joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Jamal Adams All-Pro only representative from the NY Jets and NY Giants. Nice job Jamal Adams pay no mind to the haters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Mahomes threw for 50 TDs last season and is in the SB next week. Jamal averages less than 1 INT per season, has led his team to 16 wins over 3 seasons, and is busy going full self-promotion at a meaningless Pro Bowl that a lot of players skip. But sure, those 2 situations are exactly the same. KC wouldn’t accept a decade’s worth of first rounders for Mahomes. We just want a 1st & 3rd. WE cannot control the draft pick that was made. Sure MOST of us wanted Patrick Mahomes but NOT all. Whats done is done stop crying. STOP the HATE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2020 Blah blah blah joewilly post blah blah blah not real fans blah blah blah shirtless men 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Blah blah blah joewilly post blah blah blah not real fans blah blah blah shirtless men Yada yada yada look at me the wanna be cool kid piling up on Jamal Adams because all the supposed cool kids are. You like shirtless men don't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 My hope is JD tears up Adams rookie contract and signs him long term this off-season. Cut to the chase. Get him long term and get an early discount in the process. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: My hope is JD tears up Adams rookie contract and signs him long term this off-season. Cut to the chase. Get him long term and get an early discount in the process. Exactly you build a winning team around players like Jamal Adams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Mahomes threw for 50 TDs last season and is in the SB next week. Jamal averages less than 1 INT per season, has led his team to 16 wins over 3 seasons, and is busy going full self-promotion at a meaningless Pro Bowl that a lot of players skip. But sure, those 2 situations are exactly the same. KC wouldn’t accept a decade’s worth of first rounders for Mahomes. We just want a 1st & 3rd. First of all...sarcasm. Second....YOU want a 1st and a 3rd. For me, it depends on what those picks are and if they're not top-half, I don't want 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted January 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Jamal Adams All-Pro only representative from the NY Jets and NY Giants. Nice job Jamal Adams pay no mind to the haters. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton Beaver Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:15 PM, jetstream23 said: She's a multi-tasker And also airtight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Exactly you build a winning team around players like Jamal Adams. He’s never won a ******* thing 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He’s never won a ******* thing He's never mocked a helicopter crash that people were killed in I can assure you that. You have sunken to an all-time level of low today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: He's never mocked a helicopter crash that people were killed in I can assure you that. He’s not pro-Smush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, T0mShane said: He’s not pro-Smush Dude go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 hours ago, NYJ1 said: My hope is JD tears up Adams rookie contract and signs him long term this off-season. Cut to the chase. Get him long term and get an early discount in the process. Imagine thinking the guy who got offended about rumors giving the Jets an early discount. Imagine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Imagine thinking the guy who got offended about rumors giving the Jets an early discount. Imagine. Probably give the Jets a 30% discount just for the honor of wearing The Green 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: I guess this thread is now about penises? Isn’t Jamal’s middle name Dick? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 12:38 AM, Jet Nut said: This is the way of thinking for anyone with any sense. Todays stupid list of positions that don't help you win list. C DT G S FS ILB 6 out of 22 positions aren't really needed to win? Who did I miss? Almost as ridiculous of stating that the reason the Jets aren't winners is because of Jamal, Leo and Quinnen. Sure, that's it in a nutshell. Remember though, all teams have two Guards, and between DT and ILB you have three of these whether 3-4 or 4-3. So that's 6 positions, but 8 players, out of 22. A team with JAGs at DT, ILB / MLB and S will get run on again and again. And again. It may be a passing league, but as SF showed against GB, if the opponent knows you're running it and can't stop it, why bother passing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, jamesr said: Remember though, all teams have two Guards, and between DT and ILB you have three of these whether 3-4 or 4-3. So that's 6 positions, but 8 players, out of 22. A team with JAGs at DT, ILB / MLB and S will get run on again and again. And again. It may be a passing league, but as SF showed against GB, if the opponent knows you're running it and can't stop it, why bother passing? Thanks, Im slipping. Its so ridiculous. Look at the teams that have won, look at the players who've played at the positions. Mike Simngletary didnt help the Bears? Ray Lewis? Palomala? Ed Reed? I can go on and on. Jamal Adams does nothing to help us win. Thats all I hear. If he were off the team, no change. He goes down in the 1st series against the Bengals and the D plays like shlt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 When do you guys think that the All Pro Best Safety in the league, gets his 1st career, non-garbage time interception? Will it be Year 4? