Gil Brandt's 12 most "clutch" NFL players right now: Adams # 12

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

An NFL team played a quarter of their season with their #3 QB. 

Legends such as:

Kyle Allen

Gardiner Minshew

Duck Hodges

Drew Blough

Jeff Driskell

Brandon Allen

Ryan Finley

All had a good bit of playing time this year.  Luke Falk was the only Qb in the league that personally destroyed his team.

Also, why was Luke Falk on this team in the first place?

Played under Gase in Miami.

Brought here by Gase.

Luke Falk destroyer of worlds!

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

False.

Wayne Hunter, OT 

The whole universe did not say that the OC was brilliant and only saddled with Hunter and that is why they were the last in the league ranked offense ....just because of hunter.

Hunter and Falk were both dreadful.

Falk is the reason according to many why the Jets were 1-7 and why poor Adam Gase could not be expected to be anything better than 32nd ranked on offense.

[T0mShane]

9 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Legends such as:

Kyle Allen

Gardiner Minshew

Duck Hodges

Drew Blough

Jeff Driskell

Brandon Allen

Ryan Finley

All had a good bit of playing time this year.  Luke Falk was the only Qb in the league that personally destroyed his team.

Also, why was Luke Falk on this team in the first place?

Played under Gase in Miami.

Brought here by Gase.

Luke Falk destroyer of worlds!

All of those guys got benched and their teams are picking higher than us in the draft. 

[BROOKLYN JET]

He would be #1, but GASE!

[Embrace the Suck]

3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

#2 Boy have I seen a lot of this in my time, if you have to constantly proclaim you are a leader you are no leader.

Like weekly staff meetings where people have to proclaim every tiny little thing they do as they wax up their cross prior to jumping on it.

[joewilly12]

46 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Tough to see the pro-Adams crowd take participation trophies such as Gil Brandt top 12 clutch lists. Will you all hang banners as well?

In your own mind. 

Jamal Adams NY Jets All-Pro only NY JETS player on the roster, only player to receive any types of awards from the 2019 season. 

FACTS 

 

[Larz]

3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Well without him we'd have #1 or #2 on this list, so it depends on your point of view. We'd also have a 2018 #1 pick and three more 2nd rounders as well. Just saying.

Factually incorrect 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

In your own mind. 

Jamal Adams NY Jets All-Pro only NY JETS player on the roster, only player to receive any types of awards from the 2019 season. 

FACTS 

 

It’s almost like you’re saying the Jets are talent poor!

[joewilly12]

15 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

It’s almost like you’re saying the Jets are talent poor!

No i'm saying Jamal Adams is the best player on the team. 

[CTM]

It's really shouldn't be a surprise that an unapologetic self promotional jackass who gave himself the moniker "the prez" shows up on these types of media lists and gets voted to pro bowls.

Self promotion works, particularly in the social media age.

Still not worth 17M

[joewilly12]

7 minutes ago, CTM said:

It's really shouldn't be a surprise that an unapologetic self promotional jackass who gave himself the moniker "the prez" shows up on these types of media lists and gets voted to pro bowls.

Self promotion works, particularly in the social media age.

Still not worth 17M

Talk the talk, walk the walk and he does. 

Best player on the NY Jets. 

[CTM]

Just now, joewilly12 said:

Talk the talk, walk the walk and he does. 

Best player on the NY Jets. 

Debatable and not saying much anyway.

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, CTM said:

Debatable and not saying much anyway.

No debate, are you saying the NY Jets are talent poor. 

[FidelioJet]

Jamal Adams is a very good player, no doubt. - and valuable to the team.

But...a 1st round pick, 2nd round pick and $20mm a year is simply more valuable to this team right now.



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[joewilly12]

3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Jamal Adams is a very good player, no doubt. - and valuable to the team.

But...a 1st round pick, 2nd round pick and $20mm a year is simply more valuable to this team right now.



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24:25:31

We already have a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick and $20 million or more in cap space. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Legends such as:

Kyle Allen

Gardiner Minshew

Duck Hodges

Drew Blough

Jeff Driskell

Brandon Allen

Ryan Finley

All had a good bit of playing time this year.  Luke Falk was the only Qb in the league that personally destroyed his team.

Also, why was Luke Falk on this team in the first place?

Played under Gase in Miami.

Brought here by Gase.

Luke Falk destroyer of worlds!

Why the hell are you listing Detroit and Bengals QBs??

[redlichtie]

4 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

You just said one's greatest ability is availability, and left it at that  

It had context in that it was in response to another point by another poster that referenced the relevance of availability related to performance 

[redlichtie]

4 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

Cool stuff, that still doesn’t make Jamal Adams better. Sorry.

Whatever makes you feel right all along about something is all that matters I guess 

[Dcat]

5 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Legends such as:

Kyle Allen

Gardiner Minshew

Duck Hodges

Drew Blough

Jeff Driskell

Brandon Allen

Ryan Finley

All had a good bit of playing time this year.  Luke Falk was the only Qb in the league that personally destroyed his team.

Also, why was Luke Falk on this team in the first place?

Played under Gase in Miami.

Brought here by Gase.

Luke Falk destroyer of worlds!

Falk was the #3 not #2.  You got a boatload of #2's on that list.  How is anyone supposed toknow that Trevor Simeon is going to land on IR?  You can blame Gase for a lot of things, but I'm not about to blame him because the 3rd string QB had to start.

