Popular Post nycdan Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 The fifth year option on players selected outside the top-10 picks in the first round is quite a bit lower than the top-10. From nfl.com: Quote Fifth-year option: Each player selected in the first round of the NFL draft has a team option for a fifth season automatically included in his contract, which extends the four-year rookie contract to a fifth season. The salary for the fifth-year option is broken into two-tiers. The top 10 picks of the draft receive an average of the top 10 prior-year salaries at his position. Picks 11-32 receive the average of the 3rd-25th prior-year salaries at his position. Teams must exercise this option in the time after the conclusion of the player's third regular season and prior to May 3 of the following League Year. When exercised, the option is guaranteed for injury only. If the player remains on the roster at the start of the League Year of his option season, it becomes fully guaranteed (skill, cap and injury). Examples: - Amari Cooper (fourth overall in 2015 Draft): $13.924 million in 2019. - Nelson Agholor (20th overall in 2015 Draft): $9.387 million in 2019. So if we happen to draft a player worth keeping around for that long, and we do end up using the fifth-year option, it will be substantially cheaper than the player drafted immediately ahead of us. Even if we don't use the option, it gives the team a bit more leverage in contact extensions. Let the wild rumpus begin! 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jets723 Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Again, OL or WR. There are 3 OL at least to be picked high, not sure if any will get past the top 10 and fall to us, but that would be my first preference and then maybe get the WR in round 2 since this is a deeper draft at WR then it is at OL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to Agreed. 11 could end up being a sweet spot. I’d really like to end up with another pick before April rolls around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: Again, OL or WR. There are 3 OL at least to be picked high, not sure if any will get past the top 10 and fall to us, but that would be my first preference and then maybe get the WR in round 2 since this is a deeper draft at WR then it is at OL. The current consensus is that there are 5 players who would be very valuable to the Jets (WRs Lamb and Jeudy, OTs Wirfs, Thomas, Wills). There are even a few more palatable guys after that who would only be a minor reach (ex. Tee Higgins, maybe Austin Jackson, Henry Ruggs). The Jets will have options and won't be stuck in No Man's land without a draftable prospect on the Board. Only thing I'll push back on in your statement is the very last part. WR may be deeper but it really isn't by much IMO. There are a lot of Tier 2 and Tier 3 OTs in this draft. Guys like Becton, Jackson, Prince Wanogho, Josh Jones, Trey Adams....they are the same caliber of OT as guys like WRs Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, etc. JMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Jet fans have to be prepared for the top 3 OTs to be gone, Jeudy and Lamb to be gone and the Jets to be staring at Epenesa as the top prospect on the board at a position of need. Dude is a beast and once all is said and done I would not be completely against drafting him if we committed to addressing the offense in Rd. 2 and 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, PepPep said: Jet fans have to be prepared for the top 3 OTs to be gone, Jeudy and Lamb to be gone and the Jets to be staring at Epenesa as the top prospect on the board at a position of need. Dude is a beast and once all is said and done I would not be completely against drafting him if we committed to addressing the offense in Rd. 2 and 3. If the Jets don't draft an OL or a WR in the first round, this board with collapse the internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 it almost has to be OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Don't trade Adams. and for the love of god, don't draft another defensive tackle aka best player in the draft. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, PepPep said: Jet fans have to be prepared for the top 3 OTs to be gone, Jeudy and Lamb to be gone and the Jets to be staring at Epenesa as the top prospect on the board at a position of need. Dude is a beast and once all is said and done I would not be completely against drafting him if we committed to addressing the offense in Rd. 2 and 3. I don't disagree with this. Just wishing for the QB hype to be in full affect come draft and some teams trading up for a 2nd tier Qbs on the rise (if any) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'd be disappointed if we took a WR at 11. The need at OL and WR is not the same. It's not even in the same ball park. Improving the OL will make whatever WRs we have better. We need to build from the inside out on offense. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, nycdan said: The fifth year option on players selected outside the top-10 picks in the first round is quite a bit lower than the top-10. From nfl.com: So if we happen to draft a player worth keeping around for that long, and we do end up using the fifth-year option, it will be substantially cheaper than the player drafted immediately ahead of us. Even if we don't use the option, it gives the team a bit more leverage in contact extensions. Let the wild rumpus begin! All the more reason to use this pick on a high-dollar position. But that leverage only exists if the new GM is proactive enough to ink these new extensions before the players' dollars get up there, and any incentive to take a little less is gone. Then again it's not known if this system/calculation will return as-is under a new CBA that starts in 2021 (though it seems likely, as there isn't a lot of uproar over it except maybe for RBs picked #11-32). