A.J. Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 In order for GATA/JVOR to be Mafia, it would mean they both railroaded two PRs on their team - which should be about half the members - in a 21 person game. Does that sound like a winning strategy for scum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, A.J. said: This keeps coming up a lot this game. What you’re talking about does happen in games, I won’t say it’s rare or anything. It’s more player dependent in my experience and there are some situations where throwing a teammate under the bus is the best play. All that said, scum can only win if they have equal or greater numbers to Town. Actively campaigning to kill your teammates goes directly against that win condition. I think you are probably right, but at the same time I think it could help the final two survive 'till the end if it worked correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, A.J. said: In order for GATA/JVOR to be Mafia, it would mean they both railroaded two PRs on their team - which should be about half the members - in a 21 person game. Does that sound like a winning strategy for scum? True but I'm not ready to forget about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, A.J. said: In order for GATA/JVOR to be Mafia, it would mean they both railroaded two PRs on their team - which should be about half the members - in a 21 person game. Does that sound like a winning strategy for scum? And it seems like basically everyone voted for Spoot and Smash so it is hard to say this definitely means they aren't scum. Some didn't vote on day four, like myself, because I thought I had some time to get back on here and read before it happened. Beaver voted Holster and consistently voted PDXGreen so he is someone that would go with what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Day 4 Vote Count Spoot (6) - JVOR, jvill 51, GATA, Nolder, JustEndTheSuffering, pdxgreen pdxgreen (3) - A.J., JC, Beaver JC (1) - Spoot Not Voting (5) - 32EBoozer, Stark, Drums, BUM-KNEE, ID. With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Spoot goes the way of the Joe Biden campaign!!! Dead and buried! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, A.J. said: In order for GATA/JVOR to be Mafia, it would mean they both railroaded two PRs on their team - which should be about half the members - in a 21 person game. Does that sound like a winning strategy for scum? Normally I would say no. In a game this size? Maybe. I would suspect it from JVOR before Gata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Drums said: And it seems like basically everyone voted for Spoot and Smash so it is hard to say this definitely means they aren't scum. Some didn't vote on day four, like myself, because I thought I had some time to get back on here and read before it happened. Beaver voted Holster and consistently voted PDXGreen so he is someone that would go with what you are saying. That’s where nuance comes into play. There is a difference in just voting a player and pushing a player. Votes in a vacuum aren’t as telling without context. The important information in games is learned when someone dies and you find out who they were because you can go back and see how other players interacted with the dead person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Jetsfan80 Sorry I missed the cutoff. This game goesfreaking quick. Y’all doing one kill a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nolder said: Normally I would say no. In a game this size? Maybe. I would suspect it from JVOR before Gata. That would make for one hell of an uphill battle. JVOR definitely has chops and I believe he’s probably very good as scum but Occam’s Razor at this point if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Drums said: I think you are probably right, but at the same time I think it could help the final two survive 'till the end if it worked correctly. So you are pushing a two vet buss situation even tho CTM actively mentioned how that’s not Smash’s play style and he’s dead . K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Drums said: I am still leaning towards 1-2 vets and maybe one newbie for scum. Suspected vets: GATA and JVOR. JVOR pinged early because of how fast he jumped in. GATA pushed so hard for a shot and the way she's been questioning and then not even responding makes me feel it is fake--just for show. They are oddly on the same page in almost every vote as well which I find a little weird. Not sure how of the new players yet. just like say who’s in your scum team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I voted to shoot smash and voted nothing but smash and spoot since then. They were scum. Why would that be a bad thing? Shhhh let the baby scum push false narrative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Knowing smash he probably instructed his folks to come in and sway the shoot vote hence spoots gross holster vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted February 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: Spoot goes the way of the Joe Biden campaign!!! Dead and buried! Don't make me give you an uncomfortable shoulder rub. