Wonderboy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: Orrrr. We just sign Yannik to the same deal we’d give Judon. Keep Jamal. And draft our OL at 11. Whos with me? Anyone? Anyone? We just sign Yannik to the same deal we’d give Judon. Trade Jamal to Dallas For pick 17 and a 4Th, draft 2 OL at 11 and 17 and use the 2nd on a WR, the 2 three’s on a cb and dare I say, a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, JTJet said: So basically Ravens get - Jamal Adams and 6th Jets get - Thomas OT, Jefferson WR, and Judon DE 1 starter for 3 starters? As much as some people love Jamal. Why would anyone oppose this scenario? Love Jamal, dont want him to be traded - would do this deal in one second. Zero chance Baltimore would do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, JTJet said: So basically Ravens get - Jamal Adams and 6th Jets get - Thomas OT, Jefferson WR, and Judon DE 1 starter for 3 starters? As much as some people love Jamal. Why would anyone oppose this scenario? I am not a "love Jamal" guy and I don't like it. The answer is simple. Money. 1st of all, the Jets are not "getting" 11 in this scenario. They have 11. Whether they do this deal or not. I don't know much about Jefferson yet, but I am not impressed with "3 starters." I remember when Idzik drafted 6 starters in 2013. Color me unimpressed. They aren't getting Judon. They are getting one year of Judon at an exhorbitant price. More than I would pay for him on the open market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: No, the 11th pick is already ours. We get the OT regardless. It’s Adams + a 6th for Judon + Jefferson, just like it says. Read the whole thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 45 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I am not a "love Jamal" guy and I don't like it. The answer is simple. Money. 1st of all, the Jets are not "getting" 11 in this scenario. They have 11. Whether they do this deal or not. I don't know much about Jefferson yet, but I am not impressed with "3 starters." I remember when Idzik drafted 6 starters in 2013. Color me unimpressed. They aren't getting Judon. They are getting one year of Judon at an exhorbitant price. More than I would pay for him on the open market. I corrected myself long ago. Still, point remains. We would get 2 starters for 1 essentially. Comparing any other GM to Idzik is like trying to travel into deep space while comparing space shuttles to a used condom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, JTJet said: I corrected myself long ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 hours ago, JTJet said: Read the whole thread. That wouldn’t be conducive to ball-busting. No thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Warfish said: Well said lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, JTJet said: So basically Ravens get - Jamal Adams and 6th Jets get - Thomas OT, Jefferson WR, and Judon DE 1 starter for 3 starters? As much as some people love Jamal. Why would anyone oppose this scenario? Well, you know, Jamal is THE saviour to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 13 hours ago, JTJet said: I corrected myself long ago. Still, point remains. We would get 2 starters for 1 essentially. Comparing any other GM to Idzik is like trying to travel into deep space while comparing space shuttles to a used condom. and I wrote that post 10 hours ago. God knows when I started it because Ape's post saying the same thing wasn't up yet and it says that was from 12 hours ago. 2 starters for one is not a big deal. We don't just need starters. Do you know who the starters were on this team? Darryl Roberts, Alex Lewis, Neville Hewitt and James Burgess started the bulk of the games. Comparing any other GM to Idzik is like comparing space shuttles to a used condom? Which one is Maccagnan? There is a thread comparing them and they seem kind of similar to me. All of the above is irrelevant. As I said, the issue is the money. Paying Judon the franchise figure it not something I am interested in, let alone giving up an asset for the privilege. It would be nice to get 28, but I'd rather have another Edge guy locked up, than spend $20M for one year of Judon and be in the same predicament next year. Adams is under team control for 2 years. I am not trading him for a free agent and a pick at the bottom of the round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: and I wrote that post 10 hours ago. God knows when I started it because Ape's post saying the same thing wasn't up yet and it says that was from 12 hours ago. 2 starters for one is not a big deal. We don't just need starters. Do who starters were on this team? Darryl Roberts, Alex Lewis, Neville Hewitt and James Burgess started the bulk of the games. Comparign any other GM to Idzik is like comparing space shuttles to a used condom? Which one is Maccagnan? There is a thread comparing them and they seem kind of similar to me. All of the above is irrelevant. As I said, the issue is the money. Paying Judon the franchise figure it not something I am interested in, let alone giving up an asset for the privilege. It would be nice to get 28, but I'd rather have another Edge guy locked up, than spend $20M for one year of Judon and be in the same predicament next year. Adams is under team control for 2 years. I am not trading him for a free agent and a pick at the bottom