T0mShane Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Who is the team leader if not Jamal Adams. What other player is as good as him on this team. Jachai Polite 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Jachai Polite “Leader” who cares? Guy is a player.....may not be worth 17 mil...but really who is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'm making the assumption he is the team leader here, because he and all you fanboys say he is. It's up to you to state how his leadership positively impacts the team. Go. One, its not fanboys. Its his coaches, GM and teammates. All the hate from you and a handful of haters doesn't change that. Now your turn, show us how his leadership doesnt impact the team. That same dumb question that is unanswerable to anyone can work both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Lets get the deal done because I have a feeling I will be hearing the phrase... "a high paid All Pro safety is a luxury!"... in my sleep come April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Jachai Polite You get credit for laughing at that as hard as me in the live draft thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1) "Leader" isn't always "Best Player". And anyways, CJ Mosley >> Jamal Adams. Best NY Jets player on the IR. Try again hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Jachai Polite Your bar is low your heroes are squeegee men on the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Your bar is low your heroes are squeegee men on the streets. Pretty outrageous insult coming from a longtime subscriber to Squeegee Boys magazine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Now your turn, show us how his leadership doesnt impact the team. The team is 16-32 since he was drafted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, dbatesman said: The team is 16-32 since he was drafted. Probably like 10-38 without him though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Its his coaches, GM and teammates. The players and coaches sure do recognize him as a leader. That doesn't answer the question. How does he positively impact the team? Winning a popularity contest doesn't move the needle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Pretty outrageous insult coming from a longtime subscriber to Squeegee Boys magazine. No subscriber here as a matter fact never heard of it until now. Were you part-owners of it like you were here with JetNation. Take that as a compliment, better a has been than a never was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: The team is 16-32 since he was drafted. Yeah and what does that prove about Adams? That this is a 16 win team without him? Maybe, maybe not. WTF knows. Point is whining that there's no proof he makes the team better, is ass backwards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The players and coaches sure do recognize him as a leader. That doesn't answer the question. How does he positively impact the team? Winning a popularity contest doesn't move the needle. Well that means the leadership issue, the one you claim isn't true is true, not because "fanboys say its true" but because its true. How does he not impact there team. Wheres your proof that he doesn't? He was injured on the first drive in Cincy, D played like shlt. He missed the Ravens game, D played like shlt. Who knows, want to prove that didnt happen, you go for it. No one proves anything but the insinuation that a really good player, give him that, an all pro player doesn't help any team is dumb and really not worth debating. Cant think of a team, a sport, where those type players aren't wanted. And one more thing, a popularity contest isn't leadership. No one believes that. You really don’t. It’s just nonsense to cloud his value by trying to devalue leadership that you first said was a fanboy claim and not real 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Still waiting for someone to quantify how Jamal's "leadership" positively impacts the team.Sure ... Jamal Leadership > Sam Leadership ::Cond(Sam Leadership + Jamal Leadership, Superbowl, Rebuild + Trade Jamal + Draft New QB)Compare(Jamal::Robbie):: +100000000Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Sure ... Jamal Leadership > Sam Leadership :: Cond(Sam Leadership + Jamal Leadership, Superbowl, Rebuild + Trade Jamal + Draft New QB) Compare(Jamal::Robbie):: +100000000 Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk I have no idea what this means. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I have no idea what this means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Lizard King said: People talk about this guy like he’s Ed Reed. Wtf am i missing? Nothing, we live in an age where bluster has replaced substance. The louder you are the more people think you have something to say. Keep repeating it and you must be right in the eyes of many. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 9:57 AM, Beerfish said: It is amazing how people see 'pro bowl' and a guy who declares himself a leader (with little evidence from teammates that he is viewed as one) and just totally ignore what he actually does on the field and at what cost to the team. I’m not sure “little evidence” is accurate - the players voted him team MVP and Gase has called him their leader on defense several times. The argument against paying Jamal is that he plays a relatively unimportant position, not that he isn’t a very good to great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 1:36 PM, Jetsfan80 said: He's going to want $17M+. No amount of marketing makes a Safety with 2 career INTs worth that kind of coin. If he thinks his value is so high then let’s sign him to an incentive-based contract say 10 million a year with