Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mafia - Game Thread

[Integrity28]

I’m ready to principle lynch gata

[Integrity28]

So why NK jetscode?

- he came around to agreeing about boozer

- was it because boozer is scum and he’s eliminating a threat

- was it because boozer is town, and killing HC makes boozer look clean

- how is it that a game with 3 assumed/confirmed town carries all 3 to the near end?

- gata is gf

[32EBoozer]

5 hours ago, deckerfan said:

ok suit yourself, posting/reading now in case cuz might be voted out before afternoon lol 

 

sup, u said ur mafia caareer is over or something, have u enjoyed playing and do u think u have a good grasp on game mechanics, in particular day and night phases now? uve seemed kinda lost 

Thanks for pointing out the day/night phases. Lost.... in the fact I have little desire to read over the 12 pages of posts in the last 24 hours and cut/paste them into a 1/2 page post to make my case. I’m a townie hoping to bring a win for my other town homies. Apart from that I probably won’t be playing this game again. I didn’t want to have JF80 find another replacement for me. Ape came in and blew everything up and has sowed seeds of confusion. I hope he’s able to right the ship, gather his composure and help find the he final scum. 

[deckerfan]

On 2/4/2020 at 8:25 AM, Jetsfan80 said:

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Just now, 32EBoozer said:

Thanks for pointing out the day/night phases. Lost.... in the fact I have little desire to read over the 12 pages of posts in the last 24 hours and cut/paste them into a 1/2 page post to make my case. I’m a townie hoping to bring a win for my other town homies. Apart from that I probably won’t be playing this game again. I didn’t want to have JF80 find another replacement for me. Ape came in and blew everything up and has sowed seeds of confusion. I hope he’s able to right the ship, gather his composure and help find the he final scum. 

I quoted post #2 of the thread. did you miss it when the game started? 

also, whats wrong with confusion? thats the the game is about for non-useless players to try to sovle the game, cant trust no one. just plain text 

but u kept up in real time recently though? so umm 

back to what i was getting at, why do you think im scum?

[32EBoozer]

Just now, deckerfan said:

 

I quoted post #2 of the thread. did you miss it when the game started? 

also, whats wrong with confusion? thats the the game is about for non-useless players to try to sovle the game, cant trust no one. just plain text 

but u kept up in real time recently though? so umm 

back to what i was getting at, why do you think im scum?

Dart board challenge 

After a few beers even the most stupid things make sense. 

[deckerfan]

Just now, 32EBoozer said:

Dart board challenge 

After a few beers even the most stupid things make sense. 

okay. i cant talk i do this too lol i once lynched this town beer bottle avatar dude because "i saw him flip scum in a dreamnightmare" 

why were u blaming others for the lynch yesterday then, getting a bit smarmy about it 

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

Day 9 Vote Count

• Decker (1) - Boozer
• Boozer (1) - Ape

 

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.

[deckerfan]

24 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Thanks for pointing out the day/night phases. Lost.... in the fact I have little desire to read over the 12 pages of posts in the last 24 hours and cut/paste them into a 1/2 page post to make my case. I’m a townie hoping to bring a win for my other town homies. Apart from that I probably won’t be playing this game again. I didn’t want to have JF80 find another replacement for me. Ape came in and blew everything up and has sowed seeds of confusion. I hope he’s able to right the ship, gather his composure and help find the he final scum. 

case on me or on behalf of urself? either way, can u just spilil it out really quicckly

ur welcome to ask me queestions to u know   

 

[GATA]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

I’m ready to principle lynch gata

Like maybe go to my post where I pretty much said what I was ... No ? 

[Gone]

I'm trying to read up a bit since I have a bit of spare time today.

started with dicker. I won't go on about all of his content but I'll refer to stuff that caught my eye.

He came in saying he was current with the game and commented on how there have been a lot of speedlynches up until then. What strikes me as odd with his OP is that I would have expected him to drop some insight straight up if he was following along, which he chose not to. Even noting the speedlynches he didn't really infer anything from it.

