CanadienJetsFan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Breer mentioned something I never heard nor read before today. when Rhule was being courted by Macc and the Jets last year, the Jets brass wanted Rhule to take on Williams as the defensive coordinator but Breer mentioned that they also wanted Rhule to accept Todd Monken as the offensive coordinator. Anyone ever hear this before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 Yes. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 "Jets brass" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I heard that, too bad Rhule balked because that would've been a good staff 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, KRL said: I heard that, too bad Rhule balked because that would've been a good staff Rhule, to his credit, trusted his own judgement over Maccagnan and Chris Johnson's. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Rhule to the Giants. Done deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, slats said: Rhule, to his credit, trusted his own judgement over Maccagnan and Chris Johnson's. Gotta figure there were additional people who we dont know about involved in this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 I, too, would not take a job where my boss forces me to manage two guys whose sole qualification is that they could replace me at the first sight of a cheap banner plane with my name on it 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I, too, would not take a job where my boss forces me to manage two guys whose sole qualification is that they could replace me at the first sight of a cheap banner plane with my name on it Exactly, I just don’t understand the logic. Macc should then hired the 2 guys and head coached himself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: I, too, would not take a job where my boss forces me to manage two guys whose sole qualification is that they could replace me at the first sight of a cheap banner plane with my name on it Please clarify, the banner itself was cheap or the plane? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HessStation Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: I, too, would not take a job where my boss forces me to manage two guys whose sole qualification is that they could replace me at the first sight of a cheap banner plane with my name on it Pussy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 To their almost credit they actually would a put a kick ass staff together. Not sure why they would have needed or wanted Rhule to HC w/ Monkin though. What, to be the face? Would guess Rhule would want to run his own O. Doesn’t make sense but good try losers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Breer mentioned something I never heard nor read before today. when Rhule was being courted by Macc and the Jets last year, the Jets brass wanted Rhule to take on Williams as the defensive coordinator but Breer mentioned that they also wanted Rhule to accept Todd Monken as the offensive coordinator. Anyone ever hear this before? Yo. Just so you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, HessStation said: To their almost credit they actually would a put a kick ass staff together. Not sure why they would have needed or wanted Rhule to HC w/ Monkin though. What, to be the face? Would guess Rhule would want to run his own O. Doesn’t make sense but good try losers They were basically trying to have their cake and eat it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2020 This issue during the HC search - bottomed out Macc. Period. He was already living on borrowed time, but this was the spark that set the ship on fire... You can't start telling management (Head Coach) how to run their show and who to hire... that undermines why you believe in him in the first place. If Matt Rhule has shown you he knows how to run a team and build a roster -- why fck with that but handing him your list of demands.. Insane. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Rhule is an unknown commodity so they wanted his passion coupled with guys who have NFL experience. I still don't see the problem.. People are acting as if Rhule is some kind of lock to be a great HC. I don't believe he would have done a much better job managing our JV team especially when you factor in that GW wouldn't have been here. In fact, his faith-based approach might have had guys rolling their eyes at 1-7 and most of this board calling for his head. In short... F Matt Rhule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The Giants are gonna have to overpay for Rhule now in order to satisfy the fan base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 You got me the jets OC job! Yes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pac said: Rhule is an unknown commodity so they wanted his passion coupled with guys who have NFL experience. I still don't see the problem.. People are acting as if Rhule is some kind of lock to be a great HC. I don't believe he would have done a much better job managing our JV team especially when you factor in that GW wouldn't have been here. In fact, his faith-based approach might have had guys rolling their eyes at 1-7 and most of this board calling for his head. In short... F Matt Rhule. Nobody is saying Rhule is a sure fire lock to be a great coach. But if you believe somebody is fit to be the head coach of your team, that means you have some faith in him to run that team and need to let him assemble his staff as he sees fit. You should trust in him to bring in the right guys. Forcing a staff on a head coach is an absolute slap in the face, not to mention you're stepping on his toes. Let him do his job and put his staff together. All because this organization (just like the fans) are hellbent on coddling Sam Darnold like he's a fragile little creature ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, King P said: Nobody is saying Rhule is a sure fire lock to be a great coach. But if you believe somebody is fit to be the head coach of your team, that means you have some faith in him to run that team and need to let him assemble his staff as he sees fit. You should trust in him to bring in the right guys. Forcing a staff on a head coach is an absolute slap in the face, not to mention you're stepping on his toes. Let him do his job and put his staff together. All because this organization (just like the fans) are hellbent on coddling Sam Darnold like he's a fragile little creature ? I think the point is they simply didn't believe in Rhule. Time will tell if it was the right decision but nothing has happened to make me think it isn't. Gase will be able to be more accurately judged next year when there is a semblance of continuity. Hate that he couldn't maximize Bells talents more but I'm willing to see what it looks like with the varsity team in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pac said: I think the point is they simply didn't believe in Rhule. Time will tell if it was the right decision but nothing has happened to make me think it isn't. Gase will be able to be more accurately judged next year