Combine News, Notes & Updates

[sec101row23]

 

[Lith]

MOre from Becton.  Not quite sure what he means but really beginning to like this kid.

 

[sec101row23]

 

[Patriot Killa]

10 minutes ago, Lith said:

MOre from Becton.  Not quite sure what he means but really beginning to like this kid.

 

He means gritty and tough.

[JustInFudge]

13 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

For many jet fans, signing Adams to a long term deal and making him the most expensive player on the team, would (rightly or wrongly) signify that the new gm is not fully committed to building an offense.  Of course, the jets are usually looking to free agency to fill key offensive needs b/c they ignore them in the draft and then can’t come close to drafting them when mccagnan and idzik tried.

truth, the main reason why signing Adams to a long term deal shouldn’t affect whatever else douglas wants to do, is because besides darnold there is simply nobody else who was drafted by the team who will need to be paid anything substantial.  

We can debate whether you should pay or trade Adams, or how much value his position has in the modern nfl, but he is not the problem.  If paying Adams were an issue, then you’d be looking at a good drafting team like the ravens where they have to let good guys walk in FA b/c they can’t pay everyone and have viable cheaper substitutes.  

So if Joe Douglas resigns Jamal Adams but every other move he makes this offseason is in effort to improve the offense, he's not committed to building an offense?  Like, he spends every other dollar and every single pick on offense but because he resigned his best player, he's not committed to offense?  I'm sorry, this is another ridiculous take.  

 

[Patriot Killa]

 

[Patriot Killa]

Players the Jets have met with so far.

Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama

CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma

Jalen Reagor WR TCU

Meckhi Becton OT Louisville

Matt Hennessy, C Temple

[Augustiniak]

6 minutes ago, JiF said:

So if Joe Douglas resigns Jamal Adams but every other move he makes this offseason is in effort to improve the offense, he's not committed to building an offense?  Like, he spends every other dollar and every single pick on offense but because he resigned his best player, he's not committed to offense?  I'm sorry, this is another ridiculous take.  

 

there are fans who think this, that if you pay adams what he wants then the focus will remain on defense.  that's why i included 'rightly or wrongly'.  this is a skeptical bunch, we've had defensive-minded custodians for more than 20 years and there are jet fans who don't want to tie up mega money in any defensive player who is not a real pass rusher.

[JustInFudge]

13 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I wasn’t saying that Douglas would be spineless for signing Adams, just that it’d be reminiscent of spineless Jets moves from prior years. IMO, if the opportunity exists to turn Adams into significant pieces that can elevate Darnold and he passes on that opportunity, then he’s a fool and we’re doomed

I dont disagree.  If someone is willing to hand Joe a haul for Jamal, then you absolutely do it.  It should be refreshing to know that he clearly understands that as he did take the call to see what teams are offering.  It's not like he stuck his fingers in his ears and started screaming you cant have Jamal!!!!   Clearly it wasnt enough at that time and I just dont see a scenario where suddenly that changes.  

Good news is, Joe has already said publicly that he grew up in the industry with the mindset you always take the call.  So it doesnt sound like he's a fool.  It sounds like he's got a price that he's not willing to budge on and more power to him. 

 

[JustInFudge]

11 hours ago, T0mShane said:

If he gives Jamal $17+ per, he’s probably not going to fix this mess at all

Again, fun to say and it's amusing but there is absolutely nothing to indicate this is fact. 

[JustInFudge]

Sorry to derail the thread....

back to the combine...

[Patriot Killa]

 

[Patriot Killa]

The Jets social media pages need help...

 

[Patriot Killa]

This one is for you @14 in Green

 

[JustInFudge]

9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Players the Jets have met with so far.

Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama

CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma

Jalen Reagor WR TCU

Meckhi Becton OT Louisville

Matt Hennessy, C Temple

Seems like someone is focused on building an offense...

sorry, I had too!!!

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

Seems like someone is focused no building an offense...

sorry, I had too!!!

Hopefully we can get 2 or more of the players on that list thru certain means.  

[Patriot Killa]

364 lbs lord have mercy

[Patriot Killa]

 

[sec101row23]

 

[Patriot Killa]

 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

13 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I wasn’t saying that Douglas would be spineless for signing Adams, just that it’d be reminiscent of spineless Jets moves from prior years. IMO, if the opportunity exists to turn Adams into significant pieces that can elevate Darnold and he passes on that opportunity, then he’s a fool and we’re doomed

Tampons in aisle 3.

[derp]

Man this OL class has some size beyond Becton. Wills and Thomas came in a little lighter than listed but still big - Wirfs right on the nose at 320.

