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Damn me for posting a Jets update on a Jets forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Every tweet needs a thread Every OL who isn’t under contract will be rumored to be a Jet landing spot Meaningless today

There’s no reason why the Jets shouldn’t be able to walk away with two of Conklin, Thuney, Scherff or Glasgow come March. The OL and WR corps has to be Douglas’ top priority. Stuff like corn

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2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Every tweet needs a thread

Every OL who isn’t under contract will be rumored to be a Jet landing spot


Meaningless today

Pretty much agree.  When you need five new starters on your line, every swinging-dick available has to be on your list of options...

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2 hours ago, Untouchable said:

There’s no reason why the Jets shouldn’t be able to walk away with two of Conklin, Thuney, Scherff or Glasgow come March.

The OL and WR corps has to be Douglas’ top priority.

Stuff like corner and edge can wait.

Don’t neglect the only hope we’ve had at QB in half a century.

I agree 100%. I also believe that Gregg Williams feels like he can work with some of the younger players they have and some pieces they might add later in the draft to help with defensive deficiencies currently on the roster- i.e. edge and CB. 

Having said that, I would not be surprised if they resigned Maulet, Jenkins and set aside some money for a CB (either to resign Poole or to let Poole walk and sign a FA CB to play on the outside across from Bless). That's a solid chunk of the cap right there. Not to mention the ILB FAs Burgess and Hewitt, who will both want to cash in on their good play. And, of course, if Jamal Adams is extended you can probably deduct around 7mil from the available cap.  

The other question which you haven't brought up is- can they afford not to bring back Beachum? I mean, he will cost around 10+ mil on a short term deal as a stop gap. But if they don't bring him back and don't get Conklin to play LT then they are relying on a rookie OT to start on the left side. So its not that simple. I think the Jets pretty much have to bring back Beachum and can really only go after one big name FA, the rest JD will have to fix by drafting O-line early and often and signing quality mid-level players, finagling a trade or clearing more cap somehow. Which is fine. It can be done. I'll be happy with Scherff or Thuney or Glasgow, Beachum, Wirfs or Wills or Becton, and one of the top rookie OGs (Rd. 2 or 3) with Harrison getting a shot to start at C. That would be a much improved O-line from this past season.    

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3 hours ago, Untouchable said:

There’s no reason why the Jets shouldn’t be able to walk away with two of Conklin, Thuney, Scherff or Glasgow come March.

The OL and WR corps has to be Douglas’ top priority.

Stuff like corner and edge can wait.

Don’t neglect the only hope we’ve had at QB in half a century.

i think it would be great if the jets could land 2 really good olinemen in free agency.  that would take some pressure off having to use the top draft picks on oline.

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4 hours ago, chirorob said:

I miss the Rutgers Grease Trucks.

I'm old enough to remember when they were in front of the freshman dorms, until one of them caught on fire and burned down.

Best food in town after a long night of partying at a frat house on Union St. 

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2 hours ago, rangerous said:

i think it would be great if the jets could land 2 really good olinemen in free agency.  that would take some pressure off having to use the top draft picks on oline.

Absolutely 

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8 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

No wannabe aspirations.  You guys have a hard job!

Sorry, thought maybe a thread with all of these tweets would make for a cleaner front page than lots of threads on the same topic

Irs been said before, sorry

It’s the off season what else is more important to talk about?

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4 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Best food in town after a long night of partying at a frat house on Union St. 

You’re 76 years old and you haven’t been awake after 9:30 p.m. since the late eighties

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4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You’re 76 years old and you haven’t been awake after 9:30 p.m. since the late eighties

Listen to the home school graduate making fun of old people. 

Remember something son, if you are lucky enough you too will grow old. 

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5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Estimated cap space $56,337,397

Not including projected cuts

 

Okay. And if you give a guard 10 million, plus 10 million for Anderson, and 15 million for Adams, and how many million for Jenkins and how many million for Beachum? It’s going to evaporate quickly.  

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59 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

It’s the off season what else is more important to talk about?

Actual facts?  
My point was it says nothing.  And it says nothing. 
I explained myself how’s ago, said o was sorry.  Amazing how many since have negged rep it.  Oh well. 

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1 minute ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Okay. And if you give a guard 10 million, plus 10 million for Anderson, and 15 million for Adams, and how many million for Jenkins and how many million for Beachum? It’s going to evaporate quickly.  

