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Are the Jets better off trading up for the OT they really want or sign one in FA for big money?


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If the Jets can trade up a few spots and grab the best OT in the draft in their eyes I would prefer that over spending big money on a second contract tackle. Sure trading up a few spots is probably gonna cost us a 3rd but we would be getting an immediate starter on a reasonable contract for the next 5 years. Theres a good chance that if we wait till the 11th pick we will be getting the 4th rated tackle on our board. The top tackle is gonna be an all pro and will anchor our line for years to come. The 4th best tackle - well he should start for us but will be a big drop off from the best OT in this draft. If we go the free agency route and overpay for a top tackle it will make our draft easier but then we are spending big money on a player that might ease up once he gets his big payday. I like the trading up in the draft route if the option becomes available which a good GM should have already scoped out over paying a ton for a free agent tackle. I want the best OT available on a rookie contract for the next 5 seasons!

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Depends on how much they would have to give up. If it's using the 2nd 3 rounder to move up ahead of Cleveland and grabbing Wirfs or Thomas, then maybe I'd consider it. But I think Douglas will let you board fall to him.

Would love to sign Conklin, even if it takes a huge deal, but the competetion to sign him will be fierce. 

Ideally, one of Becton, Wirfs, Wills, or Thomas is there @ 11, and the Jets sign at least 2 of the following

Conklin, Glasgow, Vaitai, Thuney, or another G or T that somehow breaks free

Resign Beachum, Lewis, and Shell and use the 2nd-5th round picks on WR, G, RB, and CB

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25 minutes ago, MindOverMatter said:

Depends on how much they would have to give up. If it's using the 2nd 3 rounder to move up ahead of Cleveland and grabbing Wirfs or Thomas, then maybe I'd consider it. But I think Douglas will let you board fall to him.

Would love to sign Conklin, even if it takes a huge deal, but the competetion to sign him will be fierce. 

Ideally, one of Becton, Wirfs, Wills, or Thomas is there @ 11, and the Jets sign at least 2 of the following

Conklin, Glasgow, Vaitai, Thuney, or another G or T that somehow breaks free

Resign Beachum, Lewis, and Shell and use the 2nd-5th round picks on WR, G, RB, and CB

I‘D do something similar. Would definitely not trade up. We need 2 tackles, a guard and a center. Sign 2, draft 2. Don’t see Shell coming back. Wouldn’t need him. Cut Winters as well. Could see keeping Beachum another year for depth. 

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1 hour ago, Nixhead said:

If the Jets can trade up a few spots and grab the best OT in the draft in their eyes I would prefer that over spending big money on a second contract tackle. Sure trading up a few spots is probably gonna cost us a 3rd but we would be getting an immediate starter on a reasonable contract for the next 5 years. Theres a good chance that if we wait till the 11th pick we will be getting the 4th rated tackle on our board. The top tackle is gonna be an all pro

I stopped here.

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imo i wouldn't want them to trade up for a tackle from where they are.  sure there's a better chance of getting a top flight tackle as you move up through the rounds but at 11 there should still be some really decent players.  and it's not like they only need a tackle.  at 11 the top guard in the country might be available and, of course, they still need a decent wr.  i think teams get too wound up about getting players at the right point in the draft.  as many have said, why draft adams when mahomes was sitting there for the taking.  and mac's drafting of leo and qwill are clear examples of drafting the right players (bpa) at the draft position but maybe not the right players for the team.

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I think it is on the table but my guess is that you are going to have to see how things fall out the first couple of picks (say 1 thru 7) and then make a decision.

Just looking at Daniel Jeremiah mock 2.0 trading up would be on the able since he thinks 4 of the first 10 picks could be tackles. Again though that is just one guy's mock.

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How bout neither.

You ALWAYS overpay when you sign a free agent offensive lineman. If that was the last remaining piece on a roster on the verge on championship contention, I do it. When you've got a roster full of holes, you need ton allocate your resources better.

