Robby Anderson: players play and coaches coach.

[choon328]

9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

No one said JD was definitely going to sign Robby? Lol wut. This makes me question if you even know what we’re debating about.

I said JD will offer a fair deal, you said he will not take Robby serious and is just talking out of the side of his neck. 

Most likely both false on your end.

You also said JD wants him "long term ". Nowhere in that press conference did he say that.

[BROOKLYN JET]

 

[Patriot Killa]

4 minutes ago, choon328 said:

You also said JD wants him "long term ". Nowhere in that press conference did he say that.

Well when you sign a 25 year old to his second contract usually it means “long term”. 

Long term in football years is about 4+

do you not expect Robby to get the standard 4 year deal that most second contracts get?

[choon328]

25 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Well when you sign a 25 year old to his second contract usually it means “long term”. 

Long term in football years is about 4+

do you not expect Robby to get the standard 4 year deal that most second contracts get?

When a guy is a mistake away from missing 10+ games he's not necessarily guaranteed 4 years.  Any contact structure a team gives him will likely have an easy out after 2.

[Patriot Killa]

5 minutes ago, choon328 said:

When a guy is a mistake away from missing 10+ games he's not necessarily guaranteed 4 years.  Any contact structure a team gives him will likely have an easy out after 2.

Escape hatches within contracts and 4 year deals can co-exist.

[HawkeyeJet]

Robby, you've had what, 3 or 4 offensive coaches in 4 years? And they all use you the exact same way.

It's likely not a coincidence.

[Eaton Beaver]

6 hours ago, MindOverMatter said:

I hope he stays but you may be right, he'll probably chase the largest contract. The thing is you take away Anderson from this offense and any threat of the deep ball is gone. Crowder, Enunwa?, Bell, Thomas are not burners. Even in the draft you would have to committ a 1st round pick on Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs or try to risk it on guys like Reagor, or someone else to fill that speed role. Not sure Vyncent Smith or anyone else is ready to step up, could be wrong though.

Much rather resign Anderson for 13-14mil and add someone like Mims, or Higgins.

The problem is that he has already said he will not give the Jets any hometown discount. That is the only way he gets resigned. Who actually believes he is a number one receiver? He is between a number 2 and 3. He has a good game in between 3 games of nothing. People on here want to overvalue our current players, let the market establish their worth and see how it shakes out.

[Jet Nut]

17 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Also, I get what he's saying.  He doesn't choose what routes the coaches want him to run. That being said, he is a specialist at the "Go" Route (which is not the hardest route to run) and so-so on other routes.  That's not on the coaches.

I think he doesn't mean its the hardest play to run, technically speaking, I think he means in the sense that not everyone can run it given you have to be fast as he is to run efficiently.  

 

[heymangold]

6 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said:

"People be so dumb" - Monmouth U represent...

He went to Temple...

[MS jets Fan]

JD should offer him a number 2 or 3 WR offer for 4 years.   WR depth in this class is deep.   JD can find a solid guy in 4th or 5th round.

[Dunnie]

Nope.  He'll be paid by some team in the range of $13M.  WR = important position.  SS = notsomuch 
 

Yeah if that team sucks and has sh*tty no nothing management

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[Biggs]

He did put advise in front of execute.  He's not as dumb as he sounds.

[Embrace the Suck]

17 hours ago, heymangold said:

He went to Temple...

Not sure why I thought he went to Monmouth. Oh well, joke's on me.

[14 in Green]

If you’re able to separate WHAT Robby says from HOW he says it, “he be pretty smart”

[Losmeister]

18 hours ago, Eaton Beaver said:

let the market establish their worth and see how it shakes out.

this

[BornJetsFan1983]

On 2/25/2020 at 11:37 AM, Mogglez said:

Also, I get what he's saying.  He doesn't choose what routes the coaches want him to run. That being said, he is a specialist at the "Go" Route (which is not the hardest route to run) and so-so on other routes.  That's not on the coaches.

