OT: I just tested positive with COVID

[BROOKLYN JET]

6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

So in addition to eating right, sleeping well, staying hydrated and socially distant while not smoking....the other thing we should be doing is taking more Zinc?  How much?

11 MG a day is the daily recommended amount according to the RDA. I would not go over 30 MG, could to harm do the kidneys.

[David Harris]

2 hours ago, LionelRichie said:

more people die annually from Pancreatic Cancer than will die from COVID-19 yet you don't read about every person afflicted with that terrible disease.   The same is true of just about every disease.   

The best news I read today is that they seem to be having success with the Malaria treatment.   Once there is a treatment (not a vaccine) it's time to let the virus run it's course before we financially cripple our country for a generation.   At some point the cure is worse than the disease and we, as a people cannot hide inside forever.   

18 previously healthy doctors killed in Italy so far 

go volunteer in an ICU and then check back with your Joe Cool Nonchalance 

 

[CTM]

3 hours ago, TeddEY said:

This isn’t the extinction event, but it’s probably closer than anyone is comfortable admitting.

Seems like a bit of an exaggeration, no? Certainly a terribly situation , but not even in the same sport as extinction level event 

[Dcat]

3 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I must be getting old....  Thanks!!!!

"getting"? 

[jetstream23]

56 minutes ago, CTM said:

Seems like a bit of an exaggeration, no? Certainly a terribly situation , but not even in the same sport as extinction level event 

We are VERY fortunate that the mortality rate isn't higher than it is because the contagiousness of this thing seems to be off the charts.  Nothing scares infectious disease experts more than something getting into the wild like this did and having no known treatments as it spreads like wildfire.  New disease, ridiculously contagious, but lethal to a small percentage of the population.  If the characteristics of this disease were different, say that it was lethal to 25% of people under 13 years old, we'd have a full-blown panic on our hands.

[Smashmouth]

37 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

We are VERY fortunate that the mortality rate isn't higher than it is because the contagiousness of this thing seems to be off the charts.  Nothing scares infectious disease experts more than something getting into the wild like this did and having no known treatments as it spreads like wildfire.  New disease, ridiculously contagious, but lethal to a small percentage of the population.  If the characteristics of this disease were different, say that it was lethal to 25% of people under 13 years old, we'd have a full-blown panic on our hands.

Maybe their biggest concern is a mutation that could take this thing off the charts that's what scares me because you can't predict that scenario and they certainly are not talking about that very much . I wonder if thats whats going on in Italy because something seems very different there

 

1 hour ago, CTM said:

Seems like a bit of an exaggeration, no? Certainly a terribly situation , but not even in the same sport as extinction level event 

 

[MindOverMatter]

30 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

We are VERY fortunate that the mortality rate isn't higher than it is because the contagiousness of this thing seems to be off the charts.  Nothing scares infectious disease experts more than something getting into the wild like this did and having no known treatments as it spreads like wildfire.  New disease, ridiculously contagious, but lethal to a small percentage of the population.  If the characteristics of this disease were different, say that it was lethal to 25% of people under 13 years old, we'd have a full-blown panic on our hands.

Good post.

We're in mile 1 of a marathon and thing's are already looking bad. I hope people start taking this seriously, if not and people get tired of staying inside this will take awhile to pass. Mix that in with the poor regulation and response time and you have the current situation.

Half of Social Media thinks it's a hoax and many think they are invincible, it's pretty terrifying tbh. It's like working on a group project with the whole world, AKA we are probably screwed.

[RedBeardedSavage]

2 hours ago, David Harris said:

18 previously healthy doctors killed in Italy so far 

go volunteer in an ICU and then check back with your Joe Cool Nonchalance 

 

Agreed - we haven’t hit the peak here yet - read a NYT scenario that says the peak will be last week of April/first week May.
 

We’ll see in a month. I really hope we fare better than Italy, but I live downtown in a major city, sometimes I drive alone at night to get out or look off my balcony in the day, and I see too many people about. 

Getting nervous this is going to get a lot worse over the next few weeks. 

[Dunnie]

The one thing the admin has done well is to put out their 15 day guide. You can find it online. It’s simple and clear and we should all follow it. If we don’t it could be a worst case scenario. If we do many more people like us will be ok. 

Link

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[BornJetsFan1983]

7 hours ago, Dcat said:

Forget fatality rate for a second.  The number of deaths is increasing rapidly.  That's the important thing.  Every day MORE lives are lost even though the fatality rate as a % of those testing positive is decreasing.  Fatality rate doesn't change the actual number and it is increasing at a frightening pace.  I care about those lives.  This is not overblown as you are implying. 

