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31 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

The Jets NEVER go 1-15 other than the one kotie year.  We then had the #1 pick and traded down.

The jets over the last 15 or more years have always won a meaningless game or so at the end of the year to just screw up the draft.

We desperately need to upgrade the oline, as in desperately.  There are 3 or 4 prime olineman out there early so of course they are projecting us to go defense because all of the olineman are gone.

If this team is a 7 win team or a 4 win team this past year who the hell cares.

I do. I prefer to have 7 wins to 4 wins. Because more wins equals more times being happy

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What we do know about Joe Douglas is that he focuses on the trenches. OL and DL. So if OL is a reach, the logical path for him would be DL. 

And honestly I believe the WR position is a tad overrated in the NFL outside of the freakish athletes. (Jeudy I would count in that category.)

 

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9 minutes ago, JetsFanShawn said:

 

And I thought it was bad when someone quoted the original and only had one small comment.  

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NO!

Many of these draft lists try to figure the best "value" pick for the team. Edge and CB are glaring needs for the team, but the first pick must be offense, ideally OT. The entire OL is a huge need.  Build around the QB, for God's sake!

Hey, if there is a run on OT early, then TRADE DOWN to a team looking to scoop up some top 5-6 player who has slipped. Then look at OT or WR, since there will still probably be good players available in the teens.

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If all the tackles are gone please reach for the best center. We don't need a reciever who won't be able to get open if we are unable to fix the line anyway.

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17 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I'm not a big college guy, but isn't 6.5 sacks on the national championship team kind of sh*tty?

Didn't Chase Young get 4 in the game vs Wisconsin? 

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10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

This. It's January. Combine is in a month. Free agency weeks after that. 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001011490/article/daniel-jeremiah-mock-draft-10-kyler-murray-lands-with-patriots

He had #1 pick Kyler Murray going way down at #32 to the Pats. Rashan Gary going #2; ended up going 12th. Josh Jacobs he mocked #5 overall; was taken 24th. Jawaan Taylor at #10; went 35th. Cody Ford #11; went 38th. He did nail the #8 pick, and mocked Bush to Pittsburgh 10 slots later, but that's it.

So a year ago his mock draft 1.0 in Jan 2019 he kinda went 2 for 32 and really went 1 for 32. January 2018 before that, he got #2 and #17 totally correct, and #23 mocked the right player to the wrong team. So kinda 3 for 32 and kinda 2 for 32.  

Point isn't that he doesn't know what he's talking about so much as the more obvious point: it's early yet. Expect about 30 of these 32 mocked picks will be wrong. 

But he Mocked Q. Williams to us, no? 

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1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Was it Jeremiah or McShay that was rumored at one point to be a potential hire for Douglas?

Whichever one it was will be interesting to see their mock projections for the Jets.  Guessing whatever they project will be the exact opposite of where the Jets actually want to go.

Daniel Jeremiah 

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1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

I also think that there is a possibility that Lions take Tua and Miami then goes with Herbert. I would bet with all the OL problems that Giants have had they draft A Thomas.

I think it will be more like this:

  1. CIN - Burrow
  2. WAS - Young
  3. DET - Tua
  4. NYG - A Thomas
  5. MIA - Herbert
  6. LAC - Wirfs
  7. CAR - Brown
  8. ARZ - Wills
  9. JAX - Okudah
  10. CLE - Jackson/ Becton
  11. NYJ - Lamb/ Jeudy

No way Was is going to pass on Tua imo. Zero chance

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Offense or gtfo

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All the lineman being gone isn't going to force Douglas to take a defensive prospect because that's who is left.  He'll take who he values most.

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2 hours ago, Warfish said:

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the Jets go Defense.

12 of the last 14 first round picks have been Defense. The other two were QB's.

Only two, Adams and QW, remain today.

Will 13 of 15 really surprise you?

We're the Jets, after all.

We've gone most of two decades without picking a WR or a RB or an O-Lineman in the first.  

The "Draft Experts" are just trolling us now. LOL. 

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49 minutes ago, section314 said:

Didn't Chase Young get 4 in the game vs Wisconsin? 

Apparently, yes.

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43 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

Hate this. But I can see it. More so I can see us passing on the top WRs. 

Inside info on this, or just a hunch?

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Only if Douglas wants to get fired before round 2!!

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He is on my 'buyer beware' list. And for the Jets, they need to straight up STAY AWAY. 