Its def on the coaches. Gase did no favors to any of our WR's. Gase could call a short crossing route to Robbie more than once every 7 games and Robbie would have magically become more than a 1 trick pony. 

The off was completely mismanaged and our talent abused by Gase this past season. It was 100 on the coaches. 

Im not fan or Robby but is not wrong here. Your add in here about well he just isnt as good on othe routes is BS. he isnt a good WR but there are plenty of player like him that far excel him on the field because the coaches dont call dumb ass plays. 

Again I hate Robbie and anyone can see he is trash, but every other HC in the league would ahve got more out of him every single game that Gase and his dumb ass play calls.

[genot]

43 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Its def on the coaches. Gase did no favors to any of our WR's. Gase could call a short crossing route to Robbie more than once every 7 games and Robbie would have magically become more than a 1 trick pony. 

The off was completely mismanaged and our talent abused by Gase this past season. It was 100 on the coaches. 

Im not fan or Robby but is not wrong here. Your add in here about well he just isnt as good on othe routes is BS. he isnt a good WR but there are plenty of player like him that far excel him on the field because the coaches dont call dumb ass plays. 

Again I hate Robbie and anyone can see he is trash, but every other HC in the league would ahve got more out of him every single game that Gase and his dumb ass play calls.

You have issues, dude.

[Mogglez]

1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Its def on the coaches. Gase did no favors to any of our WR's. Gase could call a short crossing route to Robbie more than once every 7 games and Robbie would have magically become more than a 1 trick pony. 

The off was completely mismanaged and our talent abused by Gase this past season. It was 100 on the coaches. 

Im not fan or Robby but is not wrong here. Your add in here about well he just isnt as good on othe routes is BS. he isnt a good WR but there are plenty of player like him that far excel him on the field because the coaches dont call dumb ass plays. 

Again I hate Robbie and anyone can see he is trash, but every other HC in the league would ahve got more out of him every single game that Gase and his dumb ass play calls.

Robby ran more crossers this year than ever before.

Robby is coming off his best year since Morton was here.

Robby praised Gase for his development this season in a previous tweet.

Dude rounds off his routes and couldn't beat physical press coverage if his life depended on it.  His numbers suggest that he's a fringe #1 WR, more suited for a firm #2 role.  He's a one trick pony that lights up the highlight reels 1 week, then disappears the next.  What more can you get out of a WR with all of those other "wonderful" traits that has a 55% catch rate? 

It ain't the coaches.

[BornJetsFan1983]

38 minutes ago, genot said:

You have issues, dude.

ok i guess...if by issues you mena I dont pretend robbie is anything more than he is or has played as. yeah I have issues.

[BornJetsFan1983]

8 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Robby ran more crossers this year than ever before.

Robby is coming off his best year since Morton was here.

Robby praised Gase for his development this season in a previous tweet.

But go off I guess.

did you watch him play? he ran more than ever before - great! but it didn't amount to much with the game plans and him half assing it all year.

Dude Robbie would have had more TD's yards etc if Gase simply designed some plays to help him. Even with his bad hands he should have produced more, but the offense held the team including him back - you argue against this?

good grief well if he praised him in a tweet hallelujah! lol so what. The man is hoping to get overpaid beyond what his talent deserved, Im sure he is talking gase up as really turning things around in NY, and how really it wasn't his fault the off sucked, even though gase orchestrated the whole thing.

I just call them as they are. Robby isnt that good man.

 

[Mogglez]

6 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

did you watch him play? he ran more than ever before - great! but it didn't amount to much with the game plans and him half assing it all year.

Dude Robbie would have had more TD's yards etc if Gase simply designed some plays to help him. Even with his bad hands he should have produced more, but the offense held the team including him back - you argue against this?

good grief well if he praised him in a tweet hallelujah! lol so what. The man is hoping to get overpaid beyond what his talent deserved, Im sure he is talking gase up as really turning things around in NY, and how really it wasn't his fault the off sucked, even though gase orchestrated the whole thing.