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, GATA said: just like say who’s in your scum team If I know I am not scum, does this response make you scum? I really wish I was something good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, GATA said: Shhhh let the baby scum push false narrative Stark dies before anyone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, A.J. said: That would make for one hell of an uphill battle. JVOR definitely has chops and I believe he’s probably very good as scum but Occam’s Razor at this point if you ask me I agree with you I'm just providing my insight fwiw. And I wouldn't count Gata out if she is scum but that hard bussing isn't really her style and I'd be surprised if she mixed it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 16 hours ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I think of the newbies bumknee and drums are more likely, but i don’t feel like i have a ton to go by unfortunately. id and boozer i just have null/neutral reads still. Need to see more imo. beaver feels like a wildcard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 80 mentioned that scum is usually 25% of players. So guess is 5 scum. 2vets down. My guess would be one more vet and two noobs. I’m still on the pdxgreen train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 9 hours ago, GATA said: So you are pushing a two vet buss situation even tho CTM actively mentioned how that’s not Smash’s play style and he’s dead . K I'm not really pushing anything but you seem to be pushing me, which will be interesting if I ever get lynched. Won't make you look good, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Drums said: I'm not really pushing anything but you seem to be pushing me, which will be interesting if I ever get lynched. Won't make you look good, that's for sure. Fear mongering isn’t a good way to push me out of looking at you as a suspect. you want to be protown; direct town on who to look at with clues like voting patterns, hiding, etc but if I believe you’re pushing a false case I will call you out on it because chances are you’re being directed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, GATA said: Fear mongering isn’t a good way to push me out of looking at you as a suspect. you want to be protown; direct town on who to look at with clues like voting patterns, hiding, etc but if I believe you’re pushing a false case I will call you out on it because chances are you’re being directed You're probably right, however this is my first time playing and I have no idea what I am doing. No one is obvious at this point to me so I have to start going off of the little I have. Lynch me and you'll see but it'll be a mistake. However you seem to say a lot without saying anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Drums said: You're probably right, however this is my first time playing and I have no idea what I am doing. No one is obvious at this point to me so I have to start going off of the little I have. Lynch me and you'll see but it'll be a mistake. However you seem to say a lot without saying anything. Ok like what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 3:00 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Time's up! Day 1 FINAL Vote Count CTM (8)- JustEndTheSuffering, Drums, GATA, pdxgreen, Beaver, Spoot, Crusher, kdels62 Crusher (4) - Stark, Brick (AJ), JVOR, CTM Verbal (4) - ID., BUM-KNEE, JC, jvill 51 Smash (2) - JiF, Verbal JustEndTheSuffering (1) - Ape JiF (1) - Smash Not Voting (1) - 32EBoozer With 21 players alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch. First Lynch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 10:48 AM, Smashmouth said: Verbals Shot: Verbal (1) Brickhouse Spoot (2) GATA, Boozer GATA (2) kdels62, ID Smash (3) JOVR, jvill51, Just End Me Holster (7) Smash,Drums, Beaver, Spoot, Crusher, BUM-KNEE, Stark Not Participating (1) Ape Majority gets Shot. I guess we should bold our votes just like a real vote. The Moderator does not approve this message. **** Him J.E.T.S looks good, Jvill & Boozer good looks here. Final HOLSTER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 8:51 AM, Jetsfan80 said: *** FINAL Day 2 Vote Count *** Smash (10)- JVOR, JustEndTheSuffering, CTM, Nolder(APE), Drums, jvill 51, Spoot, GATA, Smash, BUM-KNEE CTM (2) - JC, Stark JC (2) - Beaver, pdxgreen Spoot (1) - Verbal Not Voting (3) - Brick, 32EBoozer, ID. With 18 players remaining, it takes 10 votes to lynch Final Lynch D2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 9:48 PM, Jetsfan80 said: *** FINAL Day 3 Vote Count *** Smash (9) - AJ, CTM, JVOR, GATA, Spoot, Drums, JC, BUM-KNEE, JustEndTheSuffering pdxgreen (1) - Beaver Not Voting (7) With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Missing votes @Stark , @pdxgreen, @ID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: ** FINAL Day 4 Vote Count ** Spoot (8) - JVOR, jvill 51, GATA, Nolder, JustEndTheSuffering, pdxgreen, JC, AJ pdxgreen (1) - Beaver JC (1) - Spoot Not Voting (5) - 