-Production not impressive at all. 

-Major injury red flags. 

-Not impressed at all with his pass rush moves- relies 100% on his athletic ability which will not get him far in the NFL. 

-Looks like he could get devoured in the run game at the NFL level. 

I wouldn't be surprised if he blew up the combine and rose on some boards. But there is no way he goes that high in the draft- for all the reasons I just mentioned. 

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1 hour ago, TeddEY said:

I'm not a big college guy, but isn't 6.5 sacks on the national championship team kind of sh*tty?

We should be drafting Olinemen and offensive weapons, so it doesnt matter anyway. 

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2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Those few wins at the end of the year after being out of the playoffs by the half way point build a winning culture so that is good.

have you thrown a game on purpose?  

they played the games and they won.  what would you have liked them to do specifically?  they sat Mosley, Jamal sat a game, herdon was IRed (along with half the team).  

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I think there’s a significantly higher chance that Chaisson throws up an insane Combine and pushes one of the tackles down the board.

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6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think there’s a significantly higher chance that Chaisson throws up an insane Combine and pushes one of the tackles down the board.

Yup. Possible. But I 100% guarantee you JD will not be looking to draft him. 

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If we pass on Jeudy and Lamb for anything other than an OT I’ll cry 

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It’s fun and all but until we see what they do in free agency it’s just a guess 

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48 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

have you thrown a game on purpose?  

they played the games and they won.  what would you have liked them to do specifically?  they sat Mosley, Jamal sat a game, herdon was IRed (along with half the team).  

No I always cheer for the team on game day.

Also this team ALWAYS wins meaningless games at the end of failed seasons and we all pat them on the back and then we have to pick Vernon Gholston and Quinnen Williams at the end of April.

Superbowl San Francisco?  Failed games last year and thus were able to pick Bosa, we picked freaking Q Williams.

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Jets 2020 NFL Mock Draft roundup: Here's who the experts have Gang Green taking

Many believe Joe Douglas will get some O-line help

By Scott Thompson | 3:31PM
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Sep 16, 2017; Louisville, KY, USA; Clemson Tigers defensive lineman Christian Wilkins (42) tries to move past Louisville Cardinals offensive lineman Mekhi Becton (73) during the second half at Papa John's Cardinal Stadium. Clemson defeated Louisville 47-21. Mandatory Credit: Jamie Rhodes-USA TODAY Sports (Jamie Rhodes) Sep 16, 2017; Louisville, KY, USA; Clemson Tigers defensive lineman Christian Wilkins (42) tries to move past Louisville Cardinals offensive lineman Mekhi Becton (73) during the second half at Papa John's Cardinal Stadium. Clemson defeated Louisville 47-21. Mandatory Credit: Jamie Rhodes-USA TODAY Sports (Jamie Rhodes)

All but two teams -- the Chiefs and 49ers -- are left to worry about their offseasons with Super Bowl LIV set for Feb. 2. While NFL free agency kicks off in March, the efforts of scouting top NFL Draft prospects will ramp up. 

The Jets have the No. 11 overall pick in this year's Draft after picking at No. 3 in 2018 and 2019. Sam Darnold and Quinnen Williams were used with those selections. 

Who will join them with the latest first round selection in GM Joe Douglas' first draft? Here's what experts believe will happen...


NFL.com: DE K'Lavon Chaisson, LSU

In Daniel Jeremiah's first mock draft of the season, he has the Jets passing on a No. 1 receiver like Jerry Jeudy and CeeDee Lamb as well as offensive line help. But Douglas still needs to upgrade his defensive line, too, and that's where this standout from the College Football Playoff comes into play. 

At 6-foot-4, 250 pounds, Chaisson was an animal to finish off his junior season. He collected 4.5 sacks in the three previous games leading up to the national championship, and though he didn't record one in that game, he was a pest to Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence. 

Gregg Williams would love to have a playmaker on the line like him, and Douglas provides that here. 

Sports Illustrated: OT Tristan Wirfs, Iowa

As we mentioned, the Jets' offensive line needs some serious work -- and that spans across every position. The tackle spots are the most important, though, and that is where the Jets improve here with a Big Ten stud. 

Wirfs, standing at 6-foot-5, 322 pounds, is a beast. The Draft Network loves his athleticism, and says "he's got grace and nimble feet despite his looming stature." That's exactly what you want out of a tackle, no matter where that will be on the line. 