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: All the more reason to use this pick on a high-dollar position. But that leverage only exists if the new GM is proactive enough to ink these new extensions before the players' dollars get up there, and any incentive to take a little less is gone. Then again it's not known if this system/calculation will return as-is under a new CBA that starts in 2021 (though it seems likely, as there isn't a lot of uproar over it except maybe for RBs picked #11-32). Agreed. I think OT and WR are both big-money positions though so hopefully we are good there. Also, even if the CBA changes, I don't know if it is retroactive to contracts signed under the previous (current) CBA so we should be fine regardless. In any case, drafting a good player would be a good place to start, unfamiliar as that might be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Who do you rather have amari cooper or Nelson agholor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2jets Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I honestly wouldn't even question Joe Douglass if all of draft picks were OL. Haha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, Copernicus said: I don't disagree with this. Just wishing for the QB hype to be in full affect come draft and some teams trading up for a 2nd tier Qbs on the rise (if any) No, I truly believe one of Wirfs, Wills, A.Thomas, Jeudy or Lamb will somehow fall to the Jets at 11. I'm thinking right now it will come down to Wirfs or Wills and it will just depend on who the Browns prefer b/c I think they will take one of them. I still believe A.Thomas will go in the top 5, probably to the Giants. If I were to guess I'd say the Jets end up with Wirfs. If he is gone too, probably Lamb. Epenesa or Fulton would be the obvious fallbacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohhthepain Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 OL or GTFO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to As long as it is not the dreaded “best player in the draft” we should be ok! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: Agreed. 11 could end up being a sweet spot. I’d really like to end up with another pick before April rolls around. What would be your favorite way to acquire said pick if you had your druthers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Barkus said: As long as it is not the dreaded “best player in the draft” we should be ok! That’s not a bad strategy though. The issue we’ve had here execution on the strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I say we trade him now before his contract is up and he walks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Guilhermezmc said: Who do you rather have amari cooper or Nelson agholor I dont want either, especially considering the salary they will command. I think Laviska Shenault will turn out to be the best WR in this draft and he should be available at 11, The two best OTs will be gone before 11 and that leaves Austin Jackson who I am not high on and Becton - who is intriguing but certainly not a value pick at 11 as he has a lot to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to When Macc was the GM good players always fell right past him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, deucebag said: I dont want either, especially considering the salary they will command. I think Laviska Shenault will turn out to be the best WR in this draft and he should be available at 11, The two best OTs will be gone before 11 and that leaves Austin Jackson who I am not high on and Becton - who is intriguing but certainly not a value pick at 11 as he has a lot to learn. No guy named Laviska Shenault will turn out to be the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to There will certainly be very good players available at 11. I have no idea if we will actually pick any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, nycdan said: The fifth year option on players selected outside the top-10 picks in the first round is quite a bit lower than the top-10. From nfl.com: Gase! Great job. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to Would be awesome if its Andrew Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to Ya mostly a DL or safety lol.. Well we know Douglas is not the moron MAC was, we aren’t picking BPA, and would grab another DL, or D in general..OL or 2nd WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtMart Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Jets723 said: We are gonna get a very good player at 11. Somebody always falls that you don’t expect to Bingo! We’ve done wonders with players that have fallen in drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 In the last 10 years the #11 pick has mainly been OT or CB / DB. One NT (Dontari Poe) and one DE (some guy named Watt) are the exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 18 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The current consensus is that there are 5 players who would be very valuable to the Jets (WRs Lamb and Jeudy, OTs Wirfs, Thomas, Wills). There are even a few more palatable guys after that who would only be a minor reach (ex. Tee Higgins, maybe Austin Jackson, Henry Ruggs). The Jets will have options and won't be stuck in No Man's land without a draftable prospect on the Board. Only thing I'll push back on in your statement is the very last part. WR may be deeper but it really isn't by much IMO. There are a lot of Tier 2 and Tier 3 OTs in this draft. Guys like Becton, Jackson, Prince Wanogho, Josh Jones, Trey Adams....they are the same caliber of OT as guys like WRs Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, etc. JMHO. I'd take Claypool in the 2nd if available. Reminds me of Tyrell Owns w/o being a headcase. Strong as an ox, high points the ball, red zone beast and tough to bring down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TNJet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 1:57 PM, Guilhermezmc said: Who do you rather have amari cooper or Nelson agholor Jauan Jennings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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