Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Stark said: I don't know if that is correct. I did not cast a vote yesterday because i was hoping to see why nolder went MIA. he's back this morning and still working on some narrative building and using my words as his reason for playing situations the way he has/did. After reading him this morning he says you are scummy because you will only probably vote CTM or SPoot today, but he literally said in a post before that he has a scum team of "stark and 80" Nolder lied about PR/Spoot he's never built the case on 80 that he said he would, yet he has 80 as scum with me. VOTE NOLDER Is this the second or third time you've lied about something I've said? Go ahead and quote where I said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Am I seriously the only person who wants to lynch this guy? Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, CTM said: I mean it's good practice for playing as scum i suppose, or maybe you are scum and thus need to approach it in this build a case on a conclusion I already made approach Which do you think is more likely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nolder said: Which do you think is more likely? no clue tbh, i just don't think it's a good strategy proper strategy is one of a scientist. you go back trying to disprove your ingrained belief. Thats is the foundation of rationality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, CTM said: no clue tbh, i just don't think it's a good strategy proper strategy is one of a scientist. you go back trying to disprove your ingrained belief. Thats is the foundation of rationality And an ideal game is among strangers. Yet here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Nothing really to glean from this VC. Spoot was on the JC train so that helps my cause to lynch him slightly. But then so was Stark, who is my best town read. ^^confirmation bias gross You and Crusher were also on that train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nolder said: Is this the second or third time you've lied about something I've said? Go ahead and quote where I said that. 22 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Only willing to vote CTM or Spoot today probably. But at the same time I don't have a firm town read on anyone. Stark is probably the closest to that top town slot. 6 hours ago, Nolder said: That's scummy in and of itself imo. We're on D2 and 18 pages in, most of it actually being gameplay for once. And you don't have ANYONE as town? The **** have you been doing this whole time? quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I think this is the current vote count? How do we have 4/7 people who aren't voting someone? I'm definitely voting you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Spoot-Face said: ^^confirmation bias gross You and Crusher were also on that train. yes, they both were and I voted JC as deadline approached. I am pretty sure you did as well. The EOD votes really don't mean much IMO on that vote. Now the EOD you had Nolder fumble the ending and CTM came in later doing a whole "oh my Im so sorry" routine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, CTM said: I think it's fair to consolidate, but the bolded is bothering me. You are essentially saying that you voted me in anticipation of crusher voting me. I understand you clarified a bit in the next sentence but it sounds an awful lot like something scum would think about which townies they could get lynched,. When a prosecutor thinks he has his guy with the evidence at hand, and the defendant pleads not guilty, he goes hard after him, using whatever resources and arguments he has available. Even if the prosecutor's intentions are good, he may (by accident or not) create a narrative about the defendant to convince the jury he's the guy. Many an innocent accused have been sent to prison because of this. And in this case of course you might well be innocent. For me to get you lynched, I'd need support. So even if I think you're scum, it's useless to be the lone voter. Sure, I could create a strong case against you. But I don't have one. We don't have a lot of content from you. My thinking on you is based more on feel/instinct and a wariness of your ability to take over a game when scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Stark said: After reading him this morning he says you are scummy because you will only probably vote CTM or SPoot today, but he literally said in a post before that he has a scum team of "stark and 80" He actually didn't say this. I feel like you are willingly misinterpreting things in order to help your case. I expect Town Stark to be more thorough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Spoot-Face said: He actually didn't say this. I feel like you are willingly misinterpreting things in order to help your case. I expect Town Stark to be more thorough. look up 3 posts... Nolder has had the game "solved" since i voted him. Me and 80 are scum. he won't give a reason on 80, has avoided it since friday. then he commented the above calling it scummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Stark said: quoted. I clearly said it's scummy that he doesn't have anyone as town. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Nolder said: At some point you're going to have to start making posts for yourself. Just sayin'. Or maybe I am and just don't blabber about nothing as much as you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: ^^confirmation bias gross You and Crusher were also on that train. I've already said I wanted Crusher to get his hands dirty. And yes, I was on that train. Am I supposed to vote myself? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I can't myself moving my vote right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Unofficial Vote Count 80 (2)- Spoot, CTM Spoot (2) - 80, Verb Nolder (1) - Stark Not voting (2) - Nol, Crush 4 to lynch DEADLINE - Tuesday 4 pm ET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 My top 2 scum choices are both voting me. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, CTM said: no clue tbh, i just don't think it's a good strategy proper strategy is one of a scientist. you go back trying to disprove your ingrained belief. Thats is the foundation of rationality This is kind of the mindset I had when I did my re-read on page 16. I did my best to forget my current feelings on the game and look at everything with fresh eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Nolder said: Am I seriously the only person who wants to lynch this guy? Wtf See and this is why I don't have any real firm town reads. Either there's not enough content from some OR there are scummy moments that give me pause. Why should I be forcing players onto my town list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nolder said: I clearly said it's scummy that he doesn't have anyone as town. clearly. it could be interpreted as 2 statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Stark said: quoted. You're omitting the part that Nolder bolded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: See and this is why I don't have any real firm town reads. Either there's not enough content from some OR there are scummy moments that give me pause. Why should I be forcing players onto my town list? Process of elimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Stark said: yes, they both were and I voted JC as deadline approached. I am pretty sure you did as well. The EOD votes really don't mean much IMO on that vote. I actually thought JC was a good bet for scum. He was inactive, and the highlight of his play was a double vote on Verb. Really seemed out of place with him. 13 minutes ago, Stark said: Now the EOD you had Nolder fumble the ending and CTM came in later doing a whole "oh my Im so sorry" routine too. That's something I have in the back of my mind. For now, though, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: When a prosecutor thinks he has his guy with the evidence at hand, and the defendant pleads not guilty, he goes hard after him, using whatever resources and arguments he has available. Even if the prosecutor's intentions are good, he may (by accident or not) create a narrative about the defendant to convince the jury he's the guy. Many an innocent accused have been sent to prison because of this. And in this case of course you might well be innocent. For me to get you lynched, I'd need support. So even if I think you're scum, it's useless to be the lone voter. Sure, I could create a strong case against you. But I don't have one. We don't have a lot of content from you. My thinking on you is based more on feel/instinct and a wariness of your ability to take over a game when scum. Pussy vote ctm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Pussy vote ctm Glad to see you finally voted someone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Unofficial Vote Count 80 (2)- Spoot, CTM Spoot (2) - 80, Verb CTM (1) - Crusher Nolder (1) - Stark Not voting (1) - Nolder 4 to lynch DEADLINE - Tuesday 4 pm ET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stark said: clearly. it could be interpreted as 2 statements. I disagree but even if that were true why would you interpret it in a way I obviously didn't mean. Or are you going to say you couldn't tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nolder said: Process of elimination. Like clearing Spoot, for instance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: You're omitting the part that Nolder bolded. i quoted both statements that applied. fair enough that i didn't go BOLD that part of the text from 80 but nolder clearly avoided acknowledging the part where 80 said the closest to town is stark. like that wasn't even there. if I am the only one that seems to have a problem with the way nolder has played the game so far then I guess that's on me. I don't need to recap the whole situation as it has been posted about plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: When a prosecutor thinks he has his guy with the evidence at hand, and the defendant pleads not guilty, he goes hard after him, using whatever resources and arguments he has available. Even if the prosecutor's intentions are good, he may (by accident or not) create a narrative about the defendant to convince the jury he's the guy. Many an innocent accused have been sent to prison because of this. And in this case of course you might well be innocent. For me to get you lynched, I'd need support. So even if I think you're scum, it's useless to be the lone voter. Sure, I could create a strong case against you. But I don't have one. We don't have a lot of content from you. My thinking on you is based more on feel/instinct and a wariness of your ability to take over a game when scum. Can you actually point to a few examples of CTM "pied pipering" or is it just a feeling in your balls? Because if you actually try attempt to build a case, and are lynched anyway, Town will at least have that to look at and consider. IMO, you should be at least trying, which you don't appear to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I can't tAke it anymore. I was holding off just on the off chance i could hammer 80 but idc anymore. Even if I'm the only one voting him I am willing to die on this hill. Vote Stark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Glad to see you finally voted someone! Least it didn't take me 30 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Stark said: look up 3 posts... Nolder has had the game "solved" since i voted him. Me and 80 are scum. he won't give a reason on 80, has avoided it since friday. then he commented the above calling it scummy. Wow, you are really twisting things here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Like clearing Spoot, for instance? Yeah. Except cooler and with lasers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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