joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 The NY Jets have hit a HR on a #1 draft pick in Jamal Adams he's not a bust like so many have been that have put us where we are today,nowhere. So what do NY Jets fans want to do trade away a great player for "what if' draft picks. 51 years and counting my friends.................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Joe Douglas already said NO. JD wanted the equivalent to TWO 1st round draft choices. Jerry Jones offered his 1st round draft choice and Tyron Smith. JD countered with a 1st round draft choice and Zach Martin. I agree with JD. I would have also traded Jamal for that but Jerry Jones refused and that's where the talks broke down. A 1st and a 3rd for Jamal Adams is the Jets getting fleeced. It would prove the Jets, as an organization, have no idea what the hell they're doing. It would they're the Browns of the AFCE. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is kookaburra false Yes. What happened was Dallas offered a first and a third, Douglas counteroffered 1st, 3rd, Zack Martin and more picks. The Cowboys laughed and hung up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The NY Jets have hit a HR on a #1 draft pick in Jamal Adams he's not a bust like so many have been that have put us where we are today,nowhere. So what do NY Jets fans want to do trade away a great player for "what if' draft picks. 51 years and counting my friends.................. Because that’s what smart franchises do before they have to overpay these players look at our own history the Keyshawn trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Because that’s what smart franchises do before they have to overpay these players look at our own history the Keyshawn trade Smart franchises? Overpay for talent? No team does that YEA RIGHT you are delirious my man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Because that’s what smart franchises do before they have to overpay these players look at our own history the Keyshawn trade The Jets are NOT a smart franchise. I mean why the hell do you think there's so many Jets fans ready to slit their throats on this website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: His QB rating when targeted is among the top 5 in the NFL among safeties. The narrative that he can't and doesn't cover is just, ugh. In that game vs washington where jamal was lauded as being a huge difference maker he was cooked badly on that play and Washington score a long rushing td when he was on the end if the line going forward. He is probably asked to cover less than most safeties in the league. Why? We have a lousy pass rush. He makes plays, no disputing that but he also gives up big plays and our defense is at risk because of the way he is deployed. We had Hewitt covering down filed so often lat year, why? Because the SS was doing something up in the line. This team will be much better off with some pass rushers and a SS that only plays at the line when called for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yes. What happened was Dallas offered a first and a third, Douglas counteroffered 1st, 3rd, Zack Martin and more picks. The Cowboys laughed and hung up. Cowboys never offered the one and the three. It was a one and a backup corner, or a one and flip of later picks. Bottom line, they didn’t want Adams all that much and were ok sticking with Heath Bellol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2019/10/29/cowboys-have-consideration-in-the-mill-before-tuesdays-trade-deadline/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The NY Jets have hit a HR on a #1 draft pick in Jamal Adams Ground rule double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Cowboys never offered the one and the three. It was a one and a backup corner, or a one and flip of later picks. Bottom line, they didn’t want Adams all that much and were ok sticking with Heath Bellol. They didn't want Adams all that much but they offered a 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Smart franchises? Overpay for talent? No team does that YEA RIGHT you are delirious my man. It’s delirious to trade an asset for more assets that are cheaper and potentially better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: In that game vs washington where jamal was lauded as being a huge difference maker he was cooked badly on that play and Washington score a long rushing td when he was on the end if the line going forward. What’s weird about the PFF number for Adams is that we watch the games and we see him give up TDs, but then PFF is always like “Oooh Jamal Adams posted an 89.9 grade for this week’s game.” I remember they used to do the same thing with Kerry Rhodes, who actually ranked higher on PFF than Adams does on a week to week basis. Their criteria is just odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Ground rule double Bean ball @T0mShane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: They didn't want Adams all that much but they offered a 1? If they wanted him and thought he’d be the difference between winning the Super Bowl or not winning a Super Bowl, tossing in the third shouldn’t have been too costly, you’d think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Cowboys never offered the one and the three. It was a one and a backup corner, or a one and flip of later picks. Bottom line, they didn’t want Adams all that much and were ok sticking with Heath