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By my count, there are 33 players under contract that are locks to make the team next year

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20 minutes ago, JiF said:

Williamson is a tough one because I think he could be nasty paired with CJ but the way the kids played in his absence, it's tough to justify not going for the savings by cutting him.

Williamson was arguably our best defensive player 2 years ago.  It would be an absolute shame to cut him.  At the very least we need to try to trade him for something, even if its only, say, a 6th rounder or conditional 5th rounder. 

I know Darron Lee is about 2.5 years younger and his contract was significantly less expensive (less than $2M cap number) for KC to take on than it would be for a team acquiring Williamson ($6.5M cap number for the team that acquires him, I think?), but if he can net a 6th, Williamson should get us at least that.  

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7 minutes ago, JiF said:

If JD doesnt cut Tru and Winters as soon as he can, I'd be shocked and appalled and would be very worried about the man in charge. 

Williamson is a tough one because I think he could be nasty paired with CJ but the way the kids played in his absence, it's tough to justify not going for the savings by cutting him.

What does Josh Bellamy do for this team exactly? 

I hope the only way we cut Avery is if his contract prevents us from signing another FA. I really like Avery but it would be understandable if they didn't want to have 2 LBs getting paid top 15 money.

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RB Trenton Cannon nope has shown nothing. 

WR Josh Bellamy nope nothing. 

G Brian Winters?  Probably makes team. 

LB Blake Cashman looked decent when he played, injury prone. 

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21 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Nice work.  I assume you mean locks as long as they don't get traded?

Overall you used "lock" very liberally on several players:   

  • Burgess is a UFA so he's not a lock either.  I'd certainly like to bring him back though. 

I *think* Burgess is a controllable free agent, not sure though

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

RB Trenton Cannon nope has shown nothing. 

Cannon was easily the best special teams player on the team before he go hurt - he's not much of a returner, but a great all around special teamer.  

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9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Williamson was arguably our best defensive player 2 years ago.  It would be an absolute shame to cut him.  At the very least we need to try to trade him for something, even if its only, say, a 6th rounder or conditional 5th rounder. 

I know Darron Lee is about 2.5 years younger and his contract was significantly less expensive (less than $2M) for KC to take on than it would be for a team acquiring Williamson ($6.5M cap number for the team that acquires him, I think?), but if he can net a 6th, Williamson should get us at least that.  

Good point.  Still, the way the kids played in his place it's hard to justify that much money being spent on ILB's. 

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Just now, Sarge4Tide said:

I *think* Burgess is a controllable free agent, not sure though

You're right, he's an RFA.  I'm not sure how RFA tenders work for UDFA's though.  We wouldn't get any draft compensation if he signs elsewhere, so I guess its just a matter of having the option to match any offers he gets or lose him for nothing?

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13 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Cannon was easily the best special teams player on the team before he go hurt - he's not much of a returner, but a great all around special teamer.  

Easily replaced. 

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1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said:


TOTAL 33

Offense  (14)
Quarterback  (1)
 

     14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221 USC   (QB)

Running Back  (2) 

    26 - Le'Veon Bell 6'1" 225 Michigan State  (RB)  
    25 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185 Virginia State  (RB) (Special Teamer)

Tight End   (3)   

    84 - Ryan Griffin 6'6" 255 UCONN (TE)   
    89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami (TE)      
    85 - Trevon Wesco 6'3" 267  West Virginia(TE)   
 

Wide Receiver   (4) 
    82 - Jamison Crowder 5'9" 177 Duke (WR)  
    10 - Braxton Berrios  5'9" 190  Miami (FL) (WR/KR)  
    17 - Vyncint Smith 6'3" 202 Limestone (WR)  or 81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska   (WR) (if healthy)
    15 - Josh Bellamy 6'0" 208 Louisville (WR)  

Offensive Line   (4) 
    78 - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C) (Hopefully as a backup)
    69 - Conor McDermott 6'8" 305 UCLA (G/T)  (Hopefully as a backup)
    75 - Chuma Edoga 6'3" 308 USC (T)   
    67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G)    

Defense (18)
Defensive Line  (6)  

