Popular Post David Harris Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Smart man 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Certainly fair and reasonable, but it just puts more pressure on the scouting/draft this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post section314 Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 Best interview Chris Johnson has given in his new role.? 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 The roster, particularly on offense has to see a major upgrade. At this point I haven’t seen that. Not sure how disciplined it is to give $9mm a year to a backup tackle. More importantly, he wasn’t hired for discipline. He was hired to make the roster better. Hope he can do better. 6 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Certainly fair and reasonable, but it just puts more pressure on the scouting/draft this year. It's a process 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: It's a process 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 cereal box sh*t No one's debating we aren't chasing a Lombardi this year, and thus, we have to get some mileage out of our cap... but bro... cmon... At some point, we have to actually add some talent to the fcking roster... McGovern isn't going to be do on his own. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grandy Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 I know this fan base might've wanted more, but I can't remember a great team that was built through throwing money at FA's. Great teams build through the draft, and sign guys who are fits for the team not just talented players. Most of those contracts blew up in our face anyway. Personally I'm indifferent on JD, but give him a break. When has overpaying on FA's ever worked for us? This fan base needs to realize that we're not a Conklin away from contending, this will take time and runs through the draft first. 12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ScarletKnight89 Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 As long as he builds an O-Line and finds pass rushers i'm on board. He's right about building the core. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Idzik redux 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Augustiniak Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 The main point here is that they are not 1 or 2 players away where they can burn a lot of $$ on these guys. They need some quality, reasonably priced guys in FA right now. The draft is where they’re going to add the real talent, hopefully. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, section314 said: Best interview Chris Johnson has given in his new role.? It really sounds like him, and the fact that he referenced the Maccagnan spending spree six years ago leads you to believe it’s someone who’s been around for awhile. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post docdhc Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: The roster, particularly on offense has to see a major upgrade. At this point I haven’t seen that. Not sure how disciplined it is to give $9mm a year to a backup tackle. More importantly, he wasn’t hired for discipline. He was hired to make the roster better. Hope he can do better. I think the point is that overpaying on the first day for one or two big name pieces won’t work without a core roster to begin with. It won’t be a quick fix, that’s where the discipline comes in. Certainly we won’t know for a year or 2 if he’s making the right choices, especially with the draft, but it does seem like the right approach. I like it much better than the way we’ve gone about things over the last 2 gm’s. 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandy said: I know this fan base might've wanted more, but I can't remember a great team that was built through throwing money at FA's. Great teams build through the draft, and sign guys who are fits for the team not just talented players. Most of those contracts blew up in our face anyway. Correction: great teams draft well. Big money in FA is the Hail Mary if you draft like garbage. But a Hail Mary has a better chance of succeeding than doing nothing when your roster stinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 "We tried to make a splash but failed" is not an excuse for failing. We finally have a decent center and that's great. We are sitting on the worst CB depth chart in the league and are somehow thinner at EDGE than we were last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The roster, particularly on offense has to see a major upgrade. At this point I haven’t seen that. Not sure how disciplined it is to give $9mm a year to a backup tackle. More importantly, he wasn’t hired for discipline. He was hired to make the roster better. Hope he can do better. Discipline can make the roster better.We just cut a guy today who is a perfect example of that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It really sounds like him, and the fact that he referenced the Maccagnan spending spree six years ago leads you to believe it’s someone who’s been around for awhile. My guess Mogglez, who has since gone to the dark side? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chrebetfan80 Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 We all wanted more answers, and to take a bigger step in FA so that a good draft was just icing on the cake. I know a lot of fans wanted this team to be more complete going into next season with the hopes that by 2021 we'd be adding a few pieces on a really good team. Facts are this team is multiple years away. Probably 2 maybe 3 depending on how well we draft and future signings. The issue now is that the jets dont have a ton of lexibility cap wise because the old GM was allowed to go on a wild spending spree. We're clearing Tru off the cap but still have huge deals for Mosely and Bell. Mosely I think will end up being a very big piece of this team and while he was overpaid he'll perform i believe. Bell will be better but paying any RB that much money at this point is a mistake now a days. JD is in the process of building a young core that can competently compete for years. Its going to take some time, and some patience. But i think so far he's done a good job not mortgaging the future flexibility of the franchise for short term gains. 