Later on he follows it up with a telling people to ask him whatever they want because his slot is "not supposed to last long but he subbed in despite of that". I guess that slot was getting negative attention but I don't like the passive role he took straight away where he expected people to ask him questions but not being proactive and scumhunting. I could sorta get that stance initially if he wasn't caught up but that wasn't the case.

A bit later he does give out his thoughts. Some rambling about how he thought he was walking into a scum slot initially but that wasn't the case. His reads in a nutshell are scum suss: Jvor, JC (now known town). town leans:  Gata, drums, bum... basically all the noobs (feels pretty non-committal on his part and gives a lot of wiggle room to shift as he chooses going forward based on what direction the game takes). Later he says that if he had to choose one noob that could be scum, maybe beaver (based on a hunch). Eh. He follows all this up by voting for Jvor. Easy place to drop a vote and not take an actual stance in the main trains.

Later he soft defends beaver when someone foses him for saying he has no role. He reiterates that he thinks beaver might be scum and makes some comment about me being a wild card but his vote stays on jvor the entire time. He follows that up with this recap from D1 to N5 that is basically useless as he doesn't really infer anything from it that I saw.

A while later he uvotes jvor, suddenly switches his stance on Beaver and says he won't vote him cause he seems like a townie making bad play (atp the VC is 4 votes on beaver and 3 votes on GATA). This comes across as backtracking on his part as I didn't really see a progression for this 180 on Beaver. It doesn't help that even when he was soft fosing him his vote was parked on jvor the entire time.

Some back and forth posts with JC where he defends beaver against jc and says he won't vote cause the lynch will come to pass regardless (???). If he and beaver are scummates that's an odd stance to make. At that point he should have just bussed him and not made a whole show about not voting him. This gives me pause. He also says he won't vote gata. Again conflicting, cause as scum he either busses his partner if he thinks he's a goner or move his vote to gata. BUT voting gata would have contradicted his earlier read of her so...

Next day phase he votes bum as a yolo vote following the dead reads. His vote is second after Gata and bum gets lynched pretty swiftly in like 10 hours. Hard to interpret this as he seemed like a shoe in to get strung up that day phase. Bussing would be ideal, but the question is if dicker would be so inclined. gata and him voted right after AJ got nightkilled and day started.... timing itself feels a bit iffy but I'm not gonna get into gaming the mod territory.

He nudged me a bit with me thinking the lynch on bum went really quick (I missed two phases in the space of sleep+work). Claimed the beaver lynch was just as quick. Some pointless rambling about scum prolly getting Nolder to a 1:2 situation. And how we're all welcome to lynch him to resolve his slot. Following dead town reads instead of his own thoughts. Not wanting to place a vote atm. And more of that basically.

 

 

To sum up, there's a lot of self deprecating posts and going on about how he won't last long in the game. He walked into the game informed but chose to be pretty passive and sheep rather than have independent thought.  I could definitely see some scummate equity between him and beaver. He was lightly scum reading him but never placed a vote. When the cards got dealt and bevear got real pressure suddenly he was town reading him. The only head scratcher is why he did't vote gata after opting not to bus beaver. With bum there's less scummate equity. Unless they resolved ahead of time that he was bussing the bejesus out of him to distance and trying to make himself look better as they were both in the PoE.

 

 

 

[32EBoozer]

11 minutes ago, deckerfan said:

case on me or on behalf of urself? either way, can u just spilil it out really quicckly

ur welcome to ask me queestions to u know   

 

Tell you what. I appreciate your effort. I will unvote  you for now, take the time to review your history and  reconsider how I vote. 

[GATA]

4 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

I'm trying to read up a bit since I have a bit of spare time today.

started with dicker. I won't go on about all of his content but I'll refer to stuff that caught my eye.

