sec101row23 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: My general thought process was that while Jeudy is the more polished WR, Ruggs’ skill set has a bigger upside. The drop off in potential upside is greater with Ruggs. Don’t be surprised if I double dip in the WR pool, especially now that we’ve signed a slew of interior OL guys. I can see me going OT, WR, OT or OT, OT, WR for the next three, depending on what’s available. I think this could be a very real scenario. I agree with the Ruggs selection, plus I think Gase will be lobbying for him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I’m weirded out by Ruggs because Alabama and because of his role in that offense. Guys that do all that short screen sh*t have a steep learning curve as pros. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: One guy who has no real position and one guy who is a DT. Both NY jet type players. I would not be so sure that these guys go. This is a league of imitation and teams just saw us pick Quinnen and him do nothing. They have also seen us will all pro jamal being a swiss army knife and saw out offese be ranked 32nd. Fair points, but teams have different needs. What did people think Urlacher was coming into the draft...safety, linebacker? Simmons is much the same. Kinlaw would fit great in Jacksonville. Point is, there are some teams that have already evolved into the offensive mindset that we have ignored. To their credit, they are the anti-Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’m weirded out by Ruggs because Alabama and because of his role in that offense. Guys that do all that short screen sh*t have a steep learning curve as pros. Truth but he's a freak. The Jeudy/Ruggs situation somewhat reminds me of OBJ/Landry at LSU. Landry was the more steady, less athletic but polished pro style WR. I actually liked him better than OBJ coming out because whenever I watched LSU, Landry was the go to guy. However, folks that watched LSU more closely than I did @BroadwayJoe12 for example, were adamant OBJ was the better prospect and that he'd end up being a more dynamic big play threat in the NFL. They were right. That said, I still like Jeudy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, JiF said: Truth but he's a freak. Dude how many times do we hear this about a prospect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Dude how many times do we hear this about a prospect Maybe Ruggs has a little more upside, but Jeudy is fast, tall great route runner and hands. Very little bust potential there. That would definitely have been my pick there and I still think he is the best all-around WR in the draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Dcat said: Maybe Ruggs has a little more upside, but Jeudy is fast, tall great route runner and hands. Very little bust potential there. That would definitely have been my pick there and I still think he is the best all-around WR in the draft. I’m partial to Justin Jefferson, myself. Like Jeudy, he just seems to know how to play the position and WR is such an instinctive position 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Dude how many times do we hear this about a prospect Sure but I'm very capable of understanding when it's applicable. In Ruggs case, it's applicable. And it's not like he didnt produce and you're going off of testing alone. He did. And on less than 15% target share w/ over 75% catch rate. I think those things are projectable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Just woke up. Making my pick now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I’m partial to Justin Jefferson, myself. Like Jeudy, he just seems to know how to play the position and WR is such an instinctive position Funny. Of all the tops names, Jefferson is the one I worry about the most. Spread scheme guy, only successful out of the slot, doesnt run a ton of routes and the ones he does arent very crisp (I see a lot of banana cuts in his post/slant game). He too IMO is the 2nd best WR on this team, playing on a loaded team, riding a historic offense/QB. I think he's got great ball skills and can make some contested catches but I think he needs scheme to get open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Couldn’t believe Jeudy slipped to me. Thought I would have to go with the less polished Henry Ruggs.? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: The Bucs are hungover and probably wont be working the phones. You are up. Broncos @Paradis on deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, JiF said: Sure but I'm very capable of understanding when it's applicable. In Ruggs case, it's applicable. And it's not like he didnt produce and you're going off of testing alone. He did. And on less than 15% target share w/ over 75% catch rate. I think those things are projectable. Even that 75% suggests he wasn’t running a lot of downfield routes. I tried looking for the stats, but do you have his depth of target numbers? FTR, I’m not saying he isn’t going to be good, just that he makes me nervous as a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Couldn’t believe Jeudy slipped to me. Thought I would have to go with the less polished Henry Ruggs.? The Mods here were ready to pick Jeudy for the Jets if IndianaJet didn't show up this morning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Even that 75% suggests he wasn’t running a lot of downfield routes. I tried looking for the stats, but do you have his depth of target numbers? FTR, I’m not saying he isn’t going to be good, just that he makes me nervous as a prospect. I dont, he averaged 18 something per catch though, so unless he was leading the country in yac, there had to be a mix. That said, the majority of his catches came on 1st down which could suggest you're right or possibly used a lot in the play action