    96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300  Stanford (DE)   
    99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT)  
    95 - Quinnen Williams 6'3" 303 Alabama  (DT)
    98 - Kyle Phillips 6'4" 277  Tennessee (DE)  
    94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT)     
    97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315 Ft. Hays State (DE/DT)

Linebacker  (5)  

    57 - CJ Mosley 6'2" 250 Alabama (ILB)   
    54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB)  
    93 - Tarell Basham 6'4" 266 Ohio (OLB)      
    44 - Harvey Langi 6'2" 250 BYU (ILB)   
    58 - James Burgess 6'0" 230 Louisville (ILB) 
 

Cornerback  (5)   
    22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB)     
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
    21 - Nate Hairston 6'0"185 Tulane (CB)    
    31 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (CB)   
    23 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB)   

Safety   (2)   
    33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU  (S)  
    20 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida  (S)  

 

 

In my opinion, green are the units that should not get heavy attention (ex. big FA $$$, high Draft picks) this offseason.  Maybe add some depth, sign a middling Free Agent or use a late round Draft pick...but we shouldn't be using a lot of capital on these units.

Orange needs some attention, maybe add key player or more depth meaning multiple players.

Red is for Red Alert!  Need significant attention, FA $$$ commitment and/or first or second day Draft pick usage.

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Agree with others. Winters, Johnson, and Roberts are virtual locks to be cut at their cap numbers with how they’ve performed.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Williamson, Bellamy, and Enunwa gone either. The LB’s played well in the absence of Williamson and Mosley and that money is better spent elsewhere as much as I like Williamson.

And the WR room needs an infusion of talent and youth. Enunwa can’t stay healthy and Bellamy is expensive for a guy who doesn’t produce on offense. Like Smith and Berrios as developmental guys but I think ideally they’re the 5/6 next year.

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I think the number of players under contract who should be on the team and not replaced is probably closer to 25.  

For the money, Winters, Johnson and Bellamy should be cut.  Williamson and Roberts could be cut for the cap savings.  Cannon, Wesco, Longi, Hairston and Maulet are upgradeable.  

I would say that all seven draft picks make the team, as well as at least 2 UDFA.   So JD has to find another 35 or so players.  Good luck with that. 

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mostly agree with the list although i can see winters, trumaine, roberts, and even anderson or williamson cut.  it would also be great if they could get an injury settlement for enunwa.  i just don't see him being able to play the game without injury.

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16 hours ago, bitonti said:

brian winters is a lock to be cut/retire

trumaine is definitely getting cut, roberts probably too  

WIlliamson is a coin flip 

Agreed.  I’d add Bellamy to that list.  He did nothing

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Winters won’t be on this team. It’s laughable to think so. He’s free and clear to cut and has been stealing money for years. Good lord. 

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17 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Cannon was easily the best special teams player on the team before he go hurt - he's not much of a returner, but a great all around special teamer.  

On a properly constructed roster there is no need for Bellamy AND Cannon.  Cannon offers little to no benefit other than running down the field on special teams.  

Also, what a depressing list of offensive players.  Every year it’s the same thing, needing to sign some over priced free agents to fill roles on a yearly basis and having to essentially start over every year with this unit.  I hope one day we can go into an off-season with a core of decent guys at important positions and just need to fill a spot or two, instead of needing to build an entire unit every March.  Douglas needs to really hit the next two drafts out of the park,  Because without that this is going to be Groundhog Day every offseason   

 

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8 hours ago, jetsjets said:

Isn’t Blake Cashman under contract as well?

He is, I have him as a potential backup linebacker.  With Mosley, Williamson, Burgess, and Langi, Cashman might be the odd man out, but one of those 4 might get hurt or traded, so you never know

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Good Post. 

These stood out to me at first galnce:

I don't think Josh Bellamy or Avery Williamson are locks to make the team.  Edwards, our punter, though his last two games weren't great has been very solid overall and I would surprised if he didn't make the team next season. 

For some reason Mac gave Bellamy a guaranteed two year deal, I don't think the money is enough to lock him in.  BTW, I like Williamson, but he makes good money and Douglas may feel we can replace him and save on the cap. 

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On 1/9/2020 at 11:35 AM, Sarge4Tide said:

Cannon was easily the best special teams player on the team before he go hurt - he's not much of a returner, but a great all around special teamer.  

Lock though? Hardly. 

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