He came in saying he was current with the game and commented on how there have been a lot of speedlynches up until then. What strikes me as odd with his OP is that I would have expected him to drop some insight straight up if he was following along, which he chose not to. Even noting the speedlynches he didn't really infer anything from it.

Later on he follows it up with a telling people to ask him whatever they want because his slot is "not supposed to last long but he subbed in despite of that". I guess that slot was getting negative attention but I don't like the passive role he took straight away where he expected people to ask him questions but not being proactive and scumhunting. I could sorta get that stance initially if he wasn't caught up but that wasn't the case.

A bit later he does give out his thoughts. Some rambling about how he thought he was walking into a scum slot initially but that wasn't the case. His reads in a nutshell are scum suss: Jvor, JC (now known town). town leans:  Gata, drums, bum... basically all the noobs (feels pretty non-committal on his part and gives a lot of wiggle room to shift as he chooses going forward based on what direction the game takes). Later he says that if he had to choose one noob that could be scum, maybe beaver (based on a hunch). Eh. He follows all this up by voting for Jvor. Easy place to drop a vote and not take an actual stance in the main trains.

Later he soft defends beaver when someone foses him for saying he has no role. He reiterates that he thinks beaver might be scum and makes some comment about me being a wild card but his vote stays on jvor the entire time. He follows that up with this recap from D1 to N5 that is basically useless as he doesn't really infer anything from it that I saw.

A while later he uvotes jvor, suddenly switches his stance on Beaver and says he won't vote him cause he seems like a townie making bad play (atp the VC is 4 votes on beaver and 3 votes on GATA). This comes across as backtracking on his part as I didn't really see a progression for this 180 on Beaver. It doesn't help that even when he was soft fosing him his vote was parked on jvor the entire time.

Some back and forth posts with JC where he defends beaver against jc and says he won't vote cause the lynch will come to pass regardless (???). If he and beaver are scummates that's an odd stance to make. At that point he should have just bussed him and not made a whole show about not voting him. This gives me pause. He also says he won't vote gata. Again conflicting, cause as scum he either busses his partner if he thinks he's a goner or move his vote to gata. BUT voting gata would have contradicted his earlier read of her so...

Next day phase he votes bum as a yolo vote following the dead reads. His vote is second after Gata and bum gets lynched pretty swiftly in like 10 hours. Hard to interpret this as he seemed like a shoe in to get strung up that day phase. Bussing would be ideal, but the question is if dicker would be so inclined. gata and him voted right after AJ got nightkilled and day started.... timing itself feels a bit iffy but I'm not gonna get into gaming the mod territory.

He nudged me a bit with me thinking the lynch on bum went really quick (I missed two phases in the space of sleep+work). Claimed the beaver lynch was just as quick. Some pointless rambling about scum prolly getting Nolder to a 1:2 situation. And how we're all welcome to lynch him to resolve his slot. Following dead town reads instead of his own thoughts. Not wanting to place a vote atm. And more of that basically.

 

 

To sum up, there's a lot of self deprecating posts and going on about how he won't last long in the game. He walked into the game informed but chose to be pretty passive and sheep rather than have independent thought.  I could definitely see some scummate equity between him and beaver. He was lightly scum reading him but never placed a vote. When the cards got dealt and bevear got real pressure suddenly he was town reading him. The only head scratcher is why he did't vote gata after opting not to bus beaver. With bum there's less scummate equity. Unless they resolved ahead of time that he was bussing the bejesus out of him to distance and trying to make himself look better as they were both in the PoE.

that’s what I thought after the beaver non vote he bussed to show face that’s why he was my top 2 

Ape was saying we should vote boozer and right now with all the back and forth and 32a rejection to actually case it makes it hard for me not to think this might be the right approach as well. 
 

[Gone]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

So why NK jetscode?

- he came around to agreeing about boozer

- was it because boozer is scum and he’s eliminating a threat

- was it because boozer is town, and killing HC makes boozer look clean

- how is it that a game with 3 assumed/confirmed town carries all 3 to the near end?