32EBoozer, Stark, Drums, BUM-KNEE, ID. With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Final Lynch D4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 So we're not voting yet right? Lost track of days... Edit - Never mind, read back and found out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, GATA said: Missing votes @Stark , @pdxgreen, @ID. that was the smash speed Lynch.. IIRC day ended either right around when I left the office or after. the next time I looked at game it was already done. going back now was gone all weekend as you all have clearly pointed out. what happened to weekends were kind "low activity" almost time out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 5:08 PM, Jetsfan80 said: After the failed lynching of Smash, chaos reigned. Fingers were pointed. Lives were threatened. And more would continue the next day. But first, the Turtles had to go to sleep. They awoke the next day to find a dead body. A bloodied, broken hockey stick lay next to him. Verbal, aka Casey Jones (1x Vig), has been killed. 4 minutes ago, Stark said: that was the smash speed Lynch.. IIRC day ended either right around when I left the office or after. the next time I looked at game it was already done. going back now was gone all weekend as you all have clearly pointed out. what happened to weekends were kind "low activity" almost time out yes night ended after I left the office and was away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 It was a rough night for the Turtles. One of their strongest allies, and their collective crush, lay dead in a heap on the floor. "Noooooo dude we're losing people left and right!! This is awful bro!!" jvill 51, aka April O’Neil (Town Cop) is dead. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 hours ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I ignored responding to him but i think this was him fishing for info on what role i may possibly have since i’ve been dead on about smash and spoot this game. yes you did ignore. I wasn't fishing was a general question. fear of NK when you have been playing a lower key game is weird. Doesn't make you scum but a weird thing to say. and that was before Spoots death and reveal so at that point you were one of the many that had said smash was scum 20 hours ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I think his opinion on Stark is also a dead giveaway. “Eh probably town?” Seems weird to include in a list. we also know how suspicious spoot was all game. Reread stark and find any opinion he’s had that was even slightly suspicious of spoot, or smash even. The new people there’s slack to be given, but stark supposedly is experienced and a strong Town player. rereading both players there is oddly very light interaction between them as well. Yes this is a weird read on me from spoot. My guess is that he could see that his and my name were the top Lynch candidates, as I still am (quotes below) he probably made that remark to do exactly this and put FOS on me even more. Can't lie the most I moved on spoot in any of my posted reads went from probably town to neutral. I don't know if anyone used the "strong town player" to describe me. I have played, I like to play, sometimes I am good and sometimes I am not. its Teh Mafia. 20 hours ago, GATA said: ^^^ @Drums @Beaver @Stark @BUM-KNEEcan we get some feedback on why you guys wanted to holster again 20 hours ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: Another reason why stark is On night one he votes no holster at a pivotal Moment where it was 8 vs 6 to shoot someone saying he felt the whole exercise was pointless. and boy was I right... Verbal, as I suspected, wasn't going to go by the poll, hence pointless. 20 hours ago, A.J. said: Stark -> pdxgreen -> gg? There should really only be 2-3 left max. 20 hours ago, A.J. said: They can’t kill you, me & Jvill all at once. Stark will swing next. 11 hours ago, A.J. said: Stark dies before anyone else I'm town. sh*tty town, but town. I can understand the wanting to lynch me from some here. ------- now that I have addressed the weekend posts I will be going back through today (real life day) and looking back on the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Updated player list: 1. CTM: Charles Pennington (Vanilla Town) Lynched D1 2. Crusher --> Replaced by CTM: Slice of Pizza (Vanilla Town) killed N3 3. Brick --> Replaced by @A.J. 4. @Stark 5. @GATA 6. Spoot, aka Tatsu, Scum 1x Role-Blocker, lynched D4 7. SR24 --> Replaced by @Jets Voice of Reason 8. @Drums 9. @JustEndTheSuffering 10. Verbal: Casey Jones (1x Vig) Killed N2 11. @BUM-KNEE 12. jvill 51: April O'Neil (Town Cop) Killed N4 13. @pdxgreen 14. kdels62: Leonardo (Vanilla Town) Killed N1 15. JiF: Raphael (Vanilla Town) Killed N1 16. @32EBoozer 17. @Beaver 18. Smashmouth: Shredder (Scum 1x Unlynchable) Lynched D3 19. @Jetscode1 20. @ID. 21. Ape --> Replaced by @Nolder: Mod-confirmed Vanilla Town (Hamato Yoshi, Splinter's trainer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Day 5 has begun. With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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