I just call them as they are. Robby isnt that good man.

 

I'm literally agreeing with you about Robby, and I have said numerous times that I don't want to pay him big money.

I just disagree with the notion that Gase's playcalls are the reason why Robby has never hit 1000+ yards, sucks at running routes, and has a 55% catch rate when league AVERAGE is ~60%.  Gase's offense had Robby playing his "best" ball since 2017.  His own faults as a player are why that wasn't really that impressive.

[genot]

16 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

ok i guess...if by issues you mena I dont pretend robbie is anything more than he is or has played as. yeah I have issues.

You think he's trash. You talk like he's a $20 street whore.

[14 in Green]

1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Its def on the coaches. Gase did no favors to any of our WR's. Gase could call a short crossing route to Robbie more than once every 7 games and Robbie would have magically become more than a 1 trick pony. 

The off was completely mismanaged and our talent abused by Gase this past season. It was 100 on the coaches. 

Im not fan or Robby but is not wrong here. Your add in here about well he just isnt as good on othe routes is BS. he isnt a good WR but there are plenty of player like him that far excel him on the field because the coaches dont call dumb ass plays. 

Again I hate Robbie and anyone can see he is trash, but every other HC in the league would ahve got more out of him every single game that Gase and his dumb ass play calls.

^^^^^ Took the same English class as Robby...

[genot]

15 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

I'm literally agreeing with you about Robby, and I have said numerous times that I don't want to pay him big money.

I just disagree with the notion that Gase's playcalls are the reason why Robby has never hit 1000+ yards, sucks at running routes, and has a 55% catch rate when league AVERAGE is ~60%.  Gase's offense had Robby playing his "best" ball since 2017.  His own faults as a player are why that wasn't really that impressive.

If Anderson had played for the Eagles the last three years, he would have had 1,000 yds every year. He's everything they had hoped Agholor would be, who they drafted in the 1st rd.

[14 in Green]

30 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

ok i guess...if by issues you mena I dont pretend robbie is anything more than he is or has played as. yeah I have issues.

[choon328]

2 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Its def on the coaches. Gase did no favors to any of our WR's. Gase could call a short crossing route to Robbie more than once every 7 games and Robbie would have magically become more than a 1 trick pony. 

The off was completely mismanaged and our talent abused by Gase this past season. It was 100 on the coaches. 

Im not fan or Robby but is not wrong here. Your add in here about well he just isnt as good on othe routes is BS. he isnt a good WR but there are plenty of player like him that far excel him on the field because the coaches dont call dumb ass plays. 

Again I hate Robbie and anyone can see he is trash, but every other HC in the league would ahve got more out of him every single game that Gase and his dumb ass play calls.

Crossing routes are for YAC guys. Robby is literally the opposite of that.  That's why he didn't run many, it's also why they never threw screens to him.  He just can not make people miss in the open field and that is why he's so limited as a WR. Robby would be DeSean Jackson if he had any ability to shed a tackle or make a defender miss in the open field.  Then he'd be worth $15 million. Instead he's good at running in a straight line and high pointing the ball and that's about it. 

[MindOverMatter]

2 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Its def on the coaches. Gase did no favors to any of our WR's. Gase could call a short crossing route to Robbie more than once every 7 games and Robbie would have magically become more than a 1 trick pony. 

The off was completely mismanaged and our talent abused by Gase this past season. It was 100 on the coaches. 

Im not fan or Robby but is not wrong here. Your add in here about well he just isnt as good on othe routes is BS. he isnt a good WR but there are plenty of player like him that far excel him on the field because the coaches dont call dumb ass plays. 

Again I hate Robbie and anyone can see he is trash, but every other HC in the league would ahve got more out of him every single game that Gase and his dumb ass play calls.

This feels like i'm trying to decipher some kind of code

[MindOverMatter]

Jets are in a tough spot because Anderson more than likely is not worth $15 mil a year, even with the cap going up, but he presents the only speed on offense that defenses have to worry about.