 OG Kelechi Osemele: Osemele would eat up $11.7 million in cap space if the Jets keep him around for 2020. But if they cut him, they would free up all of that money, with zero dead cap penalty.

 LB Avery Williamson: The Jets’ starting inside linebacker comes with an $8.5 million cap hit next season, but if Douglas were to cut him, he’d have to eat just $2 million in dead money. So, it would be an effective savings of $6.5 million.

 


 OG Brian Winters: All of the guaranteed money in Winters’ deal has already been paid out, meaning the Jets could cut him at any point with no dead money. If they did, they’d save $7.5 million in 2020 cap space.

 CB Darryl Roberts: Roberts’ two-year deal has all the guaranteed money front loaded into 2019. So, if he’s cut at the end of this season, the Jets would free up $6 million in 2020 cap space without a dead-money hit.

 WR Josh Bellamy: Like Roberts, Bellamy is playing on a two-year deal, but has all of the guarantees in year one. Cutting him before 2020 would give the Jets and extra $2.25 million in cap space without penalty.

 C Jonotthan Harrison: Harrison is due more money than Bellamy in 2019, but their contracts look exactly the same in 2020. So, dumping him would also add $2.25 million to the salary cap without penalty.

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Good article from Connor the other day..

 

Could the Jets pass on an offensive lineman for a Wr in the first Rd?

MOBILE, Ala.  — Joe Douglas spent four years as Richmond’s left tackle. He grew up working for a man (Ozzie Newsome) and in an organization (Ravens) that prided itself on dominating the line of scrimmage. And then he spent the last six months — his first as Jets general manager  — learning exactly what happens when you don’t.

It’s easy to connect these dots: The Jets will draft an offensive lineman with their first pick in this year’s draft.

Unless they don’t.

Because as crazy as it sounds, there’s a growing belief New York might get Darnold’s go-to guy before his blindside protector.

And … that actually makes some sense.

Once you get your quarterback – or the player you believe has franchise quarterback potential – you do everything you can to surround him with talent, make his life easier, and expedite his development to win while still on his rookie contract. The Rams did it for Jared Goff when they traded for Brandin Cooks. The Eagles helped Carson Wentz by signing Alshon Jeffery. The Browns traded for Jarvis Landry, then Odell Beckham Jr., to assist Baker Mayfield. The Bears signed Allen Robinson for Mitch Trubisky and the Chiefs got Sammy Watkins for Patrick Mahomes.

Each of those teams, absent the Browns, made the playoffs within two years of drafting their quarterback. The Rams reached the Super Bowl in Year 3. The Chiefs are there now.

While ex-Jets GM Mike Maccagnan found a rare mid-round gem in tight end Chris Herndon and signed safety blanket Jamison Crowder as a free agent last March, he struggled to add playmakers like those provided to Goff, Wentz, Mahomes, Trubisky and Mayfield during his two years with Darnold. Robby Anderson isn’t more than a deep threat and it seems unlikely he re-signs with the Jets. Quincy Enunwa might not play again after a second season-ending neck injury in three years, and considering his unveiled shots at the medical team and coaching staff, his physical won’t be the only reason why. Vyncint Smith and Braxton Berrios have talent, but are far from players whom the Jets can count on.

The Jets need to give Darnold a No. 1 receiver — and if Anderson walks, they need a No. 2, too — if they want him to reach similar early-career success as those passers above.

While “there’s a chance,” sources told The Athletic, that Pro Bowl wideout Amari Cooper hits free agency, it’s a slim one. In all likelihood, he’ll either re-sign in Dallas or the Cowboys will slap him with the franchise tag. That would leave Emmanuel Sanders and A.J. Green as the top-two options on the open market. Both players are past their primes, ring-hunting, and don’t make sense for New York. But while free agency lacks difference-makers, the draft is littered with them.

Oklahoma’s CeeDee Lamb should be there at No. 11. He caught 127 passes for 2,485 yards and 25 touchdowns the previous two years. Some scouts compare him to Texans’ All-Pro DeAndre Hopkins. Alabama’s pair of pass-catchers, Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs, both entered the draft.  They flourished under Tua Tagovailoa. Jeudy, who caught 68 passes for 1,315 yards and 14 touchdowns last year, might be a better prospect than Lamb. Ruggs isn’t Jeudy, but proved he’s a quality player himself with 46 grabs for 741 yards and 11 scores.