Though Kelvin Beachum has been average on the left side, the Jets would much rather fix the right side first with Brandon Shell and Chuma Edoga splitting those duties last season. Beachum could always shift over to the right if the Jets wanted Wirfs on the left. Either way, he's a solid pass and run blocker that Darnold would appreciate. 

Sporting News: OT Austin Jackson, USC

Jackson has found his way up the draft ranks lately, as experts are beginning to see just how athletic he is. At 6-foot-6, 310 pounds, he's great in pass protection and he actually makes up for some technique mistakes because of the athleticism. 

That might not fly in the NFL, but the Jets are banking on developing that rawness into what could be Darnold's blindside protection for years to come. The draft process, including the NFL Combine, could boost his draft stock more after interviews and measurables come through. 

Walter Football: OT Mekhi Becton, Louisville

If you thought Wirfs and Jackson were massive, you might want to find a different word for Becton. He's 6-foot-7, 369 pounds. Let that sink in. 

When you read that height and weight, immediately thinking Becton is slow or doesn't move well would naturally come to mind. But that's the thing: you're wrong. Scouts like his technique that goes along with his pro-level power on his blocks.

Not only will Darnold love him on the left side, but Le'Veon Bell would be happy to run behind him as well. 

SB Nation: WR CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma

Not all believe O-line is the top priority for Douglas. Instead, the player many believe is the top receiver in the draft falls to the Jets and Douglas can't resist a potential No. 1 receiver for his quarterback. 

Lamb, 6-foot-2, 190 pounds, has an incredible ability to haul in the football no matter the circumstances. The Draft Network loves his ability to track the football and he has a natural way of positioning his body to seal off any chance of his defender breaking up the pass. Lamb is also very solid in route-running -- an area where some believe he beats Jeudy. 

From his play-making abilities after the catch and affinity for making deep balls count, Lamb will have a field day with Darnold throwing the pigskin his way. 

 

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3 hours ago, Warfish said:

So DT is cool then, got it.  I'll let Douglas know you prefer DT!

As long as he/she/it can get to the qb, sure.

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3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The Jets NEVER go 1-15 other than the one kotie year.  We then had the #1 pick and traded down.

The jets over the last 15 or more years have always won a meaningless game or so at the end of the year to just screw up the draft.

We desperately need to upgrade the oline, as in desperately.  There are 3 or 4 prime olineman out there early so of course they are projecting us to go defense because all of the olineman are gone.

If this team is a 7 win team or a 4 win team this past year who the hell cares.

At what point in the year should they give up? At 1-7, should they've just packed it in right there? Or after they won a couple to get off the one-win schneid? "Okay guys, you've demonstrated that you can win a couple, but any more wins and you're gonna really start to effect our draft position next year!" 

I get being unhappy with that last game of the season win that moves them from the #1 pick to #3 or something like that, but this past season was nothing like that. It was a nice second half of the year that had our young QB playing well. And frankly, our young QB playing well is a lot more important, long and short term, than a spot or two in the draft, IMHO. 

I'm just tired of this annual whine that the Jets failed to lose enough the previous year. That you're either trying to make the playoffs or you're trying to get the highest pick in the draft that you can. There's middle ground. Hate Gase all you want, but the guy is the head coach and he needs to get the team to buy into his program. That's his job. He does that by demonstrating that his way can win games. 

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55 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

No I always cheer for the team on game day.

Also this team ALWAYS wins meaningless games at the end of failed seasons and we all pat them on the back and then we have to pick Vernon Gholston and Quinnen Williams at the end of April.

Superbowl San Francisco?  Failed games last year and thus were able to pick Bosa, we picked freaking Q Williams.

You know better than that. Nobody has to pick any specific player.

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2 hours ago, PepPep said:

He is on my 'buyer beware' list. And for the Jets, they need to straight up STAY AWAY. 

-Production not impressive at all. 

-Major injury red flags. 

-Not impressed at all with his pass rush moves- relies 100% on his athletic ability which will not get him far in the NFL. 

-Looks like he could get devoured in the run game at the NFL level. 

I wouldn't be surprised if he blew up the combine and rose on some boards. But there is no way he goes that high in the draft- for all the reasons I just mentioned. 

So you're saying he's Mingo/Maybin? I tend to agree.

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