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Why do many jets fans act so insecure about darnold vs Allen

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

So tons of media and NFL scouts for 2 years saw him as potentially #1 overall in 17 and 18... they are 10?

Mel Kiper once said he'd retire if Jimmy Clausen wasn't a franchise QB.  That's who you are relying on to prove your point?

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3 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

 

Double post.

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

So you must be 100% correct in order to see general trends

 

Wtf

What about a large raw project who was considered inaccurate with a large arm is considered a "trend"?

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2 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

The thread isnt about darnold 

The thread is why jets fans get butthurt when any other jets fans admits Allen is good or talented or had a good game 

Its ****in weird

What's "f*ckin weird" is coming to a Jets forum to start a thread about Josh Allen because you got absolutely assmad that people thought he sucks in a thread discussing the AFC East. 

Why couldn't you leave it in that thread?

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

He has faults... not sure what your point is 

 

 

That there isn't a "general trend" being noticed in regards to Josh Allen.

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

I really feel our fanbase is truly effed in the head

 

It's just strange 

 

It's like tht guy at the bar constantly buy drinks and hes your friend... you love him but just shake your head

 

Thts how I feel about my jets brothers 

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2 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

I said many scouts had Allen #1... what does that have to  do with darnold 

MANY Scouts also had darnold #1

 

your response again is proving my point

 

Its weird insecurities 

Many scouts had Trubisky as head of his class.  What is your point with this?  Scouts are, more often than not, wrong when it comes to QB rankings.

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4 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

You dont see scouting as a general trend?

 

Why wasnt darnold taken rd 7 if scouting means nothing 

 

Are u really this ...nm

No scouting is not a general trend.  Players and their skillsets are unique every single year.  If we drafted on trends and raw ability alone, the whole league would suck.

Am I really what you absolute goober?  Say it.

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

Then you're saying you darnold could've gone rd 7

 

You literally cant be this dumb

 

Why do 1st rd prospects get invited on the 1st day lol

No. That's not what I said you dense jagaloon.  His abilities, tape, and skillset are the reason are why he, and other players, get DRAFTED, not INVITED, on the first day.  Not TRENDS.

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

 

Highlight videos with zero context in regards to how absolutely awful he was that day. 

Gotta love it.

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

The inaccuracy narrative is simply false but I agree with everything else u said 

Lmao his career completion percentage is 56.3%.

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4 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

He was so awful that he overcame fluke turnovers and dissected us in the 4th under all the pressure 

 

Keep going

Dissected?  If Darryl Roberts is halfway competent and turns his head on a poorly thrown ball, we're 8-8 and they're 9-7.

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5 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

Comp % has nothing to do with accuracy 

 

Try again 

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You're right, he has supreme accuracy.

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

Every qb misses throws. I can pull up tape on Rodgers missing throws 

 

It's a made up narrative 

Rodgers has a career completion percentage of 64.6%.  when he does it, it's considered a rare mistake. 

Pull up tape on him missing a swing pass or missing a wide open TE with zero defenders around him.  I'll wait.

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18 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

Josh Allen isn't as bad people here want him to be.

Going into his rookie season, Josh Allen had the 2nd worst OL, the Worst WR group in the league led by UDFA Robert Foster and Zay Jones. His running backs also averaged about 3.2 yards per carry. He might have had the worst offensive personnel in the last decade during his rookie year. Despite all this, he still showed flashes and completely took over some games.

9/10 starters on the 2018 Bills roster are out the league or backups on the roster bubble right now. The lone exception is Dion Dawkins the BIlls staring LT. That's how bad it was.

In 2019, his O-line was average to below average with several upgrades to his WRs including John Brown and Cole Beasley, who are good but not special. WR was still a weakness on this roster.

Despite all this, Josh Allen was still 6th in total TDs even though he basically sat out week 17.

 

Here is the truth......... Josh Allen averages more TDs per game and less turnovers per game than Sam Darnold. This was true in both his rookie year and sophomore year. 

 

 

As someone has already pointed out, your "truth" is statistically incorrect.

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37 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

Josh Allen was 10-6 his first full NFL season (He started but sat most of week 17)

Josh Allen went 24/46 had 372 Yards 1-1, in his first playoff game.