I care about the lives as well. Just pointed out the obvious. The whole stay in homes the virus is out there is not warranted, because because of the lethality. Again flue etc kill much more. And the people  who literally  are saying to stop talking or pointing out the said obviousness of this terrible over reaction is comical but also pretty sad. They are the ones who said it was going to kill so many people, that we all have to be fearful etc. We all have access to the info, it's ok to not be scared. 

But everyone agrees this virus sucks and anyone that loses a life is tragic but there has to be some sort of common ground where not everyone acts like its Ebola or west Nile and that this needless panic stops. I thought that with the news of cure and that the completely false narrative of this virus is about to kill 100s of thousands  of people might get us there. Hopefully by Monday.

Some one smartly wrote check back in there weeks. Everything out there  supports my theory but who knows maybe the over reaction  crowd is right. I doubt it tho

[Dunnie]

I care about the lives as well. Just pointed out the obvious. The whole stay in homes the virus is out there is not warranted, because because of the lethality. Again flue etc kill much more. And the people  who literally  are saying to stop talking or pointing out the said obviousness of this terrible over reaction is comical but also pretty sad. They are the ones who said it was going to kill so many people, that we all have to be fearful etc. We all have access to the info, it's ok to not be scared.  But everyone agrees this virus sucks and anyone that loses a life is tragic but there has to be some sort of common ground where not everyone acts like its Ebola or west Nile and that this needless panic stops. I thought that with the news of cure and that the completely false narrative of this virus is about to kill 100s of thousands  of people might get us there. Hopefully by Monday. Some one smartly wrote check back in there weeks. Everything out there  supports my theory but who knows maybe the over reaction  crowd is right. I doubt it tho 

 

 

Time will tell... this virus is more contagious and has a higher mortality rate than the flu.

 

  

This might fit the profile for an extinction event were it not for the effect/hope of an accelerated cure due to technology.

 

One of my concerns is the monetization of the eventual treatment.

 

 

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[ZachEY]

6 hours ago, CTM said:

Seems like a bit of an exaggeration, no? Certainly a terribly situation , but not even in the same sport as extinction level event 

I can see how it reads that way.  I didn’t mean COVID was close to an extinction event, but that the extinction event is coming, likely sooner than anyone is willing to acknowledge.  And frankly, something like this, with a bit more bite, would get us pretty close.  COVID is certainly one roadmap.  Though there are many.

[Dunnie]

I can see how it reads that way.  I didn’t mean COVID was close to an extinction event, but that the extinction event is coming, likely sooner than anyone is willing to acknowledge.  And frankly, something like this, with a bit more bite, would get us pretty close.  COVID is certainly one roadmap.  Though there are many.

^ this ....was talking to a family member that is an evolutionary biology professor at an ivy league school ... Shared simar thoughts .... This will.be devastating ... But without technology it would have been cataclysmic.

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[Scott Dierking]

41 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I can see how it reads that way.  I didn’t mean COVID was close to an extinction event, but that the extinction event is coming, likely sooner than anyone is willing to acknowledge.  And frankly, something like this, with a bit more bite, would get us pretty close.  COVID is certainly one roadmap.  Though there are many.

A meteor hitting the planet will do the trick. Ask the dinosaurs. 

[Skeptable]

4 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I care about the lives as well. Just pointed out the obvious. The whole stay in homes the virus is out there is not warranted, because because of the lethality. Again flue etc kill much more. And the people  who literally  are saying to stop talking or pointing out the said obviousness of this terrible over reaction is comical but also pretty sad. They are the ones who said it was going to kill so many people, that we all have to be fearful etc. We all have access to the info, it's ok to not be scared. 

But everyone agrees this virus sucks and anyone that loses a life is tragic but there has to be some sort of common ground where not everyone acts like its Ebola or west Nile and that this needless panic stops. I thought that with the news of cure and that the completely false narrative of this virus is about to kill 100s of thousands  of people might get us there. Hopefully by Monday.

Some one smartly wrote check back in there weeks. Everything out there  supports my theory but who knows maybe the over reaction  crowd is right. I doubt it though

This has to be one of the most naive statements yet... Hospitals are at full capacity they are sending in the USS comfort to NYC and other navy support ships to help... Not because of the people that catch the flu... It's how fast everyone is going to get it and even if the mortality rate is 1 percent... It will be worse that if 50-70 percent of the population catch it at the same time... Its a mass influx of people to the hospitals at the same time people will die unnecessarily because they don't have staff to treat them... 