After those three are Clemson’s Tee Higgins, USC’s Michael Pittman Jr. and Colorado’s Laviska Shenault. While none project to be the next Julio Jones, they have No. 1 potential. They can grow with Darnold. They can be his Jeffery … or Watkins … or Cooks … or Beckham. He can flourish with them, Herndon and Crowder.

Granted, it won’t matter if he doesn’t have time to get them the ball.

Years of neglect (just three linemen drafted within the first three rounds since 2010) finally caught up with the Jets in 2019. Their front five wasn’t good to start, then three projected starters (Kelechi Osemele, Ryan Kalil, Brian Winters) landed on the injured reserve while the other two (Kelvin Beachum, Chuma Edoga) were sidelined for significant periods. Defenders sacked Darnold, Trevor Siemian, Luke Falk and David Fales 52 times (fourth-most in NFL) and hit them 106 (fifth-most). Former All-Pro back Le’Veon Bell averaged a career-low 3.2 yards per carry. The routine protection and fundamental breakdowns neutered any potential Adam Gase’s offense had.

The Jets need three or potentially four new starters up front — a near-complete overhaul. It doesn’t matter who the Jets split wide if Darnold doesn’t have time to throw to them.

So why would the Jets even consider a wideout first?

While most scouts don’t believe there’s a player like Quenton Nelson, the Colts’ All-Pro guard, in this year’s class, there are three top-tier players projected to hear their names called within the first 15 picks. Alabama’s Jedrick Wills is separating himself as the top tackle, followed by Tristan Wirfs (Iowa) and Andrew Thomas (Georgia). Wills won’t fall to No. 11. While Wirfs or Thomas might — and if they do Douglas will swim across the fountain in Vegas to hand his draft card in —there’s a growing belief none of the three will make it to 11.

Playing off this, in our Dane Brugler’s latest mock draft, the Giants draft Wills fourth overall, the Cardinals take Wirfs at eight, and the Browns snag Thomas at 10.

Things, obviously, can change. But if they don’t, and those Big 3 are gone, would Douglas reach for someone like Louisville’s Mekhi Becton, Georgia’s Isaiah Wilson or USC’s Austin Jackson?

Abandoning the draft board for need doesn’t seem like something Douglas, who learned from Newsome, would do. Especially considering a run on tackles would assuredly drop a top-tier receiver right in the Jets’ lap. At No. 11, the Jets wouldn’t reach for Lamb, Jeudy or Ruggs like they would Becton, Wilson or Jackson.

There aren’t many intriguing receivers in free agency. That’s not the case on the offensive line. It’s unclear if the Redskins will tag Pro Bowl guard Brandon Scherff, but the Patriots’ Joe Thuney will be free. He’s never missed a start in four years and is only starting to scratch his potential. Douglas has the cap space ($51 million before veteran releases) to sign Thuney and Scherff or sign one of the two and re-sign Alex Lewis, who played well after the Jets acquired him via trade.

That would fortify the interior of the Jets’ offensive line. They’d then get their No. 1 receiver at No. 11.

And then Douglas has options.

In his latest mock, Brugler has Jackson to the Titans with the 29th pick and Wilson to the Vikings at No. 25.  The Jets have their second-round pick (No. 48), and two third rounders (their own and the Giants). Douglas could package that second and one of the thirds to move back into the first round.

Douglas can also play the long game. Kelvin Beachum isn’t Jonathan Ogden, but still an above-average tackle. The Jets can sign him to a team-friendly deal to return as their bridge starter and target Houston’s Josh Jones in the second round. In the third, they can look for a center.

This isn’t an easy job for Douglas. There’s a reason the Jets haven’t made the playoffs in nine long years. There’s a reason he wouldn’t agree to fix Maccagnan’s mess for cheap. And there’s a reason Christopher Johnson handed him a six-year contract in early June. Douglas knows — to get the Jets where they need to be — he needs to fix the offensive line and he needs to give Darnold playmakers to help him reach his potential.

Douglas raved at his introductory press conference about building a team that can “impose” its will and to do that, “you have to be strong up-front.”

That’s where it starts with the Jets.

But that doesn’t mean that’s how they’ll use their first pick.

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