when there is a semblance of continuity. Hate that he couldn't maximize Bells talents more but I'm willing to see what it looks like with the varsity team in 2020. Well if that's the case, then they're idiots for wasting their time with a guy they didn't believe in to fill their coaching vacancy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 hours ago, KRL said: I heard that, too bad Rhule balked because that would've been a good staff Sounds like it....but we would still probably have Mac running the show.....I doubt Rhule had enough scumbag in him to expose Macagnan and get him canned 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Paradis said: This mandate during the HC search bottomed out Macc. Period. He was already living on borrowed time, but this was the spark that set the ship on fire... You can't start telling management (Head Coach) how to run their show and who to hire... that undermines why you believe in him in the first place. If Matt Rhule has shown you he knows how to run a team and build a roster -- why fck with that but handing him your list of demands.. Insane. Great point. Seems like CJ was all in on Rhule and Mac tried to grab control by ordering coordinator hires. Maybe silver lining from this, CJ isn’t as enamored with Gase like we think, and this whole come back for 2020 thing is just because big brother woody said stop doing anything else until I get back. A scenario equally as scary... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, King P said: Nobody is saying Rhule is a sure fire lock to be a great coach. But if you believe somebody is fit to be the head coach of your team, that means you have some faith in him to run that team and need to let him assemble his staff as he sees fit. You should trust in him to bring in the right guys. Forcing a staff on a head coach is an absolute slap in the face, not to mention you're stepping on his toes. Let him do his job and put his staff together. All because this organization (just like the fans) are hellbent on coddling Sam Darnold like he's a fragile little creature ? The Giants are dealing with this scenario right now. They like Rhule but are concerned he can’t or won’t put together an experienced staff that can properly teach and coach up their younger players. You don’t want a Freddie Kitchens type that is in over their head and doesn’t have the experience or credibility to keep the team together during hard times. I don’t think there is another major sport where coaching more impacts overall record. Look at NE and Belichick-the guy prepares his players so they don’t beat themselves and knows every nuance of the rule book, and it translates into more wins. If I’m hiring someone who needs assistants, I’d want to feel comfortable that they will make the right hires that will increase their chances of success. Williams and Gase have put together a good experienced coaching staff and I think that really helped when we had all the injuries. Conversely, if I’m looking at a job and have options, I’d want trusted loyal assistants that I could lean on and be open with, without fear that they’d be snakes looking to take my job at my first miss step. It will be interesting to see what happens with the Giants and Rhule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, carlito1171 said: Sounds like it....but we would still probably have Mac running the show.....I doubt Rhule had enough scumbag in him to expose Macagnan and get him canned Very true!!! It would've been a good staff with a bad GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 glad we dodged the bullet, that staff would have made the season worse... Rhule lost big games, the Big12 and has no NFL experience, Fleck has better results with Minni if you want a college coach Monken was part of the Brown implosion and Tampa looked better without him - hard pass GW is the man - Big12 does not know defense but GW does and I am glad he is the DC of the Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 16 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Breer mentioned something I never heard nor read before today. when Rhule was being courted by Macc and the Jets last year, the Jets brass wanted Rhule to take on Williams as the defensive coordinator but Breer mentioned that they also wanted Rhule to accept Todd Monken as the offensive coordinator. Anyone ever hear this before? @Paradis sound familiar? lol Pretty sure I gave you this nugget during the whole process last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said: @Paradis sound familiar? lol Pretty sure I gave you this nugget during the whole process last year. yes indeed. Sad.... I hate thinking about the Rhule debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, Paradis said: yes indeed. Sad.... I hate thinking about the Rhule debacle. yeah I think we were both in the circle of wanting him here. He was my first choice really once his name surfaced as a serious candidate. He was literally seconds away from being the guy... Serious question though... how would you have felt with Sean ryan being the guy you were trusting to tutor sam darnold going forward. Especially with names like monken and mccarthy out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I would have to have put my trust in the man on that one. As i was intimating in another post -- if you think Rhule's the guy, then show him... let him do his thing. It's a bit of leap of faith given his shallow resume, but it felt like the right move... like the big first step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Paradis said: I would have to have put my trust in the man on that one. As i was intimating in another post -- if you think Rhule's the guy, then show him... let him do his thing. It's a bit of leap of faith given his shallow resume, but it felt like the right move... like the big first step. I get you, i mean im all for letting the coach bring his own guys in... but I kind of understand here in this situation why maybe the organization had some reservations regarding a first time NFL coach hiring a staff with guys that had limited NFL experience. but again I think we both wanted rhule enough to trust him to do his own thing. We'll see kinda if it was the right move or not now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 hours ago, southtown24th said: Rhule to the Giants. Done deal. Bob... is that you? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 hours ago, southtown24th said: Rhule to the Giants. Done deal. Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 hours ago, Maxman said: Please clarify, the banner itself was cheap or the plane? I thought it was a black van with TVs on the side? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 God forbid the “brass” try and set up a first time head coaches with some solid, experienced coordinators to guide him through coaching in the nfl. the panthers really messed up giving this fraud of a coach the keys to the castle, as well as paying out the nose for him to ruin the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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