Ask a doctor or nurse... They are overwhelmed already and we are at least 3 weeks away from it peaking... So don't be a dumbass

[More Cowbell]

3 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I care about the lives as well. Just pointed out the obvious. The whole stay in homes the virus is out there is not warranted, because because of the lethality. Again flue etc kill much more. And the people  who literally  are saying to stop talking or pointing out the said obviousness of this terrible over reaction is comical but also pretty sad. They are the ones who said it was going to kill so many people, that we all have to be fearful etc. We all have access to the info, it's ok to not be scared. 

But everyone agrees this virus sucks and anyone that loses a life is tragic but there has to be some sort of common ground where not everyone acts like its Ebola or west Nile and that this needless panic stops. I thought that with the news of cure and that the completely false narrative of this virus is about to kill 100s of thousands  of people might get us there. Hopefully by Monday.

Some one smartly wrote check back in there weeks. Everything out there  supports my theory but who knows maybe the over reaction  crowd is right. I doubt it tho

What is wrong with you? My life has been tirned upside down because of this. My girlfriend has chronic Lyme disease which compromised  her immune system so she is scared to go outside and walks around with gloves on. I just spent $20 on 2 N95 masks that use to cost 80 cents, my office has been closed and i work on straight commission. Im not allowed to do my job because it entails direct human contact so for about a month I won't  have income and you think this is the same as normal flu?

Ebola didn't  even cause what is happening  here now

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, TeddEY said:

I can see how it reads that way.  I didn’t mean COVID was close to an extinction event, but that the extinction event is coming, likely sooner than anyone is willing to acknowledge.  And frankly, something like this, with a bit more bite, would get us pretty close.  COVID is certainly one roadmap.  Though there are many.

Wow, I thought talking with you Would make  me feel better? 

[Anthony Jet]

Panic and hysteria is not helping at all. The media fanning the flames is an absolute killer. For a week starlight they showed empty super market shelves. So everyone rushed to the super market to buy 5 years worth of toilet paper. And now anyone with any flu symptoms think they’re gonna die, some using up valuable medical resources for people who truly have a chance to die. Fortunately the vast majority will beat the bug, with nothing but time. Everyone needs to step back and relax a little and follow the plan set forth. If the plan is to shut it all down. Then just do it already. If they did it last Sunday when it was first spoke about us NYC people would be a week in and in no worse economic standing. 

[ZachEY]

51 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

A meteor hitting the planet will do the trick. Ask the dinosaurs. 

Yes.  We also have 14K meteors on this planet, plus the ability to develop significantly worse biological agents than this.

[ZachEY]

25 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

What is wrong with you? My life has been tirned upside down because of this. My girlfriend has chronic Lyme disease which compromised  her immune system so she is scared to go outside and walks around with gloves on. I just spent $20 on 2 N95 masks that use to cost 80 cents, my office has been closed and i work on straight commission. Im not allowed to do my job because it entails direct human contact so for about a month I won't  have income and you think this is the same as normal flu?

Ebola didn't  even cause what is happening  here now

Good luck to you and your family.

[T0mShane]

6 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Maybe their biggest concern is a mutation that could take this thing off the charts that's what scares me because you can't predict that scenario and they certainly are not talking about that very much . I wonder if thats whats going on in Italy because something seems very different there

 

 

This is my suspicion too. I get taking it seriously and overreacting to the current situation by shutting the country down, but I can’t reconcile the fact that very wealthy people are willingly losing billions and trillions of dollars and it makes you wonder what they know up top. I mean, conservatives in Washington are debating with each other over *how big* the checks should be that they send to Americans. When they go full socialist (even as a cynical ploy in an election year) you know that sh*t is hitting the fan and there’s more bad news coming down the pike 

[T0mShane]

8 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

Panic and hysteria is not helping at all. The media fanning the flames is an absolute killer. For a week starlight they showed empty super market shelves. So everyone rushed to the super market to buy 5 years worth of toilet paper. And now anyone with any flu symptoms think they’re gonna die, some using up valuable medical resources for people who truly have a chance to die. Fortunately the vast majority will beat the bug, with nothing but time. Everyone needs to step back and relax a little and follow the plan set forth. If the plan is to shut it all down. Then just do it already. If they did it last Sunday when it was first spoke about us NYC people would be a week in and in no worse economic standing. 

I think people are panicked because the actual plan is to shut everything down. The media isn’t shutting everything down. The people who allegedly have the actual information on the virus are shutting everything down. 

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

A meteor hitting the planet will do the trick. Ask the dinosaurs. 

Me when the meteor comes 

[JustInFudge]

Dang, just checked to see how my boy and his family are doing only to learn this is the end of human population.  heavy 

 

[Anthony Jet]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think people are panicked because the actual plan is to shut everything down. The media isn’t shutting everything down. The people who allegedly have the actual information on the virus are shutting everything down. 