Beyond those guys in that next tier - Jones, Jackson, Peart, Charles all came in around 320 which was bigger than they were listed. Jones and Jackson were listed at 310, Peart 303, Charles sub 300. The centers Harris and Hennessy both were listed sub 300 and measured in above 300 too.

Think this group puts on a show. Douglas can really do a lot if he just takes guys at the strong positions.

[nycdan]

My lord, look at the wingspan on Alex Taylor.  The dude is absolutely huge.  Small school guy but that's the only thing 'small' about him.  

53 minutes ago, Lith said:

Here is a site that is keeping all measurements updated.  OL i spasted in below:

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/NFL-Combine-2020-schedule-results-measurements-athletic-testing-144187776/#144187776_5

 

 

Player	Pos	School	Ht	Wt	Arm	Hand	Wing
Trey Adams	OT	Washington	6-8	318	34 3/8	9 7/8	81 1/2
Hakeem Adeniji	OT	Kansas	6-4 3/8	302	33 3/4	10	82 3/8
Tremayne Anchrum	OG	Clemson	6-1 7/8	314	33 5/8	9 5/8	80 1/2
Ben Bartch	OT	St. John's (MN)	6-5 3/4	309	32 7/8	9	80 1/2
Mekhi Becton	OT	Louisville	6-7 3/8	364	35 5/8	10 3/4	83 1/4
Tyler Biadasz	OC	Wisconsin	6-3 5/8	314	32 1/4	10	79 7/8
Ben Bredeson	OG	Michigan	6-4 5/8	315	31 1/8	10 1/8	76 3/4
Cohl Cabral	OC	Arizona State	6-4 7/8	300	32 1/4	10	78 1/2
Saahdiq Charles	OT	LSU	6-4 1/8	321	33	10	80 3/8
Cameron Clark	OT	Charlotte	6-4 1/2	308	34 1/8	11	82 3/4
Ezra Cleveland	OT	Boise State	6-6	311	33 3/8	9	80 3/8
Trystan Colon-Castillo	OC	Missouri	6-3	313	30 1/2	9 1/4	76 1/4
Lloyd Cushenberry III	OC	LSU	6-3 1/8	312	34 1/8	10 3/8	84 1/4
Jack Driscoll	OT	Auburn	6-4 5/8	306	33	9 7/8	78 1/2
Yasir Durant	OG	Missouri	6-6	331	34 3/4	9 1/2	82 3/4
Jake Hanson	OC	Oregon	6-4 3/8	303	32 3/4	9 1/4	78
Nick Harris	OC	Washington	6-0 7/8	302	32 1/8	9 3/4	77 1/2
Charlie Heck	OT	North Carolina	6-7 5/8	311	34 1/8	10 1/4	82 1/4
Matt Hennessey	OC	Temple	6-3 7/8	307	32 1/4	10	79 3/4
Justin Herron	OT	Wake Forest	6-3 5/8	308	33 1/2	8 7/8	80 1/2
Robert Hunt	OG	Louisiana	6-5 1/8	323	33 1/2	10 3/4	82
Keith Ismael	OC	San Diego State	6-2 7/8	309	32 1/4	10	78 7/8
Cordel Iwuagwu	OG	TCU	6-2 7/8	309	33 3/4	10 1/8	81
Austin Jackson	OT	USC	6-4 7/8	322	34 1/8	10 1/4	82
Jonah Jackson	OG	Ohio State	6-3 1/2	306	33 1/2	10 1/2	77 7/8
Josh Jones	OT	Houston	6-5	319	33 7/8	10 1/8	79 7/8
Solomon Kindley	OG	Georgia	6-3 1/4	337	32 1/4	10	77 3/4
Shane Lemieux	OG	Oregon	6-3 7/8	310	32 1/4	9 1/2	77
Damien Lewis	OG	LSU	6-2	327	33	10 1/4	79 1/2
Colton McKivitz	OT	West Virginia	6-6 1/8	306	33 3/4	10	81 5/8
John Molchon	OG	Boise State	6-5 1/4	309	31 1/8	9 1/2	76 1/2
Kyle Murphy	OG	Rhode Island	6-3 1/4	316	33 7/8	10	79 7/8
Netane Muti	OG	Fresno State	6-2 7/8	315	31 3/4	10 5/8	76 1/2
Lucas Niang	OT	TCU	6-6	315	34 1/4	10 1/2	83 1/8
Michael Onwenu	OG	Michigan	6-2 5/8	344	34 3/8	10 1/2	82
Matt Peart	OT	UConn	6-6 5/8	318	36 5/8	9 1/2	86 1/2
Tyre Phillips	OT	Mississippi State	6-5	331	35 1/8	10 3/8	84 5/8
Danny Pinter	OG	Ball State	6-4 1/4	306	31 7/8	9 1/2	77 7/8
Cesar Ruiz	OC	Michigan	6-2 3/4	307	33 1/8	11	79 5/8
Jon Runyan Jr.	OT	Michigan	6-4 1/4	306	33 1/4	9 1/8	79 5/8
John Simpson	OG	Clemson	6-4 1/8	321	34 1/8	11 1/4	82 3/8
Terence Steele	OT	Texas Tech	6-5 7/8	312	35 1/8	9 1/2	85 1/2
Logan Stenberg	OG	Kentucky	6-6	317	32 1/2	10 1/4	80
Simon Stepaniak	OG	Indiana	6-4 1/8	313	32	10 3/8	79 7/8
Alex Taylor	OT	South Carolina State	6-8 3/8	308	36 1/8	11 1/4	88
Andrew Thomas	OT	Georgia	6-5 1/8	315	36 1/8	10 1/4	83 1/2
Calvin Throckmorton	OT	Oregon	6-5	317	32 1/2	9 1/2	77 7/8
Prince Tega Wanogho	OT	Auburn	6-5	308	33 1/2	10 3/8	80 3/4
Darryl Williams	OC	Mississippi State	6-2 3/8	304	32 1/8	9 3/4	77 7/8
Jedrick Wills Jr.	OT	Alabama	6-4 1/4	312	34 1/4	10	83 1/2
Isaiah Wilson	OT	Georgia	6-6 1/2	350	35 1/2	10 1/4	84 3/8
Tristan Wirfs	OT	Iowa	6-4 7/8	320	34	10 1/4	80 1/4