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This team is a good OL and a WR or two from being playoff competitive NOW.  This draft has broken perfectly for the Jets as their two largest areas of need are at the 2 deepest positions in the draft.  They can aggressively address these needs in the first 3 rounds of the draft and come away with quality, 1st day starters with all 4 of their picks if they choose wisely.  Signing a quality OL via free agency would be be icing on the cake.

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12 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said:

This team is a good OL and a WR or two from being playoff competitive NOW.  This draft has broken perfectly for the Jets as their two largest areas of need are at the 2 deepest positions in the draft.  They can aggressively address these needs in the first 3 rounds of the draft and come away with quality, 1st day starters with all 4 of their picks if they choose wisely.  Signing a quality OL via free agency would be be icing on the cake.

The key to the draft is Andrew Thomas.  JD needs to really drill into him.  Would he be worth the 11th pick if he is there?

At this point I have become superficial and really value how these players look and move.  Andrew Thomas is not wowing me with his appearance and combine performance.  

The Jets need a better roster by May.  That will involve FAs and the draft.  As long as they up better by May, it does not matter where a position comes from.

So, based on what I see, and the fact that we pick 11, I can see picks 1 and 2 being CB and WR (or vice versa), and signing 2 Ts in FA, and then looking at the 3rd round for G or C.  A FA C can also work.  

Honestly, at 11 the draft appears to be serving up a first round CB (save the money from Bradbury/Jones) and second round WR. 

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27 minutes ago, varjet said:

The key to the draft is Andrew Thomas.  JD needs to really drill into him.  Would he be worth the 11th pick if he is there?

At this point I have become superficial and really value how these players look and move.  Andrew Thomas is not wowing me with his appearance and combine performance.  

The Jets need a better roster by May.  That will involve FAs and the draft.  As long as they up better by May, it does not matter where a position comes from.

So, based on what I see, and the fact that we pick 11, I can see picks 1 and 2 being CB and WR (or vice versa), and signing 2 Ts in FA, and then looking at the 3rd round for G or C.  A FA C can also work.  

Honestly, at 11 the draft appears to be serving up a first round CB (save the money from Bradbury/Jones) and second round WR. 

This is an offense driven, QB league.  The Jets have their QB, and now they have a golden opportunity to protect him AND get him some weapons in a draft as deep as it's ever been at OL and WR.  They cannot, under any circumstances, take a CB or any defensive player at 11.  

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15 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

I‘D do something similar. Would definitely not trade up. We need 2 tackles, a guard and a center. Sign 2, draft 2. Don’t see Shell coming back. Wouldn’t need him. Cut Winters as well. Could see keeping Beachum another year for depth. 

You do understand that “keeping Beachum another year for depth “. Would cost at least 10 mil a year for multi years right?   He is not signing for one year for peanuts. He is a middle of the road LT and will get paid like it. 

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1 hour ago, varjet said:

The key to the draft is Andrew Thomas.  JD needs to really drill into him.  Would he be worth the 11th pick if he is there?

At this point I have become superficial and really value how these players look and move.  Andrew Thomas is not wowing me with his appearance and combine performance.  

The Jets need a better roster by May.  That will involve FAs and the draft.  As long as they up better by May, it does not matter where a position comes from.

So, based on what I see, and the fact that we pick 11, I can see picks 1 and 2 being CB and WR (or vice versa), and signing 2 Ts in FA, and then looking at the 3rd round for G or C.  A FA C can also work.  

Honestly, at 11 the draft appears to be serving up a first round CB (save the money from Bradbury/Jones) and second round WR. 

 

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2 hours ago, varjet said:

The key to the draft is Andrew Thomas.  JD needs to really drill into him.  Would he be worth the 11th pick if he is there?

At this point I have become superficial and really value how these players look and move.  Andrew Thomas is not wowing me with his appearance and combine performance.  

The Jets need a better roster by May.  That will involve FAs and the draft.  As long as they up better by May, it does not matter where a position comes from.

So, based on what I see, and the fact that we pick 11, I can see picks 1 and 2 being CB and WR (or vice versa), and signing 2 Ts in FA, and then looking at the 3rd round for G or C.  A FA C can also work.  

Honestly, at 11 the draft appears to be serving up a first round CB (save the money from Bradbury/Jones) and second round WR. 