- gata is gf

Which do you think is more likely?

[Gone]

1 minute ago, GATA said:

that’s what I thought after the beaver non vote he bussed to show face that’s why he was my top 2 

Ape was saying we should vote boozer and right now with all the back and forth and 32a rejection to actually case it makes it hard for me not to think this might be the right approach as well. 
 

If you're a godfather I will literally cry

[deckerfan]

Just now, Nynaeve said:

I'm trying to read up a bit since I have a bit of spare time today.

started with dicker. I won't go on about all of his content but I'll refer to stuff that caught my eye.

He came in saying he was current with the game and commented on how there have been a lot of speedlynches up until then. What strikes me as odd with his OP is that I would have expected him to drop some insight straight up if he was following along, which he chose not to. Even noting the speedlynches he didn't really infer anything from it.

i didnt have any insight, the strong townleaderes found scum with their methods. i asked to replacee in on a whim 

Later on he follows it up with a telling people to ask him whatever they want because his slot is "not supposed to last long but he subbed in despite of that". I guess that slot was getting negative attention but I don't like the passive role he took straight away where he expected people to ask him questions but not being proactive and scumhunting. I could sorta get that stance initially if he wasn't caught up but that wasn't the case.

i agree with this. 

A bit later he does give out his thoughts. Some rambling about how he thought he was walking into a scum slot initially but that wasn't the case. His reads in a nutshell are scum suss: Jvor, JC (now known town). town leans:  Gata, drums, bum... basically all the noobs (feels pretty non-committal on his part and gives a lot of wiggle room to shift as he chooses going forward based on what direction the game takes). Later he says that if he had to choose one noob that could be scum, maybe beaver (based on a hunch). Eh. He follows all this up by voting for Jvor. Easy place to drop a vote and not take an actual stance in the main trains.

this is fine

Later he soft defends beaver when someone foses him for saying he has no role. He reiterates that he thinks beaver might be scum and makes some comment about me being a wild card but his vote stays on jvor the entire time. He follows that up with this recap from D1 to N5 that is basically useless as he doesn't really infer anything from it that I saw.

like i said, i thoguht beaver was the lynch that day regardless. i repeated that many times. im not a scumhuntere in general (regardless of alignemnt), which is why i play 1 game a year just for funs the past few years. no tan excuse, but ii thought beaver was going down. bum or me was going to go down the next day regardless. i thought gata was a helpful town with the newbies. me following the games lately was just MAFIA IS B ACK, and then eventually i wanna get in on the action late since this ending might sputter with inactives

A while later he uvotes jvor, suddenly switches his stance on Beaver and says he won't vote him cause he seems like a townie making bad play (atp the VC is 4 votes on beaver and 3 votes on GATA). This comes across as backtracking on his part as I didn't really see a progression for this 180 on Beaver. It doesn't help that even when he was soft fosing him his vote was parked on jvor the entire time.

yeah this is true. i had second thoughts once he said "i have no role" . it sounded like clueless town newbie

Some back and forth posts with JC where he defends beaver against jc and says he won't vote cause the lynch will come to pass regardless (???). If he and beaver are scummates that's an odd stance to make. At that point he should have just bussed him and not made a whole show about not voting him. This gives me pause. He also says he won't vote gata. Again conflicting, cause as scum he either busses his partner if he thinks he's a goner or move his vote to gata. BUT voting gata would have contradicted his earlier read of her so...

i thought g ata was town after d1, as a spectator, jsut readin teh game for fun. that was maybe the one read i felt strongly about. doesnt mean anything to anyone who doesnt know my alignemnt, but this wa sjust wrong place at hte wrong time. i thoguht beaver lynch was happening regardless of what i vote cuz im not one to push any sor of lynches or pressure people, fell for the newbie town card, and after the day ended i KNEW i was boned for it

