New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jetster said: If Okudah is sitting there at 11, someone will call in behind us to see if the pick is available. Okudah is a STUD & I don't think he'll make it to 11, he's the best CB in the draft but in this scenario, JD is moving back with more picks to fill this roster. If they could move down a few spots and get a 2nd rounder I’d be happy as ****. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SR24 3,988 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, New York Mick said: If they draft another DL this board is going to meltdown as well as me. Enough can’t miss DL. He's an edge rusher something we've needed for a long long time. Wouldn't be a sexy pick but he would fill a big need Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice of Reason 759 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: Obviously this is going to change a lot between now and the draft but it’s interesting to see who will be available for the Jets pick at 11. After running a bunch of mocks these are the top players available at 11. From that list who would you take? None, someone not on this list will fall. Jeudy, Lamb, Wirfs, Wills... If you are drafting Niang or Biadasz in the first round, you are doing it wrong. These are second round draft picks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 7,948 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Drafting anything but WR or OL in the first round would bd an unmitigated disaster. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DetroitRed 1,392 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I’ve done that draft simulator before. It’s not realistic, IMO . I got almost the exact scenario Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, SR24 said: He's an edge rusher something we've needed for a long long time. Wouldn't be a sexy pick but he would fill a big need In a 3-4 defense he’s a DE that’s a DL. If he was an OLB it would be different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: None, someone not on this list will fall. Jeudy, Lamb, Wirfs, Wills... If you are drafting Niang or Biadasz in the first round, you are doing it wrong. These are second round draft picks. That’s not answering the original question. That’s how it fell so who do you take and who has Biadasz going in the first? They have them ranked but I definitely wouldn’t pick him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
varjet 3,833 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: In a 3-4 defense he’s a DE that’s a DL. If he was an OLB it would be different. But are the Jets really a 3-4 defense? If they drafted Epenesa the Jets could credibly be a 4-3 defense and look more like the 49ers. the LBs they have could be 4-3 off ball LBs. It is actually a better construction of the roster given who they have and where the money is being spent. Based on prior years, players like Biadasz and Niang could conceivably fall at the end of the first round. Biadasz needs to show who is the real player here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peebag 7,362 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, rangerous said: if those are the choices then maybe trading back in order. not many oline guys and it looks like the ones that are there aren't even ranked high enough to be the 11th pick. You can't count on being able to trade back. It just doesn't happen for the Jets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetsons 2,309 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: Alabama? doh!!! ... lack of sleep... Oklahoma Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, varjet said: But are the Jets really a 3-4 defense? If they drafted Epenesa the Jets could credibly be a 4-3 defense and look more like the 49ers. the LBs they have could be 4-3 off ball LBs. It is actually a better construction of the roster given who they have and where the money is being spent. Based on prior years, players like Biadasz and Niang could conceivably fall at the end of the first round. Biadasz needs to show who is the real player here. Williams seems to play a base 3-4 with the Jets but who knows. It obviously depends on who they resign and get in FA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, jetsons said: Yes He transferred schools? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetsons 2,309 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: He transferred schools? see above 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SR24 3,988 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, New York Mick said: In a 3-4 defense he’s a DE that’s a DL. If he was an OLB it would be different. Again not a sexy pick but if the board falls the way it does here it wouldn't be a bad pick. Not saying I'd be psyched but I'd understand it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, SR24 said: Again not a sexy pick but if the board falls the way it does here it wouldn't be a bad pick. Not saying I'd be psyched but I'd understand it I didn’t watch a ton of him playing is he any better then Leonard Williams was? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 29,036 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, New York Mick said: Obviously this is going to change a lot between now and the draft but it’s interesting to see who will be available for the Jets pick at 11. After running a bunch of mocks these are the top players available at 11. From that list who would you take? I don't believe we will be limited to these options. If it did, we take the best WR/O-Line/Edge/CB I suppose, and hope we have better luck later in the draft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SR24 3,988 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I didn’t watch a ton of him playing is he any better then Leonard Williams was? Good motor, solid hands and he's definitely disruptive. Leonard had more tackles but less sacks Leo's best season for sacks saw him turn out 8 sacks, Epenesa only had 4.5 his 1st year but his last 2 he's combined for 22 sacks. He crushed Austin Jackson (widely regarded as a t5 OT) when they played as well. I'm praying one of the OTs falls I really like Wirfs but if we end up with Epensa I can live with it. Switching to a 4-3 might be beneficial as well but it's a total crapshoot from now until the jets are on the clock lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice of Reason 759 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, New York Mick said: That’s not answering the original question. That’s how it fell so who do you take and who has Biadasz going in the first? They have them ranked but I definitely wouldn’t pick him. Thats a terrible fall if it happened that way but you have to take okudah.... Guy is going to be an all star... I wouldn't mind espensa, maybe Ruggs or Higgins but sh*t that would be bad... I was pre-empting the you have to take a OL in the first crowd no matter what, which is just dumb. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darnold Schwarzenegger 1,434 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The athletic just did a 2 Rd mock. They have us taking becton, the 4th tackle over both jeudy and lamb. I'd rather take the best wr over the 4th best olineman. They also have us taking Robert hunt interior OL in the 2nd Here's how they have the top 10 1 Burrow, 2 young, 3 okudah, 4 Will's, 5 Tua, 6 Herbert, 7 Derek brown, 8 Wirfs, 9 Simmons, 10 A Thomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetsons 2,309 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I really do not want Espenesa... I don’t see him doing much in the NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Obrien2Toon 4,239 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: The athletic just did a 2 Rd mock. They have us taking becton, the 4th tackle over both jeudy and lamb. I'd rather take the best wr over the 4th best olineman. They also have us taking Robert hunt interior OL in the 2nd Here's how they have the top 10 1 Burrow, 2 young, 3 okudah, 4 Will's, 5 Tua, 6 Herbert, 7 Derek brown, 8 Wirfs, 9 Simmons, 10 A Thomas If Thomas goes one pick ahead of us, I’ll lose it 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: The athletic just did a 2 Rd mock. They have us taking becton, the 4th tackle over both jeudy and lamb. I'd rather take the best wr over the 4th best olineman. They also have us taking Robert hunt interior OL in the 2nd Here's how they have the top 10 1 Burrow, 2 young, 3 okudah, 4 Will's, 5 Tua, 6 Herbert, 7 Derek brown, 8 Wirfs, 9 Simmons, 10 A Thomas Yea I agree with you on that one. I’d rather take Lamb or Jeudy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 29,849 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Drafting anything but WR or OL in the first round would bd an unmitigated disaster. This! And, it's not only because we're hard-coding ourselves to those positions it's because THIS IS AN OT AND WR DRAFT! For the first time in a while what the Draft has is EXACTLY what the Jets need. Lots of good OTs, lots of good WRs. Whether we go OT then WR or WR then OT, whether we trade down a bit before picking, etc. I don't care....but that will be the value when the Jets are on the board. Further, if a guy like Okudah somehow slips to #11 (which would surprise me) then there has to be a reason for it. It might scare me off. There aren't a ton of good CBs in this Draft. If anything he should go earlier than expected because after the first 2-3 guys the talent drops off, whereas there are easily 6-10 draftable OTs and 6-10 draftable WRs that will be spread over the first 2 rounds and it won't be a reach to take them. Round 3 seems like a good spot to go Edge (probably a more one-dimensional pass rusher, a 3rd down guy who may have to grow into a full time role) and Interior OLine. JMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 29,849 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: If Thomas goes one pick ahead of us, I’ll lose it We're all going to lose it anyway regardless of what happens. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PepPep 2,503 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: The athletic just did a 2 Rd mock. They have us taking becton, the 4th tackle over both jeudy and lamb. I'd rather take the best wr over the 4th best olineman. They also have us taking Robert hunt interior OL in the 2nd Here's how they have the top 10 1 Burrow, 2 young, 3 okudah, 4 Will's, 5 Tua, 6 Herbert, 7 Derek brown, 8 Wirfs, 9 Simmons, 10 A Thomas They can have their opinion but there is no way the Jets pass on Jeudy for Becton. 49 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Drafting anything but WR or OL in the first round would bd an unmitigated disaster. Wrong. If Okudah actually falls to 11. Which he won't. It's absurd that he is there in this simulator, but thats how these simulators are sometimes. You take the top rated shut down CB who fill a huge need. He's not just a top rated CB, he's a top 5 prospect, IMO. The draft is deep at WR and OL, I'm sorry, I'm not taking Ruggs, Higgins or Becton or Biadasz at 11 when Okudah is on the board. Again, this is a practice in futility b/c he won't drop that far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Augustiniak 7,706 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 when all is said and done i doubt both lamb and jeudy make it to the jets at 11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: If they draft another DL this board is going to meltdown as well as me. Enough can’t miss DL. If they draft another DL I would get my pilot's license... 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice of Reason 759 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: The athletic just did a 2 Rd mock. They have us taking becton, the 4th tackle over both jeudy and lamb. I'd rather take the best wr over the 4th best olineman. They also have us taking Robert hunt interior OL in the 2nd Here's how they have the top 10 1 Burrow, 2 young, 3 okudah, 4 Will's, 5 Tua, 6 Herbert, 7 Derek brown, 8 Wirfs, 9 Simmons, 10 A Thomas Becton is a huge reach at this point, IMHO he is 2-3 years away from being a NFL starter and project.... but would still be the best OL on the Jets right now (That's sad). And skipping the Jeudy and Lamb is a huge mistake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: Becton is a huge reach at this point, IMHO he is 2-3 years away from being a NFL starter and project.... but would still be the best OL on the Jets right now (That's sad). And skipping the Jeudy and Lamb is a huge mistake. I was just reading up on him and he sounds like a project OT that got by on his size and doesn’t have good technique. In the laters rounds sure but you can’t pass on two top WRs for him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funaz 65 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Ruggs is the fastest guy of the bunch. I think speed a WR is the most needed thing on this team. I think we don't need a speedster. We need a big physical WR who will go get the big catches and fight for the ball. We have a speedy WR in anderson. Even if he leaves, I think a big prototypical WR#1 is what we need 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, funaz said: I think we don't need a speedster. We need a big physical WR who will go get the big catches and fight for the ball. We have a speedy WR in anderson. Even if he leaves, I think a big prototypical WR#1 is what we need We need Demaryius Thomas from 5-6 years ago.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYJ1 1,700 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I don't think there's any way Grant Delpit is still available at 11. Even assuming he would be there's no way the Jets would have any interest in drafting him. Delpit more than likely goes top 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 6,416 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Ruggs is the fastest guy of the bunch. I think speed a WR is the most needed thing on this team. Robbie is fast! You look at KC with Hill, Hardman and Watkins! An overabundance of speed. Speed kills..... as long as they can run routes well and catch the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,319 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: I don't think there's any way Grant Delpit is still available at 11. Even assuming he would be there's no way the Jets would have any interest in drafting him. Delpit more than likely goes top 5. A safety taken in the top 5?? @T0mShane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice of Reason 759 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: We need Demaryius Thomas from 5-6 years ago.. DT was a project coming out GT... He was what Hill was suppose to be... before Hill came out. both from GT and no route running capabilities... the difference is that DT learned under Gase and Manning and found out how to run better routes, Hill was entitled and out of football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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