Thomas gave up three sacks as a sophomore and only nine total pressures his junior year.

I think he’ll be fine. 

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16 hours ago, Nixhead said:

If the Jets can trade up a few spots and grab the best OT in the draft in their eyes I would prefer that over spending big money on a second contract tackle. Sure trading up a few spots is probably gonna cost us a 3rd but we would be getting an immediate starter on a reasonable contract for the next 5 years. Theres a good chance that if we wait till the 11th pick we will be getting the 4th rated tackle on our board. The top tackle is gonna be an all pro and will anchor our line for years to come. The 4th best tackle - well he should start for us but will be a big drop off from the best OT in this draft. If we go the free agency route and overpay for a top tackle it will make our draft easier but then we are spending big money on a player that might ease up once he gets his big payday. I like the trading up in the draft route if the option becomes available which a good GM should have already scoped out over paying a ton for a free agent tackle. I want the best OT available on a rookie contract for the next 5 seasons!

we had a trade up thread , waht?, yesterday?

phukkno!

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53 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said:

You do understand that “keeping Beachum another year for depth “. Would cost at least 10 mil a year for multi years right?   He is not signing for one year for peanuts. He is a middle of the road LT and will get paid like it. 

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On 3/2/2020 at 10:52 PM, Wonderboy said:

I‘D do something similar. Would definitely not trade up. We need 2 tackles, a guard and a center. Sign 2, draft 2. Don’t see Shell coming back. Wouldn’t need him. Cut Winters as well. Could see keeping Beachum another year for depth. 

They can get by with drafting a single Tackle and a single interior lineman.  Beachum is not stud material, but he is good enough for now.  If they draft a center in the later rounds, Harrison can play guard and they can go with one of their other current interior lineman.  If they don't draft a specialist for center, keep Harrson there and use their new interior guy to play guard.

They can really be OK if they just add two starters.  It wont be the best line, but it will be better and it will be "building through the draft" and not pissing away all sorts of money and cap room on retreads.

This ALL depends on Thomas or Wills or Wirfs still being on the board at 11.  If not, they are totally screwed.  

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8 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

They can get by with drafting a single Tackle and a single interior lineman.  Beachum is not stud material, but he is good enough for now.  If they draft a center in the later rounds, Harrison can play guard and they can go with one of their other current interior lineman.  If they don't draft a specialist for center, keep Harrson there and use their new interior guy to play guard.

They can really be OK if they just add two starters.  It wont be the best line, but it will be better and it will be "building through the draft" and not pissing away all sorts of money and cap room on retreads.

This ALL depends on Thomas or Wills or Wirfs still being on the board at 11.  If not, they are totally screwed.  

It’s a deep draft for OL. JD can get quality OL prospects in rd 1,2,3,4.  And of course, FA. There’s a few options. Every team spends. It’s just a matter of hitting on it. And Becton is in the conversation in the top 4 OL. No reason if 1 of the 4 isn’t there JD sprints to podium to get us a T. 

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5 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

It’s a deep draft for OL. JD can get quality OL prospects in rd 1,2,3,4.  And of course, FA. There’s a few options. Every team spends. It’s just a matter of hitting on it. And Becton is in the conversation in the top 4 OL. No reason if 1 of the 4 isn’t there JD sprints to podium to get us a T. 

Beckton worries me.  I HOPE he is taken before 11.  He may turn out to be the best T since Anthony Munoz, but he may be a flop.  If you already have decent tackles, he would be a great choice do to the upside.  If you are the Jets and REALLY need manpower now, Beckton is too much of a chance.  He may wind up being the next Vlad Ducasse.  It is really a crap shoot

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7 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

Beckton worries me.  I HOPE he is taken before 11.  He may turn out to be the best T since Anthony Munoz, but he may be a flop.  If you already have decent tackles, he would be a great choice do to the upside.  If you are the Jets and REALLY need manpower now, Beckton is too much of a chance.  He may wind up being the next Vlad Ducasse.  It is really a crap shoot

He’s athletic and a beast. I think he’ll be fine.

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