Next day phase he votes bum as a yolo vote following the dead reads. His vote is second after Gata and bum gets lynched pretty swiftly in like 10 hours. Hard to interpret this as he seemed like a shoe in to get strung up that day phase. Bussing would be ideal, but the question is if dicker would be so inclined. gata and him voted right after AJ got nightkilled and day started.... timing itself feels a bit iffy but I'm not gonna get into gaming the mod territory.

i was just trying to get the bum + me concurrent lynch that AJ/JVOR wanted over with, either way, and resolve that stuff

He nudged me a bit with me thinking the lynch on bum went really quick (I missed two phases in the space of sleep+work). Claimed the beaver lynch was just as quick. Some pointless rambling about scum prolly getting Nolder to a 1:2 situation. And how we're all welcome to lynch him to resolve his slot. Following dead town reads instead of his own thoughts. Not wanting to place a vote atm. And more of that basically.

i always follow dead town, doesnt matter alignment. and yes I nudged u because ur slot was empty, i was just trying to get ppl to talk. thats why i made comments to drums too

 

To sum up, there's a lot of self deprecating posts and going on about how he won't last long in the game. He walked into the game informed but chose to be pretty passive and sheep rather than have independent thought.  I could definitely see some scummate equity between him and beaver. He was lightly scum reading him but never placed a vote. When the cards got dealt and bevear got real pressure suddenly he was town reading him. The only head scratcher is why he did't vote gata after opting not to bus beaver. With bum there's less scummate equity. Unless they resolved ahead of time that he was bussing the bejesus out of him to distance and trying to make himself look better as they were both in the PoE.

fair enough and thanks for this recap of ur thoughts if ur town 

 

 

[deckerfan]

5 minutes ago, GATA said:

that’s what I thought after the beaver non vote he bussed to show face that’s why he was my top 2 

Ape was saying we should vote boozer and right now with all the back and forth and 32a rejection to actually case it makes it hard for me not to think this might be the right approach as well. 
 

just decide for yourself  theres a ton of stuff out there 

[GATA]

6 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

If you're a godfather I will literally cry

I’m not

...

[deckerfan]

13 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

28 minutes ago, deckerfan said:

case on me or on behalf of urself? either way, can u just spilil it out really quicckly

ur welcome to ask me queestions to u know   

 

Tell you what. I appreciate your effort. I will unvote  you for now, take the time to review your history and  reconsider how I vote. 

do whatever floats ur boat, if ur town and u think im the rightvote in ur mind then vote me,  forget what other ppl think and, if not, dont and vote esomeone else or hold off 

[Gone]

1 minute ago, GATA said:

I’m not

I basically revealed days ago and technically before a couple of flips with a similar character. 

Character reveals aren't allowed so I won't be responding to this with anything beyond this.

[deckerfan]

15 minutes ago, GATA said:

that’s what I thought after the beaver non vote he bussed to show face that’s why he was my top 2 
 

after the beavaer lynch, AJ and JVOR made it clear that they wanted me and bum gone in no particular order. i was just speeding up the procecss regardless of what i thought. aj specifically lsaid to me individually "bum is next, then probably you" and they both said Bum 99% revealed himself through the Nolder-Gata saga. 

on a different note, i thought i would belynched yesterday morning/afternoon and didnt bother checking in to post

[Gone]

As far as Boozer. First noticeable thing is that he's very low on content. decker had a bit more and he joined the game around day 5 maybe.

His op reads very noobiesque. He later votes spoot as a vig target with no reason given (the other players with votes are Smash(3), Gata(2) and with his vote Spoot(2)). Generally a good look. With that said most votes are on holster(6) with 4 scum members on there so maybe they were fanning out, thinking that the holstering was gonna go through anyhow. Risky gamble, but then all the players voting holster at that time are dead now so we know for a fact that some scum voted elsewhere.