I can see that but before the shut down was even a thought the super market shelves were empty. People were driving cross state lines to stack up on antibacterials. How many cans of Lysol does one house need? Seriously speaking. People hoard and panic and make it worse. 

[MindOverMatter]

4 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I care about the lives as well. Just pointed out the obvious. The whole stay in homes the virus is out there is not warranted, because because of the lethality. Again flue etc kill much more. And the people  who literally  are saying to stop talking or pointing out the said obviousness of this terrible over reaction is comical but also pretty sad. They are the ones who said it was going to kill so many people, that we all have to be fearful etc. We all have access to the info, it's ok to not be scared. 

But everyone agrees this virus sucks and anyone that loses a life is tragic but there has to be some sort of common ground where not everyone acts like its Ebola or west Nile and that this needless panic stops. I thought that with the news of cure and that the completely false narrative of this virus is about to kill 100s of thousands  of people might get us there. Hopefully by Monday.

Some one smartly wrote check back in there weeks. Everything out there  supports my theory but who knows maybe the over reaction  crowd is right. I doubt it tho

You don't get it. It took ebola months to get the same amount of cases that popped up in a couple of weeks with Covid-19. Please start listening to people who have studied this field their entire lives...not the politicions, your neighbors, or whatever you read on FaceBook.

[Scott Dierking]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

Dang, just checked to see how my boy and his family are doing only to learn this is the end of human population.  heavy 

 

Full on Y2K

[BroadwayJoe12]

So I am no longer operating, albeit for the emergency case once or twice a week. Now, even as a surgical resident I primarily work in a 22 bed unit that is only COVID+ patients. I can tell you, I am used to working 100+ hour weeks, 12 days on, 2 off for half a decade: I have never been more stressed out in my entire life. These patients are sick. They decompensate quickly. Have zero reserve. That video of the Italian ICU is calm, compared to the sh*tstorm that I have seen the last two weeks. Running out of mechanical ventilators is a real issue. Running out of proper protective equipment is a real issue. 
 

I’m too tired to say anything more than stay the f*ck home. Anyone downplaying this doesn’t understand that if we reach critical mass, which we will, without blunting the curve, tens of thousands will die simply because of lack of resources. And that’s not to count the thousands of patients who are being sent home with other non-COVID critical illnesses because everyone’s focus is on COVID. If you’re downplaying it, come spend half a day with us.

 

 

 

(also just an aside, viruses when they mutate tend to become less virulent, not more. Not always, but that’s historically how things have gone. Plus, even if you’ve had it or the eventual vaccine, you’ll confer a level of immunity to the newer potentially more virulent one. It’s why the flu vaccine is so damned important). I’ll chime in more with updates and when I’m done passing out. Everyone please, stay Home, stay safe, be smart. 

[JustEndTheSuffering]

1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

A meteor hitting the planet will do the trick. Ask the dinosaurs. 

Wouldn’t we have the ability to destroy a meteor before it got here though?

[Skeptable]

8 minutes ago, MindOverMatter said:

You don't get it. It took ebola months to get the same amount of cases that popped up in a couple of weeks with Covid-19. Please start listening to people who have studied this field their entire lives...not the politicions, your neighbors, or whatever you read on FaceBook.

Some people on here don't actually talk to people that are actually dealing with the crisis... It's simple... Talk to a nurse or doctor if this is overblown or not. They will tell you the truth... Not what politicians or media say... Stop relying on their interpretations of what they think the reality is... Or some person in the middle of Wyoming that has 100 people in their town. 

[Scott Dierking]

1 minute ago, BroadwayJoe12 said:

So I am no longer operating, albeit for the emergency case once or twice a week. Now, even as a surgical resident I primarily work in a 22 bed unit that is only COVID+ patients. I can tell you, I am used to working 100+ hour weeks, 12 days on, 2 off for half a decade: I have never been more stressed out in my entire life. These patients are sick. They decompensate quickly. Have zero reserve. That video of the Italian ICU is calm, compared to the sh*tstorm that I have seen the last two weeks. Running out of mechanical ventilators is a real issue. Running out of proper protective equipment is a real issue. 
 

I’m too tired to say anything more than stay the f*ck home. Anyone downplaying this doesn’t understand that if we reach critical mass, which we will, without blunting the curve, tens of thousands will die simply because of lack of resources. And that’s not to count the thousands of patients who are being sent home with other non-COVID critical illnesses because everyone’s focus is on COVID. If you’re downplaying it, come spend half a day with us.