[Beerfish]

10 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Falk was the #3 not #2.  You got a boatload of #2's on that list.  How is anyone supposed toknow that Trevor Simeon is going to land on IR?  You can blame Gase for a lot of things, but I'm not about to blame him because the 3rd string QB had to start.

#1  Adam Gase CHOSE him to be on the team.  "The worst QB ever to suit up for the Jets" was hand picked by Gase to be on the team.  If he can't play at all then that is on Gase.

#2 The last start Darnold missed?  He got all the #1 reps all that week.  Then Falk had to start.  Once again that is on Gase.

Once again, the DC had to put up with injuries and players underachieving and he cobbled together a reasonable defense.  Gase, and offensive genius, faced some similar issues and had the worst offense in the league.

[Dcat]

7 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Jamal Adams doesn't play offense. 

and therein lies the problem.  we have next to zilch talent on offense.  

Extend him now or trade him now.  Not waiting around 2 years just to see him bolt after year 5 with the jets getting nothing more than a 50-50 shot at a comp pick or be stuck in a franchise tag situation.  So AFAIC Jamal either commits long term now or Douglas should try to build the offense with the picks he gets for him.

[joewilly12]

Just now, Dcat said:

and therein lies the problem.  we have next to zilch talent on offense.  

Extend him now or trade him now.  Not waiting around 2 years just to see him bolt after year 5 with the jets getting nothing more than a 50-50 shot at a comp pick or be stuck in a franchise tag situation.  So AFAIC Jamal either commits long term now or Douglas should try to build the offense with the picks he gets for him.

Thats Jamal Adams fault????????? 

[Dcat]

6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Thats Jamal Adams fault????????? 

It's not a matter of "fault".  It's what Joe Douglas should do regarding Adams because of the situation.  Blame has nothing to do with it. 

[Dcat]

9 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

#1  Adam Gase CHOSE him to be on the team.  "The worst QB ever to suit up for the Jets" was hand picked by Gase to be on the team.  If he can't play at all then that is on Gase.

#2 The last start Darnold missed?  He got all the #1 reps all that week.  Then Falk had to start.  Once again that is on Gase.

Once again, the DC had to put up with injuries and players underachieving and he cobbled together a reasonable defense.  Gase, and offensive genius, faced some similar issues and had the worst offense in the league.

this is ridiculous.  You're making a big deal over a 3rd stringer forced to play.  Wasn't he on the giants the year before?  There are better battles to be fought than this.  This is just piling on.  No... I don't blame Gase that Falk sucked. I have a boatload of better things to blame Gase for.

[Sperm Edwards]

8 hours ago, redlichtie said:

It had context in that it was in response to another point by another poster that referenced the relevance of availability related to performance 

Before I reread this a third time, it’s clear I was making a joke since a nice dump one morning - and frankly even a not so satisfying one - has more value than 32 games of Hackenberg’s availability.

[Fantasy Island]

@#$% Adams, bad pick for what we still need.  

[Gastineau Lives]

Jamal Adams' worth has literally nothing to do with who was drafted instead.

This "what if" perfume you guys spray on the argument is goofy.

[Anthony Jet]

Sucks that two of the Qbs that were available when we needed a qb are Doing so well then it sucks even more that the guard we probably would’ve picked the following year to protect that qb is there also 

[T0mShane]

33 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Jamal Adams' worth has literally nothing to do with who was drafted instead.

This "what if" perfume you guys spray on the argument is goofy.

Yes, but it’s a nice side dish to the wonderful banquet of Jets fan misery. The best player they’ve drafted since Revis is actually a trash raccoon who’s allergic to the football and was drafted in front of the GOAT QB.

[dbatesman]

17 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Yes, but it’s a nice side dish to the wonderful banquet of Jets fan misery. The best player they’ve drafted since Revis is actually a trash raccoon who’s allergic to the football and was drafted in front of the GOAT QB.

*GOATFTCBHWHBBH (Greatest Of All Time For The Chiefs, But He Would Have Been Bad Here) QB

[CTM]

33 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

*GOATFTCBHWHBBH (Greatest Of All Time For The Chiefs, But He Would Have Been Bad Here) QB

Saw blatesman was last post, clicked thread hoping for good snark.. was not disappointed 

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, CTM said:

Saw blatesman was last post, clicked thread hoping for good snark.. was not disappointed 

[SR24]

Raise that trade value babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Sperm Edwards]

17 hours ago, Larz said:

Factually incorrect 

Lol sure it is. You go, girl!

[jetstream23]

17 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The whole universe did not say that the OC was brilliant and only saddled with Hunter and that is why they were the last in the league ranked offense ....just because of hunter.

Hunter and Falk were both dreadful.

Falk is the reason according to many why the Jets were 1-7 and why poor Adam Gase could not be expected to be anything better than 32nd ranked on offense.

Other than the Center, the QB is the player who touches the ball most often on offense.  Wayne Hunter was disproportionately responsible for the failings of a Jets offense in 2012 that had been pretty good (AFC Championship worthy) the previous seasons.  For a guy who never touches the football Hunter was a significant negative impact on both the run and pass game that year.  I'm going off memory but he stands out a single name that got significantly maligned as a reason for the offense failing.