You take that away and guys like Crowder, Thomas, and the TE's are getting clamped down hard since they don't threaten the defense vertically (hopefully Herndon turns out to be part of the solution). So it essentially boils down to spending capspace or high draft picks to replace Anderson. Mac once again whiffed by giving Enunwa that contract.

[Mogglez]

28 minutes ago, genot said:

If Anderson had played for the Eagles the last three years, he would have had 1,000 yds every year. He's everything they had hoped Agholor would be, who they drafted in the 1st rd.

Maybe, maybe not.  Putting him on the Eagles wouldn't change his work ethic when things aren't going his way, and his route running wouldn't have been any different.  His catch rate is his catch rate.  That probably stays the same too.  Remember, Robby has been dogged by two coaches now for giving up when things aren't going his way, and it's been noticeable, even as a fan. 

His flaws are his own to take responsibility for.

[peekskill68]

You get Robby at a reasonable deal and combine him with Crowder, Herndon, Griffin, Bell and a guy like Pittman in Round 3, that's a decent group that allows JD to rebuild the OL in Rounds 1/2...  

[genot]

8 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Maybe, maybe not.  Putting him on the Eagles wouldn't change his work ethic when things aren't going his way, and his route running wouldn't have been any different.  His catch rate is his catch rate.  That probably stays the same too.  Remember, Robby has been dogged by two coaches now for giving up when things aren't going his way, and it's been noticeable, even as a fan. 

His flaws are his own to take responsibility for.

If he didn't have a good work ethic, he never would have gone back to Temple, after being released for academics. i never heard him complain once about not getting enough passes thrown his way. I've heard multiple commentators talking about Robby being open, and the QB didn't have the time, or was too flustered to see him, and get him the ball

[Mogglez]

1 hour ago, genot said:

If he didn't have a good work ethic, he never would have gone back to Temple, after being released for academics. i never heard him complain once about not getting enough passes thrown his way. I've heard multiple commentators talking about Robby being open, and the QB didn't have the time, or was too flustered to see him, and get him the ball

It took me less than 5 minutes to find these, mostly in relation to the Jacksonville game, one of the more notorious examples of his lazy work ethic.  There were many more where that came from. Also, plenty of players are still lazy malcontents when things don't go their way, despite going to and finishing school. 

[choon328]

11 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

It took me less than 5 minutes to find these, mostly in relation to the Jacksonville game, one of the more notorious examples of his lazy work ethic.  There were many more where that came from. Also, plenty of players are still lazy malcontents when things don't go their way, despite going to and finishing school. 

Lol,  you'll never get through to the Anderson brigade.  Facts, statistics and film mean nothing to them.  He's great and it's everyone elses fault why his production doesn't match his "alleged" talent level that they think he possesses. I literally had one of them tell me that Anderson is a better deep ball receiver than Randy Moss. It's utterly ridiculous. 

[Mogglez]

6 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Lol,  you'll never get through to the Anderson brigade.  Facts, statistics and film mean nothing to them.  He's great and it's everyone elses fault why his production doesn't match his "alleged" talent level that they think he possesses. I literally had one of them tell me that Anderson is a better deep ball receiver than Randy Moss. It's utterly ridiculous. 

The Twitter and Reddit section of this fanbase are the worst when it comes to Robby.  Dude could drop his pants mid play and take a sh*t on the field and they would just find a way to deflect the blame on someone else because he says funny/goofy things on social media and runs really fast.

Giving him money, with all these attitude problems, poor route running, and so-so hands, is incredibly risky

[jgb]

9 hours ago, Mogglez said:

The Twitter and Reddit section of this fanbase are the worst when it comes to Robby.  Dude could drop his pants mid play and take a sh*t on the field and they would just find a way to deflect the blame on someone else because he says funny/goofy things on social media and runs really fast.

Giving him money, with all these attitude problems, poor route running, and so-so hands, is incredibly risky

I'm worried that super rich Robbie will be a lot more out of control off the field than rich Robbie.