Then he follows with a lot of fluff posts and gifs. Doesn't have a lot of thread presence from what I see. Eventually votes smash with no reason given. And here's the weird part, both he and dicker's previous incarnation drop a vote on smash even though smash got lynched about an hour prior to that and they were already at night phase. Not sure what to make of it. I guess it can be an oversight regardless of alignment, while catching up. But I think scum would have a higher urgency to vote to get cred last minute vs finishing the catch up properly and then casting a vote. 

On day 4 spoot gets lynched and boozer in the list of none voters. Unsure if he was actually around or not during that phase but considering he voted spoot as a vig option I'm guessing he was suss of him but he didn't take part in that lynch for whatever reason.

fluff and more fluff. On day 5 doesn't vote when stark gets lynched. Mostly ravels at how long he lasted in the game and makes some jokes. He sort of nudges drums, jvor, gata and dicker's previous incarnation. Seems like the first time he takes some kind of stance since the game started.  The reasons behind it are vote records. But later he also refers to gata as a town lean so his stances are kinda unclear.

He gets about ready to vote dicker's previous incarnation (for being dead weight), just as dicker subs in. Gives dicker props for some posts he made and muses over the meaning behind the sub. Then later votes beaver without giving a reason (atp beaver has 2 votes and jvor has one - dicker). Not a bad look. Agrees with JC's reads (decker and beaver scum reads). And yet the next phase he hammers bum and doesn't join jc on dicker. ie goes with majority.

When ape grills him a bit he says he was lost the first phases and then got his groove and helped lynch two scum. He leans on gata atp asking her who to go for between dicker and drums. Lands on voting drums, cause according to him drums rushed to suss him the second ape brought his name to the table. After drums flips town he lays the blame on ape. Then opts to go back to his original suspect - dicker. Votes him but there isn't a reason that I could see for it.

 

To sum up, there is content that comes across as noobish confusion and lack of understanding. At the same time pointing out spoot to get vigged and then not participating in his lynch and rushing to cast a vote on smash post his lynch gives me bad feels. Him hammering bum could also very easily be late bussing cause he was done for. His vote on beaver is the only vote in my eyes that gains him some credit. Because it's an early vote and I don't think beaver was necessarily the lynch at that point. I don't like that he stated dicker as his main suspect and then went against it with the direction the thread was taking (ie drums). And when that went south he dumped the blame on ape instead of taking responsibility. This phase I think he's going with dicker because that's the only direction he has to take. But I don't really feel like he believes that dicker is scum.

With all of that said I'm finding it hard to ignore the nooby comments I came across here and there. They feel genuine and it's kinda gnawing at me. I'm usually bad at giving new players the benefit of the doubt. Would love to get insight from ape and gata from my sum up. 

 

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

Thanks for pointing out the day/night phases. Lost.... in the fact I have little desire to read over the 12 pages of posts in the last 24 hours and cut/paste them into a 1/2 page post to make my case. I’m a townie hoping to bring a win for my other town homies. Apart from that I probably won’t be playing this game again. I didn’t want to have JF80 find another replacement for me. Ape came in and blew everything up and has sowed seeds of confusion. I hope he’s able to right the ship, gather his composure and help find the he final scum. 

lol, you keep going to the well on the whole ‘ape confused everything’ line... which is right out of the smashmouth ‘too dumb to defend against ape’ excuse book.

your play now seems to contradict your earlier defense where you claimed to be pounding scum... now I pressure you a bit and it’s “I don’t wanna play anymore”?

confusion is a huge part of the game... so is being wrong... unless you’re scum and know more than the rest of us. you have only been on two trains, both scum... exactly what you do as scum when their lynch is a foregone conclusion.

the issue I’m struggling with right now is deciphering the bad playing of the remaining players from scummy play. A good townie works to give those that suspect them a reason not to vote them, beyond just saying the whole game is ruined now because you voted me.

[Integrity28]

2 hours ago, GATA said:

I’m not

I basically revealed days ago and technically before a couple of flips with a similar character. 
 