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, docdhc said: I think the point is that overpaying on the first day for one or two big name pieces won’t work without a core roster to begin with. It won’t be a quick fix, that’s where the discipline comes in. Certainly we won’t know for a year or 2 if he’s making the right choices, especially with the draft, but it does seem like the right approach. I like it much better than the way we’ve gone about things over the last 2 gm’s. I get it, and don’t disagree. But I’m really just referencing the people around here that are claiming he’s doing a great job. He’s not doing a great job, he’s not doing a bad job either - but let’s not pretend that losing out on the top guy you wanted is some type of genius move. Right now, at this moment, this roster is weaker than it was before FA started. I’m sure there will still be a lot of changes and hopefully they work out. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Paradis said: cereal box sh*t No one's debating we aren't chasing a Lombardi this year, and thus, we have to get some mileage out of our cap... but bro... cmon... At some point, we have to actually add some talent to the fcking roster... McGovern isn't going to be do on his own. It’s not cereal box sh*t. It’s smart. Can’t blow your load on one or two guys and be screwed after that. Hes trying to find reliable starters that won’t bankrupt us, all while having potential. Sprinkle in good drafting and you’re good to go. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I get it, and don’t disagree. But I’m really just referencing the people around here that are claiming he’s doing a great job. He’s not doing a great job, he’s not doing a bad job either - but let’s not pretend that losing out on the top guy you wanted is some type of genius move. Right now, at this moment, this roster is weaker than it was before FA started. I’m sure there will still be a lot of changes and hopefully they work out. I see what your saying though it’s too early to grade him yet. I would quibble with the idea that the roster is worse. As bad as the OL was I’d say it’s better on paper now. Moves don’t seem genius, you’re right, but seem at least steady and following a plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, docdhc said: I see what your saying though it’s too early to grade him yet. I would quibble with the idea that the roster is worse. As bad as the OL was I’d say it’s better on paper now. Moves don’t seem genius, you’re right, but seem at least steady and following a plan. I don’t think you can fairly evaluate the roster until after the draft. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 This guy has to totally nail the draft that is the whole issue. We need a Jets 2006 draft or New Orleans 2017 draft. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, jgb said: Idzik redux It is till it isn’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: This guy has to totally nail the draft that is the whole issue. We need a Jets 2006 draft or New Orleans 2017 draft. That’s what the nfl is about, nailing the draft. Way more important than winning free agency. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The roster, particularly on offense has to see a major upgrade. At this point I haven’t seen that. Not sure how disciplined it is to give $9mm a year to a backup tackle. More importantly, he wasn’t hired for discipline. He was hired to make the roster better. Hope he can do better. People in the NFL get paid based on prior history and a projection of what a team believes they'll do. They obviously think he can start in Gase's offense which focuses more on athletic lineman, which is the opposite of what is required of linemen in Seattle. They probably believe his production will get better with the change of offensive systems. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, Paradis said: cereal box sh*t No one's debating we aren't chasing a Lombardi this year, and thus, we have to get some mileage out of our cap... but bro... cmon... At some point, we have to actually add some talent to the fcking roster... McGovern isn't going to be do on his own. Paradis, its the draft dude. THAT is where you add talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It really sounds like him, and the fact that he referenced the Maccagnan spending spree six years ago leads you to believe it’s someone who’s been around for awhile. Owner covering for another overwhelmed over promoted football guy who’s more comfortable with a stopwatch and clipboard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Big Joe actually has a plan and is working his plan. I don't know that overpaying for Fant and Alex Lewis were part of that plan though but we don't know what other teams were offering them. Now he did do great on the center and stoled Poole for a year at 5 mil so maybe he's learning on the job. I give Joe a B- so far this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: People in the NFL get paid based on prior history and a projection of what a team believes they'll do. They obviously think he can start in Gase's offense which focuses more on athletic lineman, which is the opposite of what is required of linemen in Seattle. They probably believe his production will get better with the change of offensive systems. I certainly hope that’s the case. I think it’s more likely they took a couple of swing and misses at the guys they wanted and had to over pay and move quickly to lock-in their 3rd tier guy in Fant. Even if you’re right, doesn’t mean they’re right and certainly doesn’t mean he’s disciplined. Not saying it won’t work out but, again, people are acting like he’s already some master strategist around here. He didn’t overpay the top guys but then went on to overpay the 3rd tier guy. I’m just not sure how great of a move that was. I hope it turns out to be a great move, I just don’t often see these types of reaches work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I can't get into his head, but I have a feeling that JD has big plans for the draft in terms of stockpiling picks and drafting our current and future OL. It would not shock me at all to see JD trade down for multiple picks and a player. You don't need high draft picks to build an OL. Then again, I thought Macc has a plan too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 There's a reason JD wanted a six year contract 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post K_O_Brien Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 Douglas will rise or fall on his ability to draft well. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I can't get into his head, but I have a feeling that JD has big plans for the draft in terms of stockpiling picks and drafting our current and future OL. It would not shock me at all to see JD trade down for multiple picks and a player. You don't need high draft picks to build an OL. Then again, I thought Macc has a plan too. I would love that to be the case. If you want to build through the draft with such a depleted roster you have to trade down... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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