Josh Allen has never thrown for 300 yards in a game, nor did he throw a TD in the playoffs.  Stop manipulating his rushing, receiving, and passing numbers to fit your narrative.

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

Again comp% does not mean accurate 

Cool.  I've posted other proof.  Now show me Aaron Rodgers missing those same passes.  Btw, all of those passes I showed are from one game.  There's plenty of others.

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12 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

Tht literally didn't happen last yr. Try again 

One of his first passes of the year was a misfired 5-7 yard hitch route into the hands of CJ Mosley for a pick-6.

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Just now, hamat711 said:

That guy is flat out wrong. You can pull up the stats yourself.

No. He's right. We're talking passing statistics.  Not running backs.

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Just now, hamat711 said:

Total yards. 

I never indicated it was passing yards.

Yards are Yards anyway.

Including those number with passing attempts TDs and INTs does not infer "total yards".  It's intentionally dishonest.

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9 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

Bro, stop making things up. Anybody can google this.

Josh Allen has 27 career turnovers.

 

 

How can you constantly be so wrong? Even your number for Darnold is wrong by whatever metric you are using.

 

He has 21 total INTs and 22 total fumbles.  43 turnovers.

You want to include total yards and rushing yards to inflate his numbers, but you don't want to include turnovers because it hurts your argument.

Lmfao, GTFO and go back to your Bills forums.

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1 minute ago, JTJet said:

I will retract one stat, its 37 turnovers for Allen, 39 for Darnold. 

Even with that retraction, the numbers still favor Darnold. 

Sorry Bills fan. 

I'm assuming you retracted fumbles recovered, right?

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I don't even hate Josh Allen as much as this thread might suggest, the kid has proven a lot of narratives about him wrong and some right, like any QB.  However, the lengths some Bills fans will go to attack anyone who disagrees that he's the savior of their franchise is quite alarming.

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2 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

1. Taking over a game with his arm.......... He already has. 

2. He was drafted for his arm..... Nobody excepted him to be this good of a rusher.

3. LOL Josh Allen Dink and Dunk? His average depth of target was 1st his rookie year and top 10 in his 2nd year.

4. Yards are yards. Allen has more 300 total yard games than Darnold.

But let me know when........

Darnold has a winning record in the NFL

Darnold makes the playoffs

Oh look, it's the stat that made Geno Smith a deep ball passer on par with Aaron Rodgers one year.  Didn't think I'd see that one again.

Josh Allen's career YPA is lower than Sam's.  You're not very good at reading numbers, are you?   I give you credit though, you are an excellent cherry picker.

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4 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

Lol at you using fumbles, instead of fumbles lost.

If you are using that metric, it means your numbers on Darnold are wrong and he has 44 fumbles.

Lol these clowns will agree with you but you are dead wrong and keep on cherry picking stats.

@JTJet and I both retracted fumbles lost and he made a statement on that already.

You just came off of telling the both of us that it was easy to Google Josh Allen having 27 career turnovers and now you have the balls to tell us that we're "dead wrong".

Again, GTFO.

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5 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

That is still wrong. lmao

Today I learned that basic math is wrong.

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Just now, ScarletKnight89 said:

Fumbles only matter if they're lost? Do you just not care about ball security at the QB position? Does Josh Allen's ill-advised lateral in the playoff game mean nothing to you because it wasn't a turnover? 

Beat me to it.

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17 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

He had 13 turnovers in 2019 and 14 in 2018. 27 Turnovers is a fact.

No no no.  He had 21 INTs from 2018 and 2019

He had 22 fumbles from 2018 and 2019

  21

+22

  43

This isn't hard.  Fumbles, even if recovered, matter as they usually kill drives and are an indicator of ball security issues.

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3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Did you remove more makeup for Van Roten?

You reminded me. 

Will update.

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1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

With fewer attempts than Darnold

Darnold needs to clean up the stupid INTs and Allen needs to improve his accuracy and stop fumbling.  There.  I ended the thread.

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1 minute ago, 14 in Green said:

Okay, good.

Can we do Mayfield now? 😜

I've had my fill of 7 page Sunday AM argumentative threads for the week.  Next week for sure.

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Can we please ban every single Bills troll if they're going to dispute basic math and, literally, admit that they're posting to cause drama?

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