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1/11/2020 Rank the Darnold draft class QBs

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can we go two weeks without this stupid thread please? 

 No. The idea is to see how people’s opinions evolve over time. 

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13 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 No. The idea is to see how people’s opinions evolve over time. 

I’ll start the next thread in 20 minutes.

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20 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 No. The idea is to see how people’s opinions evolve over time. 

the same way it did on mac and bowles..Geno..hackenberg:

Wrong

Wrong

Wrong

Fired

He sucked! The replacement will be sooo much better!

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25 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I still vote Darnold as #1

Darnold

Lamar

Josh Allen

Baker

Josh Rosen 

 

I see it the same way.

In three years Baker and Lamar will be out of the league and both Josh's will be backups while Sam will be leading the Jets in the playoffs.

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Jackson

Allen

Mayfield

Darnold

Rosen

Till proven otherwise.

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using intelligence, objectivity and your own two eyes or blind fandomship? (nothing wrong with either)

FANDOMSHIP

  1.  Darnold
  2.  Jackson
  3.  Mayfield
  4.  Allen
  5.  Rosen

OBJECTIVITY

  1.  Allen
  2.  Mayfield
  3.  Jackson
  4.  Darnold
  5.  Rosen

In any event, still too early to rank, Call me in three years

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15 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I still vote Darnold as #1

Darnold

Lamar

Josh Allen

Baker

Josh Rosen 

 

Wait. Is Baker typed in a smaller font? lol

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17 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Wait. Is Baker typed in a smaller font? lol

Not sure why that is.  It wasn't intentional.  I think I typed it on my phone (where weird font stuff seems to happen all the time).

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16 hours ago, Jets723 said:

I don’t like ranking players but Darnold was the QB I wanted and I still stand by it.  We don’t know how it will end up working in the end but I have confidence we will all be happy with him as our QB.  

Well said.

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so better asked who’d I take today to start my franchise if I had my pick:


1. Jackson

2. Darnold

3. Rosen

4. Allen

5. Mayfield 

 

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Right now, I’d go Lamar at #1 and Rosen out of the discussion.

Allen, Darnold and Baker are TBD. It’s too close to call. The three have had their ups and downs. 
 

Id go Baker > Sam > Allen which is consistent to my pre draft ranking. I haven’t seen enough one way or the other to change that. Allen has been the only surprise. He’s better than I expected.

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Lamar

Darnold

Mayfield

Allen

Rosen

 

Sam will be the best passer from this class when it's said and done. Lamar has earned the right to be the best overall QB until proven otherwise.

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1. Jackson (although he may be proven to be one-dimensional)

2A. Darnold

2B. Allen

4. Mayfield

5. Rudolph

6. Rosen

 

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2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

1. Jackson (although he may be proven to be one-dimensional)

2A. Darnold

2B. Allen

4. Mayfield

5. Rudolph

6. Rosen

 

This is probably the most objective list.  God job man!!

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If I was drafting a FQB knowing what I know now. 
 

1. Darnold - he shows the most potential as a FQB. Leadership, touch, arm strength and pocket awareness. With proper coaching and team the sky is the limit  

2. Allen - he has the physical ability, strong arm and balls but he needs to work on his accuracy and mental game  

 3. Mayfield - cocky as **** with playmaking ability but his a inconsistent as hell

4. Jackson - wildcat RB. He plays great when he has time and open receivers  

 5. Rosen/Rudolph - career backups

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1) Lamar Jackson - reigning NFL MVP

2) Josh Allen - QB upstart with a playoff team

3) Baker Mayfield - comparable statistics to Darnold and a better win/loss record.

4) Sam Darnold

5) OK ST QB for Pitt

6) Josh Rosen

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Can I just ask why, after a change in coaches, Mayfield isn't given the same, "bad coaching" excuse that we give to Darnold?

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2 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

Can I just ask why, after a change in coaches, Mayfield isn't given the same, "bad coaching" excuse that we give to Darnold?

Personally I never blamed Gase even though I never wanted him here.  Kitchens was a bad coach but Baker still has a lot more talent around him yet took a big step backward IMO

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Just now, Jets723 said:

Personally I never blamed Gase even though I never wanted him here.  Kitchens was a bad coach but Baker still has a lot more talent around him yet took a big step backward IMO

I completely agree Baker took a step backwards.  I'm just pointing out that when it's our guy, we blame the coaching, when it's another guy, we blame the player.

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2 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I completely agree Baker took a step backwards.  I'm just pointing out that when it's our guy, we blame the coaching, when it's another guy, we blame the player.

I don’t.  I can’t speak for others.  I’ve made it no secret Gase was the last guy I wanted but I won’t blame him for Sam not taking the big step forward. Some is Sam but some is the fact that he has nothing around him.  No matter how good of a WB you are you can’t do it alone.  I’m not gonna blame Kitchens even though he was awful.  I still felt a Baker had more than enough talent around him to be at least what he was last year 

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Jackson

Darnold

Mayfield

Rosen

Allen

 

Yep.  Allen is still last.  The Bills are getting Sanchez'd.  

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2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Jackson

Darnold

Mayfield

Rosen

Allen

 

Yep.  Allen is still last.  The Bills are getting Sanchez'd.  

That’s a fair list. Although I think Allen deserves to be 3rd or 4th.  I dislike Baker but he is a better overall QB but Allen also deserves credit for this year even though his team really helped him too

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Jackson

Darnold

Allen 

Rosen

Mayflower 

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14 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I completely agree Baker took a step backwards.  I'm just pointing out that when it's our guy, we blame the coaching, when it's another guy, we blame the player.

Did Sam take a step back?

I thought all of his numbers improved? 

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Just now, Jimmy 2 Times said:

Did Sam take a step back?

I thought all of his numbers improved? 

That's not really what I'm saying there.

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9 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

Did Sam take a step back?

I thought all of his numbers improved? 

He took a slight step forward from a bad rookie season.

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