Paradis Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: When did I say it was undersized? The point is that teams aren't as concerned with BIG WRs as you are making out. That doesn't mean teams wouldn't prefer a big, speedy WR. I’m on a tropical holiday, and I don’t wanna argue. I’m not saying you’re out to lunch, nor did I specify how big they have to be. I was providing some pushback on the notion that Tyreek Hill is the new desirable prototype. I don’t think that’s accurate. There’s an appetite for speed, yes, but all things being equal such as health age etc., teams will always pick Julio Jones over Tyreek Hill IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 Bottom line we need a #1 WR both of these players fill that need. Im ok with either one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 hours ago, New York Mick said: What if he’s not available? if significant upgrade hasn't happened in FA & can't trade down, I reach for next best OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 We have to improve the offense WR,OL,RB its the only way Sam Darnold succeeds here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: Easy to say, but which one will be available? Or are you reaching for Becton? I'm not reaching for anyone. I'll just be disappointed that once again the draft falls in a way that is bad for the jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I'm not reaching for anyone. I'll just be disappointed that once again the draft falls in a way that is bad for the jets. That fair. I'm really hoping as well that Thomas, Wirfs, or Wills reaches #11. It will make the rest of the draft much better. Guy like Pittman or Johnson (Minn) in Rd 2 would be better with a top OT than other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Paradis said: I’m on a tropical holiday, and I don’t wanna argue. I’m not saying you’re out to lunch, nor did I specify how big they have to be. I was providing some pushback on the notion that Tyreek Hill is the new desirable prototype. I don’t think that’s accurate. There’s an appetite for speed, yes, but all things being equal such as health age etc., teams will always pick Julio Jones over Tyreek Hill IMO Yes, we all know that. Julio is both huge and fast. He's a freak. The Ravens, a pretty smart organisation, took Marquise Brown in the first last year despite only being 5'9. Obviously, everyone would prefer a guy to have browns or hills speed/quickness to go along with a 6'3 frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 As far as our 1st rounder, I think Joe D should take advice from this ref about which position he should draft . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If the draft fell that the top 3 OL were gone, I would take Becton. If he was gone, Jeudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'm pretty confident we are going to get a player we really want/need. The 3 QBs and Young will go, so if the worst case scenario of the top 3 OL and Jeudy/Lamb are gone that would mean we'd need 2 other potential options. Let's assume Okudah is gone so really just 1 player we like. Brown and Simmons are really the worst case scenario but you'd have to imagine there would be a lot of teams looking to move up. I'm not too worried, I'm 100% on the CeeDee Lamb train especially if we can figure out the OL in FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I'm pretty confident we are going to get a player we really want/need. The 3 QBs and Young will go, so if the worst case scenario of the top 3 OL and Jeudy/Lamb are gone that would mean we'd need 2 other potential options. Let's assume Okudah is gone so really just 1 player we like. Brown and Simmons are really the worst case scenario but you'd have to imagine there would be a lot of teams looking to move up. I'm not too worried, I'm 100% on the CeeDee Lamb train especially if we can figure out the OL in FA While I highly doubt teams will want to move up for either of those two guys, it would be incredibly ironic if the Jets finally executed a trade down scenario in the first round and the player that the other team was trading up for was a defensive tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 5:07 PM, Beerfish said: I am really hoping it does not come down to them. Nothing against two very good prospects but I'll be disappointed if we do not come away with a OT at 11. Yea losing the future Larry Fitzgerald be a real smart move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If it's between these two, flip a coin. Either one should be a Jet for the next 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 4:54 PM, Losmeister said: I favor CD slightly ... why? whats your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Jeudy if hes there....but he won't be so CeeDee Lamb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 6:06 PM, RoadFan said: Neither. OL is the absolute priority. Godwin, Golladay, and Kupp were 3rd round picks. Michael Thomas, AJ Brown, Courtland Sutton, and DJ Chark; 2nd rounders. This is a deep WR draft. A 1st round talent will be available when they pick again. PROTECT DARNOLD. I agree but it’s very likely that the top 2 tackles are gone and wills weakness is pass protection