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, TeddEY said: When do you guys think that the All Pro Best Safety in the league, gets his 1st career, non-garbage time interception? Will it be Year 4? You guys? By that you mean those of us who know he makes the Jets D a better unit? Who know he makes the Jets a better team? Who don't trash a Jets player universally praised for his play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: You guys? By that you mean those of us who know he makes the Jets D a better unit? Who know he makes the Jets a better team? Who don't trash a Jets player universally praised for his play? I mean, anyone reading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I mean, anyone reading. Two mistakes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 19 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Exactly you build a winning team around players like Jamal Adams. What’s our record since he was drafted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, TeddEY said: When do you guys think that the All Pro Best Safety in the league, gets his 1st career, non-garbage time interception? Will it be Year 4? Hopefully he will do it on the Cowboys after they traded us a first and a third for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: You guys? By that you mean those of us who know he makes the Jets D a better unit? Who know he makes the Jets a better team? Who don't trash a Jets player universally praised for his play? And no one is denying that the Jets are improved with the presence of Jamal Adams. That's not really the question. The question is, are the Jets improved enough to justify his forthcoming expense, or are the better enough not to try and trade him to improve in areas that might make the team more meaningfully better, as 3-years of "THE BEST SAFETY IN ALL THE LAND" has not produced a good team or a good defense or, very many wins. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, TeddEY said: And no one is denying that the Jets are improved with the presence of Jamal Adams. That's not really the question. The question is, are the Jets improved enough to justify his forthcoming expense, or are the better enough not to try and trade him to improve in areas that might make the team more meaningfully better, as 3-years of "THE BEST SAFETY IN ALL THE LAND" has not produced a good team or a good defense or, very many wins. This has to be the most pointless question ever. The team hasn't won, he's on the team, therefore he's not needed. Wouldn't it make a difference if I could somehow prove that they would have won even fewer games without him? But you want to question how much he'd add in the way of wins on a better roster? The idea that any one player, outside of QB would make the teams he's played on better in the way of wins and losses better is wrong. And he actually was a part of a pretty good defense. Without a star, an all pro player other than Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: This has to be the most pointless question ever. The team hasn't won, he's on the team, therefore he's not needed. Wouldn't it make a difference if I could somehow prove that they would have won even fewer games without him? But you want to question how much he'd add in the way of wins on a better roster? The idea that any one player, outside of QB would make the teams he's played on better in the way of wins and losses better is wrong. I saw an earlier post of yours dismissing positional value entirely. As such, I completely understand your take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I saw an earlier post of yours dismissing positional value entirely. As such, I completely understand your take. No, I question the idea that those positions are meaningless in the grand scheme of things and those positions don't add to the quality and efficiency of a roster. There no denying that some positions influence games more than others, The idea that it means those positions/players aren't important or cant be assets to a team actually pretty funny and a lot of BS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: No, I question the idea that those positions are meaningless in the grand scheme of things and those positions don't add to the quality and efficiency of a roster. There no denying that some positions influence games more than others, The idea that it means those positions/players aren't important or cant be assets to a team actually pretty funny and a lot of BS If you want to use words like "meaningless," then sure, it's again, easy to dismiss. No one is saying any position is "meaningless," or if they are, they're doing so in the same hyperbolic way. However, the question remains, is it worth devoting a significant percentage of your resources, in this case, salary cap dollars, to someone who brings what Jamal Adams does to a team. To me, the answer is unequivocally no. Now, factor in that we may be able to get another resource for him today, that could be at one of those "positions [that] influence games more than others," and I'd be on board to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: What’s our record since he was drafted? So its Jamal Adams fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: If you want to use words like "meaningless," then sure, it's again, easy to dismiss. No one is saying any position is "meaningless," or if they are, they're doing so in the same hyperbolic way. However, the question remains, is it worth devoting a significant percentage of your resources, in this case, salary cap dollars, to someone who brings what Jamal Adams does to a team. To me, the answer is unequivocally no. Now, factor in that we may be able to get another resource for him today, that could be at one of those "positions [that] influence games more than others," and I'd be on board to do that. Now we’re onto finances. To me yes, he’d be worthwhile investment. I’ve heard over and over the position isn’t highly comped. I’m crazy, don’t cringe at the thought of paying good players what they’re worth. I cringe at paying players who aren’t worth what they’re asking. The top pay for a top player already here, who we know and have seen him play at the level that he has? Yeah, I pay him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: Now we’re onto finances. To me yes, he’d be worthwhile investment. I’ve heard over and over the position isn’t highly comped. I’m crazy, don’t cringe at the thought of paying good players what they’re worth. I cringe at paying players who aren’t worth what they’re asking. The top pay for a top player already here, who we know and have seen him play at the level that he has? Yeah, I pay him. It’s always been finances. It’s a salary cap league. If it weren’t, there’d be no talk outside of the colossal mistake that was drafting him over Mahommes/Watson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 18 hours ago, T0mShane said: He’s not pro-Smush Apparently not anymore. I was totally disappointed that he did not assault a mascot this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: So its Jamal Adams fault. No I’m just pointing out he’s a tradeable asset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: No I’m just pointing out he’s a tradeable asset Yes because we have so many other players as good as him if not better, I must have missed them all in the Pro-Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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