another 5 million per year based on bonus incentives - the bonus being he has to get at least three interceptions per year that way we can be assured We wouldn’t have to pay him the bonus. Not that I really Would do this he’s still under contract so let him play out his contract and if he wants to sit and refuses to come to camp, F his azz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said: Nothing, we live in an age where bluster has replaced substance. The louder you are the more people think you have something to say. Keep repeating it and you must be right in the eyes of many. He wasn’t top 20 in anything last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 12:35 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Jamal Adams has never had as good of a season as Kerry Rhodes has had. Twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Lizard King said: He wasn’t top 20 in anything last year I think he's a very good player. He's doing what is he is being asked to do as far as I know. However, the Jets essentially control his contract for the next three years if they want to. If he think he's going to get some historic deal that busts the cap I hope he gets it elsewhere. He should also understand he is being put into a position to be a play maker while everyone else is occupying blockers and he's roaming picking his spots to rush from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I didn't read the article but nobody owes anybody anything. If you know what you're worth, go out and get it. Talking about it is just silly. So the Jets don't owe him a contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 6:54 AM, T0mShane said: Pretty outrageous insult coming from a longtime subscriber to Squeegee Boys magazine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 bahaha at this point he is toying with you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Maxman said: I didn't read the article but nobody owes anybody anything. If you know what you're worth, go out and get it. Talking about it is just silly. So the Jets don't owe him a contract extension. The only thing the Jets owe him is the contract he is already signed to and really it’s not up! (Current playing value aside) we have holes to fill and if he wants this thing turned around and for us to stop being perennial losers than he might need to temper his loud...very vocal expectations for a new one this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: The only thine the Jets owe him is the contract he is already signed to and really it’s not up! (Current playing value aside) we have holes to fill and if he wants this thing turned around and for us to stop being perennial losers than he might need to temper his loud...very vocal expectations for a new one this offseason. He wants to get paid AND win? Preposterous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: He wants to get paid AND win? Preposterous. The only thing the Jets owe him is the contract he is already signed to. He can want for whatever he chooses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: The only thing the Jets owe him is the contract he is already signed to. He can want for whatever he chooses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 4:27 PM, Embrace the Suck said: I think he's a very good player. He's doing what is he is being asked to do as far as I know. However, the Jets essentially control his contract for the next three years if they want to. If he think he's going to get some historic deal that busts the cap I hope he gets it elsewhere. He should also understand he is being put into a position to be a play maker while everyone else is occupying blockers and he's roaming picking his spots to rush from. He signed a contract. I hope he holds out and they take him all the way into restricted free agency. New sheriff and all that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: The only thing the Jets owe him is the contract he is already signed to and really it’s not up! (Current playing value aside) we have holes to fill and if he wants this thing turned around and for us to stop being perennial losers than he might need to temper his loud...very vocal expectations for a new one this offseason. You keep saying things like "he might need to temper his loud... very vocal expectations for a new contract this offseason" and I will keep asking you to show me when he's said that so loudly and vocally. To be honest the only time I hear about it is when you and the other Jamal haters go off on another tangent about you wanting to trade him. So I'll ask you again. Show me where he said he wants to be traded, and give me some examples of when he's "loudly and vocally demanding a new contract". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 5:18 PM, Maxman said: I didn't read the article but nobody owes anybody anything. If you know what you're worth, go out and get it. Talking about it is just silly. So the Jets don't owe him a contract extension. He’s all bluster but I’m willing to gamble on our new GM telling him to suck it up and Adams doing as such. Just a gut feeling from a decent poker player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/15/2020 at 11:03 AM, joewilly12 said: Best Safety in the NFL best player on the NY Jets. Sadly some fans are so scorned from losing here for so long they don't appreciate greatness. Certain fans just like to complain about something to verify their existence. Safety a finishing piece, not a building block. Adams is just a reminder the Jets passed on Watson / Mahomes and that Bowles was inept. If they can get a 2nd rnd pick for him, i'll help pack his bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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