UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TeddEY said: What if this all means that Douglas knows this team is still far away from a championship, despite a strong finish against the bottom of the league, and he's not at all interested in getting locked into players long term that he doesn't want here long term, and this is both true and good. More likely DOuglas is using th plan that his mentor Ozzie Newsome used. Unfortunately the rabid Jets fanbase will not allow that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: What if this all means that Douglas knows this team is still far away from a championship, despite a strong finish against the bottom of the league, and he's not at all interested in getting locked into players long term that he doesn't want here long term, and this is both true and good. You'd hope that were the case. There are ways to communicate this message without saying it, which the Jets are consistently bad at as well. Right now, the fanbase is just hoping the new guy is competent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TeddEY said: What if this all means that Douglas knows this team is still far away from a championship, despite a strong finish against the bottom of the league, and he's not at all interested in getting locked into players long term that he doesn't want here long term, and this is both true and good. If true then he should have been shedding players last year and getting more draft assets other than just Leo. Hey I have no issue if the mantra is 'we are going to build via the draft' but if so you have to pull a Idzik and get lots of picks and high picks. I hope he didn't actually buy into the total aberration of a7-9 season thinking this team was not as bad as it was. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Matt39 said: You'd hope that were the case. There are ways to communicate this message without saying it, which the Jets are consistently bad at as well. Right now, the fanbase is just hoping the new guy is competent. Let's be honest. Jets fans are so jaded and loving misery that they wouldnt think he was conpetant until he was holding the trophy. That's their flaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Beerfish said: If true then he should have been shedding players last year and getting more draft assets other than just Leo. Hey I have no issue if the mantra is 'we are going to build via the draft' but if so you have to pull a Idzik and get lots of picks and high picks. I hope he didn't actually buy into the total aberration of a7-9 season thinking this team was not as bad as it was. So Parcells is a liar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If true then he should have been shedding players last year and getting more draft assets other than just Leo. Hey I have no issue if the mantra is 'we are going to build via the draft' but if so you have to pull a Idzik and get lots of picks and high picks. I hope he didn't actually buy into the total aberration of a7-9 season thinking this team was not as bad as it was. Maccagnan was a scout who thought linearly and that mindset followed him into the Jets job. Douglas has the same type of background, just feels like he's more of a grinder/solid college scout that may be lacking the big picture 5 steps ahead thinking it takes to be a GM. It's not as if the Jets interview process is being run by high level people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: You'd hope that were the case. There are ways to communicate this message without saying it, which the Jets are consistently bad at as well. Right now, the fanbase is just hoping the new guy is competent. Why are you owed an explanation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flgreen Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It's just the calm before the "Breaking News: Jamal Adams traded" crapstorm. @T0mShane is beating himself into a frenzy as we type in preparation of this announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Mogglez said: UNcalled for. True to form 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: Why are you owed an explanation? who said I was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If true then he should have been shedding players last year and getting more draft assets other than just Leo. Hey I have no issue if the mantra is 'we are going to build via the draft' but if so you have to pull a Idzik and get lots of picks and high picks. I hope he didn't actually buy into the total aberration of a7-9 season thinking this team was not as bad as it was. I agree he should have traded Adams, but maybe he wasn't allowed to. Maybe ownership intervened. Maybe he believes Adams is part of the future. I wouldn't be happy about that, but I certainly understand the lack of an Adams trade. There's literally no one else who would have brought the Jets back a high draft pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Mogglez said: Wow. I know you aren't prone to exaggeration. Is what you are hearing behind the scenes that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: UNcalled for. True to form Cry more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, maury77 said: Wow. I know you aren't prone to exaggeration. Is what you are hearing behind the scenes that bad? No. I just think he's a clown. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: They have 3 first round picks in a deep OT and WR draft. That's because they knew how to tank, unlike the Jets, but hey we've got that fantastic final game win over Buffalo to carry momentum into the 2020 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Only the Jets could make coronavirus worse 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: Cry more. Lose more lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Let's be honest. Jets fans are so jaded and loving misery that they wouldnt think he was conpetant until he was holding the trophy. That's their flaw Indeed. Think of all the super good GMs and coaches and players we've run out of town. Let's make a list of them, we can take turns, you start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Big_Slick said: That's because they knew how to tank, unlike the Jets, but hey we've got that fantastic final game win over Buffalo to carry momentum into the 2020 season. Give them credit. Plus all that cap space. Then next year they currently have a bunch more draft capital. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: I agree he should have traded Adams, but maybe he wasn't allowed to. Maybe ownership intervened. Maybe he believes Adams is part of the future. I wouldn't be happy about that, but I certainly understand the lack of an Adams trade. There's literally no one else who would have brought the Jets back a high draft pick. If Douglas believes that Adams can be a key player in our success, I don’t hate not trading him. Douglas could be looking to build a foundation with Sam and Jamal as the only pricey pieces. Draft well around those two and build a core. I don’t agree with it but I can understand the mentality. But I hate all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: who said I was You're talking about how these messages are communicated to the fans, no? Or the lack of it. He doesn't need to communicate anything. He just needs to make the team better, and that's going to take time. If he, like you, and I, believes that Darnold has a long way to go or isn't the answer, then this is exactly the right thing to be doing right now. Sure things up, stop the bleeding, but over-invest in absolutely nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Lose more lol Don't worry, the Jets have the "losing" thing covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Oh it's entertainment. Calm down STFU already. All day with the same crap. Go back on Twitter and get mad at them.... give us a break with the "its just entertainment" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: That's because they knew how to tank, unlike the Jets, but hey we've got that fantastic final game win over Buffalo to carry momentum into the 2020 season. They won 5 games it’s not like they tanked to 1 overall. Instead they did the smart thing. Unload dead weight and accumulate draft capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohhthepain Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Any news from Robby Anderson or his camp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Welp after today's sh*t fest, I'm officially back on the trade Jamal Adams train. I'd be calling the Cowboys and Raiders and try to pry a 1st and 3rd rounder from them. It's apparent that JD intends to fix the Jets through the draft so he's going to need all the picks he can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I'm not sure what this means exactly but are we turning on JD? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said: You're talking about how these messages are communicated to the fans, no? Or the lack of it. He doesn't need to communicate anything. He just needs to make the team better, and that's going to take time. If he, like you, and I, believes that Darnold has a long way to go or isn't the answer, then this is exactly the right thing to be doing right now. Sure things up, stop the bleeding, but over-invest in absolutely nothing. Then we need to trade Jamal and officially undo what Mac did and generate as many assets as possible to PROPERLY build a team from scratch. Sam can still be part of the equation but we’d need to cost control other positions if paying him FQB money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, TeddEY said: You're talking about how these messages are communicated to the fans, no? Or the lack of it. He doesn't need to communicate anything. He just needs to make the team better, and that's going to take time. If he, like you, and I, believes that Darnold has a long way to go or isn't the answer, then this is exactly the right thing to be doing right now. Sure things up, stop the bleeding, but over-invest in absolutely nothing. I think an overarching and fair assessment on the current state of the roster that isnt the typical PR spin, along with some brief insight into his long term vision would go a long way. I understand that's an unpopular opinion, but we're relying on a rookie GM without a track record to rebuild one of the worst rosters in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: STFU already. All day with the same crap. Go back on Twitter and get mad at them.... give us a break with the "its just entertainment" UWF: "I'm going to insult hardcore fans, but I'm gonna consider myself a casual fan, but I'm also going to post on a Jets message board and lecture hardcore fans" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Matt39 said: I think an overarching and fair assessment on the current state of the roster that isnt the typical PR spin, along with a brief insight into his long term vision would go a long way. I understand that's an unpopular opinion, but we're relying on a rookie GM without a track record to rebuild one of the worst rosters in the league. No one is coming to the microphone to say we suck, and we're not going anywhere next year. No one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just by reading the last page I'm gonna take a wild guess and say there's more nail biting, soiled panties, and general freaking out in this thread than in the covid 19 pandemic thread. Gotta love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, CTM said: I'm not sure what this means exactly but are we turning on JD? I was late on the Fire Macc bus, I won't make that mistake twice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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