Lith Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 1:20 AM, T0mShane said: It feels like you can get reasonably promising WRs in round three and four, but you can’t find even a good OT after the first round. That said, you’d need to take Wills at 11. I get your point, but waiting until round 3 or especially round 4 to pick WR is waiting too long. Based on the construction of the roster today, pre-FA, I would much prefer to go OL at 11. But if we do, we have to go WR in round 2. Waiting until round 3 or 4 is how you come away with Ardarius Stewart, Chad Hansen, Jalen Saunders and Shaq Evans. Douglas may be able to find talented WRs in R3 or R4 (unlike his predecessors) but those guys usually need a year or two to develop. Assuming the reports that we are not likely to bring back Anderson are correct, we need a WR from the draft who can contribute immediately. That means round 1 or round 2. By the end of day 2, I would like to see JD add 2 OLs and 2 WRs. Day 3 is the time to address defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Jeudy is going to be really good Wills is a Guard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I took Jeudy (but prefer Lamb) for this reason. The top OT's are going to be gone. It's my opinion there is a significant drop off in talent after the top 2 (Thomas, Wirf, and Willis or Bechton at 3) i think 3 will be gone before we select and I don't want to take the leftover guy when I can have the stud at WR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Where is Ruggs expected to go? Chatter starting that Henry might run a sub 4.25 40.... at 6' 190. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Lith said: I get your point, but waiting until round 3 or especially round 4 to pick WR is waiting too long. Based on the construction of the roster today, pre-FA, I would much prefer to go OL at 11. But if we do, we have to go WR in round 2. Waiting until round 3 or 4 is how you come away with Ardarius Stewart, Chad Hansen, Jalen Saunders and Shaq Evans. Douglas may be able to find talented WRs in R3 or R4 (unlike his predecessors) but those guys usually need a year or two to develop. Assuming the reports that we are not likely to bring back Anderson are correct, we need a WR from the draft who can contribute immediately. That means round 1 or round 2. By the end of day 2, I would like to see JD add 2 OLs and 2 WRs. Day 3 is the time to address defense. I’d be afraid to draft any of these receivers with the idea that they’re going to be the feature guy in my passing attack right away, to be honest. It’s possible that Jeudy, Lamb, or Higgins are phenoms, but if I’ve decided that Darnold needs that #1 target monster, I’d probably let Anderson walk and give Amari Cooper his $19 mil. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d be afraid to draft any of these receivers with the idea that they’re going to be the feature guy in my passing attack right away, to be honest. It’s possible that Jeudy, Lamb, or Higgins are phenoms, but if I’ve decided that Darnold needs that #1 target monster, I’d probably let Anderson walk and give Amari Cooper his $19 mil. Amari Cooper is who I wanted and thought there was a reasonable chance we'd nab in 15, until Oakland inexplicably decided to pass on the best player in the draft leaving him all to Mac. He should be a top target this offseason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d be afraid to draft any of these receivers with the idea that they’re going to be the feature guy in my passing attack right away, to be honest. It’s possible that Jeudy, Lamb, or Higgins are phenoms, but if I’ve decided that Darnold needs that #1 target monster, I’d probably let Anderson walk and give Amari Cooper his $19 mil. 1 minute ago, CTM said: Amari Cooper is who I wanted and thought there was a reasonable chance we'd nab in 15, until Oakland inexplicably decided to pass on the best player in the draft leaving him all to Mac. He should be a top target this offseason Amari Cooper $19 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, joewilly12 said: Amari Cooper $19 million? And presmals jersey # 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d be afraid to draft any of these receivers with the idea that they’re going to be the feature guy in my passing attack right away, to be honest. It’s possible that Jeudy, Lamb, or Higgins are phenoms, but if I’ve decided that Darnold needs that #1 target monster, I’d probably let Anderson walk and give Amari Cooper his $19 mil. I'd be afraid to draft any Saban guy at this point. Jets have bombed spectacularly on every single one them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, CTM said: And presmals jersey # Jamal Adams wears #33 Amari Cooper #19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: I'd be afraid to draft any Saban guy at this point. Jets have bombed spectacularly on every single one them. Sheesh thats some bad thought......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, CTM said: And presmals jersey # I know I’m being a goofball with the Adams slander, but if Adams quit the team tomorrow, you wouldn’t list “strong safety” as one of the Jets top ten needs. The OL is barren, as are WR, CB, Edge, RB, etc. You can do a lot toward cleaning up those holes with an extra 1, 3, and the money you’d otherwise have to devote to Adams. From a PR perspective, Douglas could make the point that he effectively traded Adams for Cooper and nobody would say sh*t about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I'd be afraid to draft any Saban guy at this point. Jets have bombed spectacularly on every single one them. They’re all playing bone on bone in that program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Jamal Adams wears #33 Amari Cooper #19 You could give #33 to Travis Etienne next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I know I’m being a goofball with the Adams slander, but if Adams quit the team tomorrow, you wouldn’t list “strong safety” as one of the Jets top ten needs. The OL is barren, as are WR, CB, Edge, RB, etc. You can do a lot toward cleaning up those holes with an extra 1, 3, and the money you’d otherwise have to devote to Adams. From a PR perspective, Douglas could make the point that he effectively traded Adams for Cooper and nobody would say sh*t about it. Addition by subtraction @T0mShane How good is the D with Jamal Adams and how good will they be without him. Like him or hate him the kid can play the damn game. Success is measured on so many different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I know I’m being a goofball with the Adams slander, but if