[sec101row23]

1 minute ago, derp said:

Man this OL class has some size beyond Becton. Wills and Thomas came in a little lighter than listed but still big - Wirfs right on the nose at 320.

Beyond those guys in that next tier - Jones, Jackson, Peart, Charles all came in around 320 which was bigger than they were listed. Jones and Jackson were listed at 310, Peart 303, Charles sub 300. The centers Harris and Hennessy both were listed sub 300 and measured in above 300 too.

Think this group puts on a show. Douglas can really do a lot if he just takes guys at the strong positions.

Thomas has longer arms and a wider wing span than Becton.  Those guys are monsters.  Will be interesting to see these guys in drills.  

[section314]

15 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

This one is for you @14 in Green

 

Impressive. Somebody making $10mm/yr admitting he needs to be prepared for work.

[sec101row23]

 

[derp]

Also regarding Adams - I think that decision is really nuanced. Is he going to sign for highest paid safety money or does he need highest paid on the team money? In either case when someone else inevitably goes above whatever the threshold is, is he going to play the contract out or pout and demand a new one?

I don’t totally buy into the devaluing the position argument. The defense last year was not great but fine with essentially a bunch of late round UDFA types and Adams. Adams made some huge, game changing plays too. I think he kind of elevates level of play of the defense and that’s what you look for. And a lot of sustained great defenses have had really strong safety play over an extended period.

To me the big thing is if he’s going to be a headache or not. And it kind of seems like it but it’s hard to know how much of that is his personality versus immaturity. I think on the field he’s worth it though. Leave the defense alone for a bit and focus on the offense after that.

[Lith]

Is it possible for a mod to move the Jamal Adams posts out of this thread so we can have one thread dedicated to the Combine.  There was a new Jamal thread created yesterday to dsicuss Douglas' comments -- if possible can posts be moved there:

 

[derp]

6 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Thomas has longer arms and a wider wing span than Becton.  Those guys are monsters.  Will be interesting to see these guys in drills.  

And Peart’s got the longest arms in the class and second longest wingspan plus experience all over the line. Fun group.

[sec101row23]

 

[Lith]

Was hoping to see this one.

[Wonderboy]

49 minutes ago, JiF said:

Seems like someone is focused on building an offense...

sorry, I had too!!!

Trade Adams and you can add another 10 offensive players to that list with one being a safety ?

[Lith]

 

[Wonderboy]

12 hours ago, HighPitch said:

Forget it warfish......You're rabble rousing for a debate. Again.

The whole Cultural Appropriation concept is rooted in extreme political correctness and therefore political.

Youre not a dumb ass, so stop frontin

Wow fastball right to the ear! ?

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said:

Players the Jets have met with so far.

Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama

CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma

Jalen Reagor WR TCU

Meckhi Becton OT Louisville

Matt Hennessy, C Temple

I'm sensing a....pattern.