game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, IndianaJet said: My general thought process was that while Jeudy is the more polished WR, Ruggs’ skill set has a bigger upside. The drop off in potential upside is greater with Ruggs. Don’t be surprised if I double dip in the WR pool, especially now that we’ve signed a slew of interior OL guys. I can see me going OT, WR, OT or OT, OT, WR for the next three, depending on what’s available. hahaha. I F'in love that! I took one Defensive player in my first mock. I'm a big supporter o what your bringing to the party man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Simmons is an extremely Bowles-y player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Even that 75% suggests he wasn’t running a lot of downfield routes. I tried looking for the stats, but do you have his depth of target numbers? FTR, I’m not saying he isn’t going to be good, just that he makes me nervous as a prospect. I actually may be more nervous about the other two. Neither is especially dominant athletically and from what I read, Jeudy ran a large portion of his routes from out of the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Simmons is an extremely Bowles-y player 10x the player he had here that you despise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I actually may be more nervous about the other two. Neither is especially dominant athletically and from what I read, Jeudy ran a large portion of his routes from out of the slot. I quote myself to remind everyone that I hardly watched any college ball this year - extending my streak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Guys use the selection thread for selections only not for comments about the pick. It’s too hard to sort through a bunch of unnecessary comments. I’m deleting the non selection post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Simmons is an extremely Bowles-y player It was a great value pick especially for the top of the first round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, New York Mick said: It was a great value pick especially for the top of the first round. No doubt. You’d have to think he’s a lock top ten guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 No way Simmons slips past 9 no way Jose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 What I find interesting about all these WRs is that they are so much different. It really comes down to what you are looking for, moreso than one guy being better than others. Jeudy is the technician. Great route runner, very low bust potential. Ruggs is the explosive, big play guy who can take the top off the defense. Lamb is great at the catch point, wins a lot of contested balls. If it is me, I am taking Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb in that order; give me the technician who runs great routes and knows how to get open. But I certainly wouldn't complain if we did come away with Ruggs next month. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: No way Simmons slips past 9 no way Jose If somebody traded up in front of them for the QB they supposedly want, I could see Miami taking Simmons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 @Paradis Inside of 90 minutes left on the clock. Pick due at 2:35 ET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, Lith said: What I find interesting about all these WRs is that they are so much different. It really comes down to what you are looking for, moreso than one guy being better than others. Jeudy is the technician. Great route runner, very low bust potential. Ruggs is the explosive, big play guy who can take the top off the defense. Lamb is great at the catch point, wins a lot of contested balls. If it is me, I am taking Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb in that order; give me the technician who runs great routes and knows how to get open. But I certainly wouldn't complain if we did come away with Ruggs next month. Nice. I see it similarly, but admittedly I've wavered back and forth a bit. lately I'm all over laviska shenault. I'm liking him more and more every day and would consider taking him over the others if I could only choose one, which will be the case lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I’m obsessed with Jeudy. He’s just so smooth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Damn Okudah at 7 and Simmons at 14 are both great value. I very well could be proved wrong in the end, but Ruggs at 11 wouldd make me cringe a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I’m here at the buzzer gimme 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, Paradis said: I’m here at the buzzer gimme 2 Was just about to post your pick. Got in just under the wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 sorry, time is melting together with this isolation thing... and now i put Dcat on the clock 30 secs after he logged off. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Paradis said: sorry, time is melting together with this isolation thing... and now i put Dcat on the clock 30 secs after he logged off. Sigh. Probalby the slowest start to a draft that I can remember. And I thought we would move quickly with everybody stuck at home. Anyway, lets give Dcat some time to check back in. Given the amount of time that he spends helping run this thing, he has earned the right for us to be felxible. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Lith said: Probalby the slowest start to a draft that I can remember. And I thought we would move quickly with everybody stuck at home. Anyway, lets give Dcat some time to check back in. Given the amount of time that he spends helping run this thing, he has earned the right for us to be felxible. That goes for the other three of you, also.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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