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For me and probably many it’s a 5 player draft for these guys at 11.  I’m curious how people think they stack up.

Let’s do this on pure big board talent and not with positional value for the Jets needs.

 

 In alphabetical order:

Jerry Jeudy - WR Alabama 

Ceedee Lamb - WR Oklahama

Andrew Thomas - OT Georgia

Jedrick Wills - OT Alabama

Tristan Wirfs - OT Iowa
 

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for us numbnuts who don't follow closely, can we get first names?

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  • Jeudy
  • Wills
  • Thomas
  • Wirfs
  • Lamb

I love CeeDee Lamb, but he's being innapropriately pushed into these types of conversations IMO

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Each year there is a position that gets artificially elevated due to team needs (often QB). 

I am slightly worried that OT is that position this year.  Guys that follow oline more closely like Rob or Bit might comment on this.

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I love me Lamb.  The three OTs is a wash Wirfs has maybe most upside but didn’t play LT

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5 hours ago, maury77 said:

1) Jeudy

2a) Thomas

2b) Wills

4) Wirfs

5) Lamb

This is pretty much my take except I have Thomas, Wills and Wirfs as 2a, 2b, 2c, LOL. Those 3 guys are all super talented and big board hard to separate them, just depends on what you are looking for. Otherwise, pretty much agree. 

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Thomas

2a) Wills

2b) Wirfs

Lamb

Jeudy

 

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37 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Each year there is a position that gets artificially elevated due to team needs (often QB). 

I am slightly worried that OT is that position this year.  Guys that follow oline more closely like Rob or Bit might comment on this.

They're not getting artificially elevated this year. This is going to be a historic OT draft class but a bad one for the Center position.

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1 minute ago, RobR said:

They're not getting artificially elevated this year. This is going to be a historic OT draft class but a bad one for the Center position.

Rob....is it good enough to wait till 2nd rd if top 3 guys are gone, or is 4th/5th best OT better than taking one of the WR's there?

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Thomas
2a) Wills
2b) Wirfs
Lamb
Jeudy
 

Why Lamb over Jeudy?


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2 minutes ago, section314 said:

Rob....is it good enough to wait till 2nd rd if top 3 guys are gone, or is 4th/5th best OT better than taking one of the WR's there?

We still have a ways to go and the Senior Bowl will provide some answers. Gun to my head, I'd go WR in round 1 and then OT with our 2nd pick but I wouldn't wait any longer than that.

I could see a huge run on them just like every other draft when one position stands out.

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3 minutes ago, maury77 said:


Why Lamb over Jeudy?


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I think Jeudy is massively overrated. I don't think he's even the best WR on his own team. Everything about Jeudy screams good, but not great to me. I don't see him lighting up the 40 or any other metric like broad, long, and he's not the biggest guy out there. He'll probably shine on change of direction metrics like the shuttles and 3 cone.....but is that really worth drafting someone that high? He also drops quite a few passes. 

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Wirfs or Wills

Wirfs or Wills

Thomas

Jeudy

Lamb

 

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15 minutes ago, RobR said:

I think Jeudy is massively overrated. I don't think he's even the best WR on his own team. Everything about Jeudy screams good, but not great to me. I don't see him lighting up the 40 or any other metric like broad, long, and he's not the biggest guy out there. He'll probably shine on change of direction metrics like the shuttles and 3 cone.....but is that really worth drafting someone that high? He also drops quite a few passes. 

I think Ruggs will be a steal where ever he's drafted.

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7 minutes ago, Thai Jet said:

I think Ruggs will be a steal where ever he's drafted.

I'm also a huge Waddle fan but he's not eligible.

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2 hours ago, Paradis said:
  • Jeudy
  • Wills
  • Thomas
  • Wirfs
  • Lamb

I love CeeDee Lamb, but he's being innapropriately pushed into these types of conversations IMO

Beat me to it, my exact ranking.  

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For the Jets... 1- Wills

                      2. Wirfs

                      3. Thomas

                      4. Lamb

                      5. Jeudy

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5 hours ago, RobR said:

I think Jeudy is massively overrated. I don't think he's even the best WR on his own team. Everything about Jeudy screams good, but not great to me. I don't see him lighting up the 40 or any other metric like broad, long, and he's not the biggest guy out there. He'll probably shine on change of direction metrics like the shuttles and 3 cone.....but is that really worth drafting someone that high? He also drops quite a few passes. 

Ooooooh shots fired

yeah he gets comps to Dominant physical specimens like Julio Jones or AJ Green yet doesn’t have those type of special bodies. He could be great but I really want to see the re-evaluations after the combine after the analysts pick everybody apart. I wonder if he’ll be the first wideout taken. Btw I think he’s great and he may be my number one target 🎯 

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9 minutes ago, David Harris said:

Ooooooh shots fired

yeah he gets comps to Dominant physical specimens like Julio Jones or AJ Green yet doesn’t have those type of special bodies. He could be great but I really want to see the re-evaluations after the combine after the analysts pick everybody apart. I wonder if he’ll be the first wideout taken. Btw I think he’s great and he may be my number one target 🎯 

Anybody who compares Jeudy to AJ Green or Julio Jones needs to turn in their draft forum access at the door. It's a lazy comparison because there are no similarities at all, whether we are talking body frame or the type of game they play.   

You want a better comp.....look no further than Calvin Ridley who went 26th overall a couple of years ago. They are the same size, will test similar, and have the same type of game. They both gain their yards through route running, suck at 50/50 balls, and drop around the same amount of passes.

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Thomas > Wirfs > Lamb > Jeudy > Wills

Im liking Lamb better than Jeudy. Lamb looks like the more dynamic and versatile receiver. 

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11 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

 Lamb looks like the more dynamic and versatile receiver. 

This 100%. He looks like a more freakish athlete to me with better size than Jeudy.

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I guess this is as good a place as any for the Jeudy v. Lamb debate. I think Jeudy is a much better prospect than Ridley was coming out. I think Jeudy was more similar to Cooper, but Jeudy is more electric after the catch and in the open field. Additionally, I don't think we should poo poo route running as a trait, it's one of the leading predictors of early success in the NFL. 

I think Lamb is elite after the catch, but I don't really see anything else that I would deem elite. I don't think he's that big (but he is strong) and I don't see elite speed. 

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23 hours ago, RobR said:

I'm also a huge Waddle fan but he's not eligible.

Me too. That kid is dynamic with speed to spare.

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I see Devonta Smith is returning to Bama.  He was a guy I was interested in as he did not get near the press that a lot of these other WRs were getting but he showed up in a big way in the games I watched.

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Thomas

Wirfs

Jeudy

Lamb

Wills

 

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The concern with Jeudy and Ruggs is that they likely made each other better on that same Bama team. You can’t double cover both guys all the time so I think each may have benefitted from the other one being on the other side. Guys like Lamb and Higgins may have had to face the CB1 and/or double coverage a lot more. I don’t know....just a thought. 

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13 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

The concern with Jeudy and Ruggs is that they likely made each other better on that same Bama team. You can’t double cover both guys all the time so I think each may have benefitted from the other one being on the other side. Guys like Lamb and Higgins may have had to face the CB1 and/or double coverage a lot more. I don’t know....just a thought. 

Bama not only had Jeudy and Ruggs, they also had Smith and Waddle who are just as good. The four WR's they had on the field last year all have a chance to be first rounders. Two this year and two next year. Let that sink in for a minute. 

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