so the Jets could very likely be in a position where the best option is a WR or edge rusher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 9:42 AM, Paradis said: I’m on a tropical holiday, and I don’t wanna argue. I’m not saying you’re out to lunch, nor did I specify how big they have to be. I was providing some pushback on the notion that Tyreek Hill is the new desirable prototype. I don’t think that’s accurate. There’s an appetite for speed, yes, but all things being equal such as health age etc., teams will always pick Julio Jones over Tyreek Hill IMO Every day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Something about Jeudy reminds me of Jerry Rice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 8:46 AM, joewilly12 said: Bottom line we need a #1 WR both of these players fill that need. Im ok with either one. #metoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Larz said: I agree but it’s very likely that the top 2 tackles are gone and wills weakness is pass protection so the Jets could very likely be in a position where the best option is a WR or edge rusher Someone will get to us at 11 either Thomas or Becton Jets need to trade Adams for a first so they can also draft Lamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: why? whats your thoughts? He looks to be better at battling for the ball, and breaking tackles afer catch... i think an inch or too taller... very slightly beefier JJ is very very similar in build to the reviled Robby. He's fast and can run by you... as I have mentioned elsewhere my spidey sense has doubts that arent quite exoplkainable and, OBVIOUSLY, could be wrong... so...CD seems MORE PHYSICAL...and i think we'll need that in the short to imetrmediate range where Sam is best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Someone will get to us at 11 either Thomas or Becton Jets need to trade Adams for a first so they can also draft Lamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Losmeister said: He looks to be better at battling for the ball, and breaking tackles afer catch... i think an inch or too taller... very slightly beefier JJ is very very similar in build to the reviled Robby. He's fast and can run by you... as I have mentioned elsewhere my spidey sense has doubts that arent quite exoplkainable and, OBVIOUSLY, could be wrong... so...CD seems MORE PHYSICAL...and i think we'll need that in the short to imetrmediate range where Sam is best. I’m not knocking Jeudy but Ceedee just looks like he knows how to play the position. His body control, route running, hands, positioning, game speed it’s all there Stephen Hill ran a 4.2 40 and was 6-5 220 lbs he was physically the prototype but he had no idea how function as a WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 5:07 PM, Beerfish said: I am really hoping it does not come down to them. Nothing against two very good prospects but I'll be disappointed if we do not come away with a OT at 11. To me it all depends on what they're able to get in FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 2:32 PM, Losmeister said: He looks to be better at battling for the ball, and breaking tackles afer catch... i think an inch or too taller... very slightly beefier JJ is very very similar in build to the reviled Robby. He's fast and can run by you... as I have mentioned elsewhere my spidey sense has doubts that arent quite exoplkainable and, OBVIOUSLY, could be wrong... so...CD seems MORE PHYSICAL...and i think we'll need that in the short to imetrmediate range where Sam is best. from my reading Lamb is an inch shorter and a few lbs lighter than Jeudy.. IDK if one is more physical than the other. If we take a receiver it will probably come down to the draft combine performance and measurements, but Id lean towards Jeudy only because I ve read his routes are very precise and he seems more pro ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: from my reading Lamb is an inch shorter and a few lbs lighter than Jeudy.. IDK if one is more physical than the other. If we take a receiver it will probably come down to the draft combine performance and measurements, but Id lean towards Jeudy only because I ve read his routes are very precise and he seems more pro ready. i just type in name then height weight and thru wikipedia i get the EXACT opposite... CD 1.5 inches taller plus a kilo or so,,., not aimed at YOYU but i have asked this recently.. what METRIC is there for route running except any moke with a mic saying someone is more or less precise... unless i hear COACHES with bona fides telling me ....it means nothing to me.,.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Losmeister said: i just type in name then height weight and thru wikipedia i get the EXACT opposite... CD 1.5 inches taller plus a kilo or so,,., not aimed at YOYU but i have asked this recently.. what METRIC is there for route running except any moke with a mic saying someone is more or less precise... unless i hear COACHES with bona fides telling me ....it means nothing to me.,.. Jeudy’s routes are amazing. I still prefer Lamb but I think both are going to be really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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