to move up 4 or 5 spots to get a first tier guy that we really like, then should be a possibility. Agree 1000000000%. If it’s OT at 11, then 48 NEEDS to be a WR. I wouldn’t object if they flipped one of the 3rd round picks to move up from 48. I would prefer higher quality in the second over quantity. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Best WR class since ‘14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Agree 1000000000%. If it’s OT at 11, then 48 NEEDS to be a WR. I wouldn’t object if they flipped one of the 3rd round picks to move up from 48. I would prefer higher quality in the second over quantity. Or just trade Adams for a first draft a stud like Becton at 11 then a WR like Lamb or Ruggs later in rd 1 See? Everyone wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm dying to see the 40 times on these guys. It might reshuffle my whole list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 8:08 AM, sec101row23 said: So I’m hearing my boy Tee Higgins isn’t going to run well at the combine, at least nothing eye opening. Will be interesting to see. He could get pushed into the top of the 2nd, could he be there at 48? I’d say unlikely, but boy it would be nice if he fell there. What do we need for that to happen? 4.6? We saw him get open including deep for years. I think we need a few other guys to run really well to push him that far to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: What do we need for that to happen? 4.6? We saw him get open including deep for years. I think we need a few other guys to run really well to push him that far to us. 4.6 would be a disaster for Tee, doubtful he runs that slow. Most likely he’s right around 4.52. If he runs sub 4.5, he won’t get past Green Bay at 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Deep class, resist the urge to trade up. Tier 3 guys are not that far off and in some cases will be better than tier 2 guys from the list above. The class is good but even with the very top guys I see no must haves. The only way I can be in favour of a trade up in round two is if we trade down in round 1. We need all of our picks and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 A guy that I like that nobody's really talking about is Lawrence Cager. Mainly because he's dealt with a lot of injuries. But his size, athleticism, and ability to make the toughest of contested catches has me impressed. He could be a Day 3 steal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 hours ago, sec101row23 said: Agree 1000000000%. If it’s OT at 11, then 48 NEEDS to be a WR. I wouldn’t object if they flipped one of the 3rd round picks to move up from 48. I would prefer higher quality in the second over quantity. If the jets let Anderson walk, then that money will likely be reallocated to the OL in FA, and if Douglas wants grade A weapons for darnold, then the #11 pick could well be used on a wr if he thinks he’s getting an elite wr talent on a rookie deal. They could still draft tackles in the 2nd and/or 3rd round who would probably still be good prospects to develop who could start either later in 2020 or next year. But the Robbie Anderson decision seems to be one that starts a domino effect since it would be obvious that they will need several new weapons on that offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Augustiniak said: If the jets let Anderson walk, then that money will likely be reallocated to the OL in FA, and if Douglas wants grade A weapons for darnold, then the #11 pick could well be used on a wr if he thinks he’s getting an elite wr talent on a rookie deal. They could still draft tackles in the 2nd and/or 3rd round who would probably still be good prospects to develop who could start either later in 2020 or next year. But the Robbie Anderson decision seems to be one that starts a domino effect since it would be obvious that they will need several new weapons on that offense. This is also a very slow team without RA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, cant wait said: This is also a very slow team without RA It’s a slow team even with RA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Lets hope Shenault is taken prior to pick 48, as that will push a better WR down the list. The intriguing guys to me, if we wait are KJ Hamler and Pittman. Those 2 could be an excellent pairing of size and speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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