 

 

 

(also just an aside, viruses when they mutate tend to become less virulent, not more. Not always, but that’s historically how things have gone. Plus, even if you’ve had it or the eventual vaccine, you’ll confer a level of immunity to the newer potentially more virulent one. It’s why the flu vaccine is so damned important). I’ll chime in more with updates and when I’m done passing out. Everyone please, stay Home, stay safe, be smart. 

Bless you and your team(s). They are our literal lifeline at this point. 

[Anthony Jet]

2 minutes ago, BroadwayJoe12 said:

So I am no longer operating, albeit for the emergency case once or twice a week. Now, even as a surgical resident I primarily work in a 22 bed unit that is only COVID+ patients. I can tell you, I am used to working 100+ hour weeks, 12 days on, 2 off for half a decade: I have never been more stressed out in my entire life. These patients are sick. They decompensate quickly. Have zero reserve. That video of the Italian ICU is calm, compared to the sh*tstorm that I have seen the last two weeks. Running out of mechanical ventilators is a real issue. Running out of proper protective equipment is a real issue. 
 

I’m too tired to say anything more than stay the f*ck home. Anyone downplaying this doesn’t understand that if we reach critical mass, which we will, without blunting the curve, tens of thousands will die simply because of lack of resources. And that’s not to count the thousands of patients who are being sent home with other non-COVID critical illnesses because everyone’s focus is on COVID. If you’re downplaying it, come spend half a day with us.

 

 

 

(also just an aside, viruses when they mutate tend to become less virulent, not more. Not always, but that’s historically how things have gone. Plus, even if you’ve had it or the eventual vaccine, you’ll confer a level of immunity to the newer potentially more virulent one. It’s why the flu vaccine is so damned important). I’ll chime in more with updates and when I’m done passing out. Everyone please, stay Home, stay safe, be smart. 

First off thank you 

if you don’t mind me asking when can self isolation stop, I’m not talking going out but I mean leaving the room? I’ve read 3 days fever free, I was always told with my kids there not contagious anymore after 24 hours fever free, are there any guide lines to when it’s ok ?

[CTM]

 

34 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think people are panicked because the actual plan is to shut everything down. The media isn’t shutting everything down. The people who allegedly have the actual information on the virus are shutting everything down. 

We'll find out today I guess, every rumor I've heard revolves around notice today. 

The other issue is failing supply chains, my market hasn't had organic spinach and kale in over a week. Out of curiosity I asked the grocery manager, he said that they order it but it doesn't arrive, so I asked him why and he said the mfr's are having problems getting people to pick it. Since then ,we've shut down the border at a time when a lot of people come north for the harvest, we can see these types of problems extend into other categories rapidly.

Much of our supply chain operates in a JIT model, as inventory laying around isn't an efficient use of capital. It's highly suspetible to production shortages. That's why i bought a ton of caloricly dense non perishables a month ago. If social distancing + warm weather knocks this out and things get back to normal in a month, I'm going to have a ton of crap to eat for the rest of the year

 

[Scott Dierking]

10 minutes ago, CTM said:

The other issue is failing supply chains, my market hasn't had organic spinach and kale in over a week.

Been using this baby for a couple of years now. Although, not for kale

 

[Larz]

41 minutes ago, BroadwayJoe12 said:

So I am no longer operating, albeit for the emergency case once or twice a week. Now, even as a surgical resident I primarily work in a 22 bed unit that is only COVID+ patients. I can tell you, I am used to working 100+ hour weeks, 12 days on, 2 off for half a decade: I have never been more stressed out in my entire life. These patients are sick. They decompensate quickly. Have zero reserve. That video of the Italian ICU is calm, compared to the sh*tstorm that I have seen the last two weeks. Running out of mechanical ventilators is a real issue. Running out of proper protective equipment is a real issue. 
 

I’m too tired to say anything more than stay the f*ck home. Anyone downplaying this doesn’t understand that if we reach critical mass, which we will, without blunting the curve, tens of thousands will die simply because of lack of resources. And that’s not to count the thousands of patients who are being sent home with other non-COVID critical illnesses because everyone’s focus is on COVID. If you’re downplaying it, come spend half a day with us.

 

 

 

(also just an aside, viruses when they mutate tend to become less virulent, not more. Not always, but that’s historically how things have gone. Plus, even if you’ve had it or the eventual vaccine, you’ll confer a level of immunity to the newer potentially more virulent one. It’s why the flu vaccine is so damned important). I’ll chime in more with updates and when I’m done passing out. Everyone please, stay Home, stay safe, be smart. 

Thank you for all that you are doing. My daughter is a sophomore nursing student and we donated what we could spare this morning to her program director. Praying the N95 masks start showing up for you