Bellol. https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/03/dallas-cowboys-trade-attempt-jamal-adams-zack-martin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: It’s delirious to trade an asset for more assets that are cheaper and potentially better? Unknown asset that may never amount to being considered potentially better vs All-Pro top NFL player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Samtorobby47 said: I don’t give a F what you wanna call him. He’s playing at a high level, effects those around him and continues to make game changing plays. High level at stuff that doesn't matter. Hence why he's led us to 16 wins over 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: His QB rating when targeted is among the top 5 in the NFL among safeties. The narrative that he can't and doesn't cover is just, ugh. How often is he tasked with covering WRs in that mix? He's solid at covering RBs and TEs in the Gronkless AFC East. Let's pay him $15M+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: High level at stuff that doesn't matter. Hence why he's led us to 16 wins over 3 years. Again it's all Jamal Adams fault? Don't ignore the question again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/03/dallas-cowboys-trade-attempt-jamal-adams-zack-martin/ There were a ton of rumors flying around, particularly after the trade fizzled out, and all of those rumors were in favor of the Cowboys. Jerry Jones did the same thing with Amari Cooper when he was on the Raiders—tries to force a team’s hand by putting a bunch of nonsense into the newsfeed and hopes the opposing GM buckles. The thought that Douglas would ask for Tyron Smith is bananas, but if you were a Cowboys fan, you’d likewise say hell no to trading your stud left tackle for a safety. It’s spin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: High level at stuff that doesn't matter. Hence why he's led us to 16 wins over 3 years. Lol. Yes, football is definitely a one man game. Makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: You're drinking too much, beerfish. This has got to be probably the most nitwitted post you've ever typed. I will bet you ANY amount of money that you are wrong and not just wrong, but going down in flames WRONG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Samtorobby47 said: Lol. Yes, football is definitely a one man game. Makes sense. I thought Jamal made his teammates better and was Leadery McLeader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Samtorobby47 said: Lol. Yes, football is definitely a one man game. Makes sense. Don't waste your time unless of course you have time to waste with @Jetsfan80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I thought Jamal made his teammates better and was Leadery McLeader. Cant make chicken soup out of chicken sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: How often is he tasked with covering WRs in that mix? He's solid at covering RBs and TEs in the Gronkless AFC East. Let's pay him $15M+. I’m interested to see what the numbers are that PFF used to get to their coverage grades, and how many times Adams is actually “in coverage” in games vs how many times, say, Minkah Fitzpatrick is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I thought Jamal made his teammates better and was Leadery McLeader/ He is leader mcleader. Doesn’t mean he can give them his elite powers, cmon now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Samtorobby47 said: He is leader mcleader. Doesn’t mean he can give them his elite powers, cmon now. Oh, so he doesn't actually do anything significant to help the team win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Unknown asset that may never amount to being considered potentially better vs All-Pro top NFL player. Would you trade All Pro Jamal Adams—on the verge of getting a massive contract—for a high-end 23 year old right tackle prospect right now? Like, would you trade Jamal Adams for Tristan Wirfs right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Oh, so he doesn't actually do anything significant to help the team win. You’re drunk. Go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: How often is he tasked with covering WRs in that mix? He's solid at covering RBs and TEs in the Gronkless AFC East. Let's pay him $15M+. How often are safeties covering Wrs 1 on 1 in any defense? Show me a defense that asks their safeties to covers WRs 1 on 1 often and I'll show you a bad defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: You’re drunk. Go home. Answer the question first then I'll order my uber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: How often are safeties covering Wrs 1 on 1 in any defense? Show me a defense that asks their safeties to covers WRs 1 on 1 often and I'll show you a bad defense. Is it any better than asking your SS to be a pass-rusher because he isn't strong in coverage? Plenty of S's are asked to cover WRs. Those are FS/CB hybrids. And there are quite a few of those who are more valuable to their team than Mr Pro Bowl Jamal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Would you trade All Pro Jamal Adams—on the verge of getting a massive contract—for a high-end 23 year old right tackle prospect right now? Like, would you trade Jamal Adams for Tristan Wirfs right now? God don't make me choose! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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