I mentioned it to Nolder too how could scum know this they’re not told characters and roles 

False. Scum are often given safe reveals by the mod, depending on game mechanics. Please quote the post you’re talking about.

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, GATA said:

Like maybe go to my post where I pretty much said what I was ... No ? 

Principle = poor play as confirmed town

f that’s what you are

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

Which do you think is more likely?

Not sure.

32 has hit markers for scum, but it could be noob stuff.

Im struggling with Gata and Decker and their along for the ride play. Both guilty of being helpful in terms of bumping posts, etc. neither offering independent thought. Decker is almost inviting lynch. Gata is leaning way heavy on being cleared. 

If you’re scum, I won’t be voting you, posts like the one above are good scum play. Respect. If town helpful too.

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, deckerfan said:

just decide for yourself  theres a ton of stuff out there 

See... she’s looking for who to put her decision on. Yet she ninja hammered the eff ouymtta drums. 

[Integrity28]

2 hours ago, deckerfan said:

after the beavaer lynch, AJ and JVOR made it clear that they wanted me and bum gone in no particular order. i was just speeding up the procecss regardless of what i thought. aj specifically lsaid to me individually "bum is next, then probably you" and they both said Bum 99% revealed himself through the Nolder-Gata saga. 

on a different note, i thought i would belynched yesterday morning/afternoon and didnt bother checking in to post

Scum hunt plz

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, Nynaeve said:

As far as Boozer. First noticeable thing is that he's very low on content. decker had a bit more and he joined the game around day 5 maybe.

His op reads very noobiesque. He later votes spoot as a vig target with no reason given (the other players with votes are Smash(3), Gata(2) and with his vote Spoot(2)). Generally a good look. With that said most votes are on holster(6) with 4 scum members on there so maybe they were fanning out, thinking that the holstering was gonna go through anyhow. Risky gamble, but then all the players voting holster at that time are dead now so we know for a fact that some scum voted elsewhere.

Then he follows with a lot of fluff posts and gifs. Doesn't have a lot of thread presence from what I see. Eventually votes smash with no reason given. And here's the weird part, both he and dicker's previous incarnation drop a vote on smash even though smash got lynched about an hour prior to that and they were already at night phase. Not sure what to make of it. I guess it can be an oversight regardless of alignment, while catching up. But I think scum would have a higher urgency to vote to get cred last minute vs finishing the catch up properly and then casting a vote. 

On day 4 spoot gets lynched and boozer in the list of none voters. Unsure if he was actually around or not during that phase but considering he voted spoot as a vig option I'm guessing he was suss of him but he didn't take part in that lynch for whatever reason.

fluff and more fluff. On day 5 doesn't vote when stark gets lynched. Mostly ravels at how long he lasted in the game and makes some jokes. He sort of nudges drums, jvor, gata and dicker's previous incarnation. Seems like the first time he takes some kind of stance since the game started.  The reasons behind it are vote records. But later he also refers to gata as a town lean so his stances are kinda unclear.

He gets about ready to vote dicker's previous incarnation (for being dead weight), just as dicker subs in. Gives dicker props for some posts he made and muses over the meaning behind the sub. Then later votes beaver without giving a reason (atp beaver has 2 votes and jvor has one - dicker). Not a bad look. Agrees with JC's reads (decker and beaver scum reads). And yet the next phase he hammers bum and doesn't join jc on dicker. ie goes with majority.

When ape grills him a bit he says he was lost the first phases and then got his groove and helped lynch two scum. He leans on gata atp asking her who to go for between dicker and drums. Lands on voting drums, cause according to him drums rushed to suss him the second ape brought his name to the table. After drums flips town he lays the blame on ape. Then opts to go back to his original suspect - dicker. Votes him but there isn't a reason that I could see for it.