Adams quit the team tomorrow, you wouldn’t list “strong safety” as one of the Jets top ten needs. The OL is barren, as are WR, CB, Edge, RB, etc. You can do a lot toward cleaning up those holes with an extra 1, 3, and the money you’d otherwise have to devote to Adams. From a PR perspective, Douglas could make the point that he effectively traded Adams for Cooper and nobody would say sh*t about it. 100%, the trolling is just for fun. Hes a good player but the things hes good at arent that important, particularly on a talent poor team with a shaky young QB. The Jets would be better off moving him now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: You could give #33 to Travis Etienne next year Not declaring for the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, CTM said: 100%, the trolling is just for fun. Hes a good player but the things hes good at arent that important, the Jets would be better off moving him now No proof whatsoever this is remotely true or factual. You hate Jamal Adams that is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, joewilly12 said: Not declaring for the draft. Next year is 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, joewilly12 said: You hate Jamal Adams this is truth. Can you prove this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Can you prove this Archives, like when remember when you were part-owner of this place. Pump the brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: No proof whatsoever this is remotely true or factual. You hate Jamal Adams that is the truth. You sound like an idiot, grown ups are talking here. Why dont you join the other tweenage girls over at Tiger Beat forums. Your collection of topless male athlete photos will get better play there https://tigerbeat.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Addition by subtraction @T0mShane How good is the D with Jamal Adams and how good will they be without him. Like him or hate him the kid can play the damn game. Success is measured on so many different ways. This is gobbledygook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Sheesh thats some bad thought......... Hey it's stupid reasoning but it's also the truth. To hit on a guy in the draft you need good analytics and massive amounts of luck. The Jets mind trends in neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, CTM said: You sound like an idiot, grown ups are talking here. Why dont you join the other tweenage girls over at Tiger Beat forums. Your collection of topless male athlete photos will get better play there https://tigerbeat.com I may sound like one but you are one. Same old trolling sh*t, every thread turns into a Jamal Adams hate thread with you. Learn a thing or two about football. You are an obvious expert on teen girls magazines or forums. Scary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is gobbledygook No thats fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Where is Ruggs expected to go? Chatter starting that Henry might run a sub 4.25 40.... at 6' 190. I wouldn't have a problem taking Ruggs either. He's like a faster version of Tyreke Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I know I’m being a goofball with the Adams slander, but if Adams quit the team tomorrow, you wouldn’t list “strong safety” as one of the Jets top ten needs. The OL is barren, as are WR, CB, Edge, RB, etc. You can do a lot toward cleaning up those holes with an extra 1, 3, and the money you’d otherwise have to devote to Adams. From a PR perspective, Douglas could make the point that he effectively traded Adams for Cooper and nobody would say sh*t about it. If you got rid of Adams with the current roster, the seconday is also a barren wasteland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 of note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d be afraid to draft any of these receivers with the idea that they’re going to be the feature guy in my passing attack right away, to be honest. It’s possible that Jeudy, Lamb, or Higgins are phenoms, but if I’ve decided that Darnold needs that #1 target monster, I’d probably let Anderson walk and give Amari Cooper his $19 mil. ABSOLUTELY! And if JD thinks the 4th guy left for us at 11 isn't good enough for that pick, take Jeudy at 11 & we'll finally have the right Bama boys so Sam can light it up! F it just resign Beachum, sign Coop & Thuney or Glasgow, Conklin & call it a day. You'd still have a high 2, your 2 threes & a high 4 to go to work with. Thats 4 picks to find 1 more stud RB & still leaves 3 picks for best Center?, CB or Edge available. Sam Darnold would be lining up with Amari Cooper, Jameson Crowder, Jerry Jeudy, Chris Herndon & Le'veon Bell in the backfield. NOW THATS AN OFFENSIVE LINEUP to jell with over 16 games. Plus a young stud RB like JK Dobbins or Jonathon Taylor if one of them falls to out #2 spot. With a bunch of weapons EVERYWHERE it makes it much harder to put 8/9 guys on the LOS. Plus I want to surround Sam with young exciting offensive skill players because I don't see Bell here in 2021 & his salary can be used to solidify whatever the most important pc is we're missing in 2021 in free agency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d be afraid to draft any of these receivers with the idea that they’re going to be the feature guy in my passing attack right away, to be honest. It’s possible that Jeudy, Lamb, or Higgins are phenoms, but if I’ve decided that Darnold needs that #1 target monster, I’d probably let Anderson walk and give Amari Cooper his $19 mil. I am not suggesting that a 2nd round WR needs to come in and be a #1 in his rookie year. But I do think we need a guy out of the draft that can at least give us some solid production as a rookie. Had about a half dozen guys in last year's draft with 45+ receptions, 500+ yards in their rookie year. Thats what we need out of a rookie. A guy who can be part of a stable of #2/#3 type receivers. Crowder, a vet FA, rookie #1, and then some contribution out of Smith, Berrios, Enunwa, rookie #2. I would rather have 4 or 5 solid guys who can contribute than spend the $$ needed for a guy like Cooper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 2:01 AM, Dcat said: I knew this was coming. But so soon? Still... WR over OT. WR over THAT tackle. Wills isn't the best tackle in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, sirlancemehlot said: WR over THAT tackle. Wills isn't the best tackle in the draft. Not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Henry Ruggs. He's Tyreek Hill II. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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