of the round. Well I meant current GMs, but Mac is also another used condom. And I mean the kind that came out of a quarter vending machine in a truck stop bathroom... But fair point, I would agree with you. I am just looking at it from a risk/reward/timing standpoint. That pick may be at the end of the 1st round but it raises our chances of a quality player (if JD can draft l), and we get another quality player back as well, both probably at positions more in need than safety. Personally I dont think Jamal should be let go for less than 2 1st rd picks. But reality is that's most likely not going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 hours ago, KRL said: I would do that in a minute. A legit pass rusher and a #1 for a safety??? Sign me up Over the past two seasons, that legit pass rusher has 1.5 more sacks than Jordan Jenkins. In two more games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Well I meant current GMs, but Mac is also another used condom. And I mean the kind that came out of a quarter vending machine in a truck stop bathroom... But fair point, I would agree with you. I am just looking at it from a risk/reward/timing standpoint. That pick may be at the end of the 1st round but it raises our chances of a quality player (if JD can draft l), and we get another quality player back as well, both probably at positions more in need than safety. Personally I dont think Jamal should be let go for less than 2 1st rd picks. But reality is that's most likely not going to happen. Giving the Ravens something for Judon is a loss. It would be like getting something for Robby Anderson. They are good players, but not worth the tag. I'm not doing Adams for 28. He is worth more, or the same next year after we get another cheap season out of him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 For all the people thinking this is a good idea: The purpose of moving Adams is to get him off the books before he demands a huge contract. Giving Matt Judon a huge contract sort of defeats the purpose. We don't want to take the Dallas first for Adams, and we are going to take #28? I wouldn't trade our 6th for Matt Judon on the tag straight up. In fact, I don't think I would take Matt Judon and the tag, plus their 6th. Am I underrating Judon that much? It's possible, but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 If they are going to trade Adams, they better do better than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I’d want more or wouldn’t want to include the 6th rounder. Judon is tagged. Jamal will be under contract for 2 more years with no tag needed. Jamal for Judon and #28. Now we’re talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 So basically Ravens get - Jamal Adams and 6th Jets get - Thomas OT, Jefferson WR, and Judon DE 1 starter for 3 starters? As much as some people love Jamal. Why would anyone oppose this scenario? Draft picks are not guaranteed starters. Judon is not as good as Jamal Adams. The Thomas pick in this scenario is with the number 11 pick which belongs to us so that does not count toward the number. Essentially we get judon and Jefferson (who we could likely have with our second round pick if we wanted him) for Adams basically what this scenario does is gets us another Jordan Jenkins at the cost of Jamal Adams. This trade does not make our team better...sorry.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, bealeb319 said: Draft picks are not guaranteed starters. Judon is not as good as Jamal Adams. The Thomas pick in this scenario is with the number 11 pick which belongs to us so that does not count toward the number. Essentially we get judon and Jefferson (who we could likely have with our second round pick if we wanted him) for Adams basically what this scenario does is gets us another Jordan Jenkins at the cost of Jamal Adams. This trade does not make our team better...sorry. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Please read the whole thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 12:56 PM, jetstream23 said: I’d want more or wouldn’t want to include the 6th rounder. Judon is tagged. Jamal will be under contract for 2 more years with no tag needed. Jamal for Judon and #28. Now we’re talking. Yeah look I’m not the biggest Jamal fan but he is a hell of a player, young, and under contract for a couple more years. If we are gonna trade him it has to be a home run. I would want a first and a good player like a good OL or defender coming back. If we are doing it for picks we need to get at least a first and second 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I love Jamal but Judon for 16 mil + a 1st rounder makes way more sense than signing Jamal. This trade would never happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Bergen Jet said: I love Jamal but Judon for 16 mil + a 1st rounder makes way more sense than signing Jamal. This trade would never happen though. Seriously? Even if they don't pay Adams, they control him longer than they would Judon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Forget the Ravens. I would give the Cowboys another call. Offer Adams in exchange for pick 17 and La'el Collins. Knowing Jerry Jones nature he likes to make a splash and if JD dangles Adams enough I think he would bite on that proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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