 

To sum up, there is content that comes across as noobish confusion and lack of understanding. At the same time pointing out spoot to get vigged and then not participating in his lynch and rushing to cast a vote on smash post his lynch gives me bad feels. Him hammering bum could also very easily be late bussing cause he was done for. His vote on beaver is the only vote in my eyes that gains him some credit. Because it's an early vote and I don't think beaver was necessarily the lynch at that point. I don't like that he stated dicker as his main suspect and then went against it with the direction the thread was taking (ie drums). And when that went south he dumped the blame on ape instead of taking responsibility. This phase I think he's going with dicker because that's the only direction he has to take. But I don't really feel like he believes that dicker is scum.

With all of that said I'm finding it hard to ignore the nooby comments I came across here and there. They feel genuine and it's kinda gnawing at me. I'm usually bad at giving new players the benefit of the doubt. Would love to get insight from ape and gata from my sum up. 

 

Boozer has voted to kill spoot, smash, beaver and bum at different points of the game? I barely saw any other votes from him... almost a perfect record, and then he’s blaming me for the one high visibility wrong vote he cast: drums.

Not following, but hitting on all scum?

He’s played the cleanest looking game. You’ve heard this theory from me before.

[Gone]

24 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Boozer has voted to kill spoot, smash, beaver and bum at different points of the game? I barely saw any other votes from him... almost a perfect record, and then he’s blaming me for the one high visibility wrong vote he cast: drums.

Not following, but hitting on all scum?

He’s played the cleanest looking game. You’ve heard this theory from me before.

no no. he voted to vig spoot. Once verb was outed they made a poll and people voted if verb should holster or who should he target. He wasn't around for spoot's lynch. smash he voted but well after the deadline passed. Beaver he voted for 2nd and bum he hammered.

I see what you mean, though. It seems too perfect, especially for a noob.

[32EBoozer]

34 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Boozer has voted to kill spoot, smash, beaver and bum at different points of the game? I barely saw any other votes from him... almost a perfect record, and then he’s blaming me for the one high visibility wrong vote he cast: drums.

Not following, but hitting on all scum?

He’s played the cleanest looking game. You’ve heard this theory from me before.

Sooooooo does that mean I’m one of the cool kids or the one about to be brought out to the wood shed for a whoopin?

 

Even a blind squirrel finds a ? nut now and again. 

Edited February 22, 2020 by 32EBoozer
Wanted to jazz it up a bit

[Integrity28]

8 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

no no. he voted to vig spoot. Once verb was outed they made a poll and people voted if verb should holster or who should he target. He wasn't around for spoot's lynch. smash he voted but well after the deadline passed. Beaver he voted for 2nd and bum he hammered.

I see what you mean, though. It seems too perfect, especially for a noob.

Voting to vig spoot is a vote to kill scum.

[Integrity28]

9 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Sooooooo does that mean I’m one of the cool kids or the one about to be brought out to the wood shed for a whoopin?

 

Even a blind squirrel finds a ? nut now and again. 

I think you’re scum, and a great addition to mafia. 

[Gone]

I'll mull it over a bit more and then prolly vote. Gotta go to sleep soon and got work tomorrow so unsure when I'll be able to check in.

[32EBoozer]

22 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I think you’re scum, and a great addition to mafia. 

My kids say the same thing behind my back but I hold my will over their heads and that keeps the hugs coming.

My unorthodox play should not be my downfall. If I may quote you....

said:

Boozer has voted to kill spoot, smash, beaver and bum at different points of the game? I barely saw any other votes from him... almost a perfect record

Bum was my only screw up. 

[Integrity28]

59 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

My kids say the same thing behind my back but I hold my will over their heads and that keeps the hugs coming.

My unorthodox play should not be my downfall. If I may quote you....

said:

Boozer has voted to kill spoot, smash, beaver and bum at different points of the game? I barely saw any other votes from him... almost a perfect record

Bum was my only screw up. 

So, the argument you’re making is that your nearly perfect record of finding scum is why you can’t be anything other than town?

I mean, I can explain this to you after we lynch you and win. If you want.