Popular Post KRL Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/25/jameis-winston-no-market-mailbag From Craig R (@CFR624): What's the latest on Clowney? How do you see the #Seahawks pass rush FA plans unfolding? Craig, I think two things are at work here. One, Clowney’s injury history (he’s had microfracture surgery) is such where he’s getting dinged for the same reason Cam Newton is—an inability to meet with team doctors makes it difficult to prove that he’s not an enormous medical risk. Two, I think his financial expectations were a little unrealistic to begin with, and that’s not a knock on him as a player. I know it was fairly well known in Houston that he wanted to join Frank Clark and DeMarcus Lawrence in the $20 million club after being franchised in 2019, and the Texans were never going there. That, plus clashes with coaches, led to the trade to Seattle, and he was good-not-great for the Seahawks (he actually had fewer sacks than one of the “parts” in his trade, Jacob Martin). So if you’re paying him what he wants, you’re doing that based on potential, and it’s tough to pay someone as banged up as Clowney’s been on that basis. All of that is why I think the likelihood is he’s back in Seattle, maybe on a one-year deal. ================= From S Crossover (@S_Crossover): How does the outcome of the Robby Anderson situation impact the Jets draft intentions, if at all? Hey S, I don’t think it shifts what Joe Douglas’s strategy would be at 11. My sense is the Jets’ preference all along, even with the flurry of free-agent additions, would be to get a cornerstone for the offensive line there. And with four top-shelf tackles likely worthy of going in the top half of the first round—Louisville’s Mekhi Becton, Georgia’s Andrew Thomas, Alabama’s Jedrick Wills and Iowa’s Tristan Wirfs—there’s a good shot that’ll be an option when their pick comes up. (If all four are gone, all bet are off.) Where I do think the loss of Anderson to the Panthers could push the Jets a little is on Day 2 of the draft, where they have three picks (48, 68, 79). Maybe Douglas would be more likely to spend that second-rounder on a receiver now (that second-rounder, by the way, is right around where Michael Thomas and A.J. Brown were drafted in recent years). But even there, Douglas isn’t exactly the panicky type, and I don’t see him pressing a need because of one defection. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CTJetsFan Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 Stay the course JD! Get that "block of granite" at 11 to keep Sam protected then load up on weapons after that 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post section314 Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat22 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I'm still hoping for an outside chance we trade for Ngakue. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, mudcat22 said: I'm still hoping for an outside chance we trade for Ngakue. What would you be willing to trade? I'm at the point where I really want to keep all of our draft picks and see what Douglas can do 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Did he think the Jets were gonna address WR until the 4th round? Hes acting as if it’s NOW a thought to take a WR early. Get outta here Breer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, section314 said: It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. remember his brother, David? Preseason champion? Regular season missing person? I hate the whole nepotism/bloodlines aspect of the league but on the other hand, the Clowney's have the word "clown" right in their family name. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Did he think the Jets were gonna address WR until the 4th round? Hes acting as if it’s NOW a thought to take a WR early. Get outta here Breer. Absurd, maybe the jets would address wr on day 2. Still a pats homer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, mudcat22 said: I'm still hoping for an outside chance we trade for Ngakue. Considering the contract he'd be looking for, I'd only offer our 2nd pick this year for him and maybe throw in a 5th next year. 3rd rd. pick by Jags (69) why haven't our GM's ever found that type of production in the 3rd?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Absurd, maybe the jets would address wr on day 2. Still a pats homer. Yeah, I'm blown away by the tone. Again, the WR corps on this team is among the weakest in the league. Crowder is a nice slot WR (who has been injury prone in the past, btw) and Perriman is an interesting temporary replacement for Anderson. That's what our WRs are right now. No one else is worth mentioning seriously until further notice. I have no issue taking a tackle at #11 if we think a franchise tackle is sitting there, but the notion that "maybe" Douglas will be inclined to pick a WR on day 2 is borderline delusional to me. Frankly, he needs to pick a WR in the 2nd round or 3rd round, unless we are trading for one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, section314 said: It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. It's amazing how one devastating tackle in college has fueled the Clowney myth for the last 6 years. Is he a good player? Yes. Is he worth elite money? Hell no. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, section314 said: It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. Jamal Adams minus the silly self-given nickname. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 So this guy thinks all OL are fits from the Jets? Seems like he was given sound bites so he could move on with his day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Considering the contract he'd be looking for, I'd only offer our 2nd pick this year for him and maybe throw in a 5th next year. 3rd rd. pick by Jags (69) why haven't our GM's ever found that type of production in the 3rd?? Because our last GM took Jachai Polite instead of Winovich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I thought this thread was going to be about potential Clowney -> Jets news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Because our last GM took Jachai Polite instead of Winovich. I swear I'm punching Mac in the face if I ever cross paths w/him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I thought this thread was going to be about potential Clowney -> Jets news. Clowney AND Jets news, Barry. Misleading, yes. Important distinction, also yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Yeah, I'm blown away by the tone. Again, the WR corps on this team is among the weakest in the league. Crowder is a nice slot WR (who has been injury prone in the past, btw) and Perriman is an interesting temporary replacement for Anderson. That's what our WRs are right now. No one else is worth mentioning seriously until further notice. I have no issue taking a tackle at #11 if we think a franchise tackle is sitting there, but the notion that "maybe" Douglas will be inclined to pick a WR on day 2 is borderline delusional to me. Frankly, he needs to pick a WR in the 2nd round or 3rd round, unless we are trading for one. I also think wr is much more in play at 11, or in a trade back to as far as 15. The OT the jets can get in the 2nd may be closer to a borderline 1st round prospect than usual b/c of the tackle depth. I really think a trade back scenario will be in play, where the jets go to 15, get an extra 3rd, and draft one of Jeudy/ruggs/lamb, or maybe someone like Thomas if he falls. But i don’t see staying at 11, taking a tackle and then hoping someone like aiyuk falls to 48. That’s not how you add weapons. Trading back and drafting Jefferson and getting a 3rd rounder is much better use of the draft capital. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 He’s an Impact player with above average talent. That would take him off-the-table for these NY Jets. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Jamal Adams minus the silly self-given nickname. I hear ya.....Clowney wishes he had Jamal's sack numbers.? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, section314 said: It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. Do we have to talk about Jamal in EVERY thread? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, section314 said: It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. Clown ? fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Do we have to talk about Jamal in EVERY thread? Yes until he’s gone. Persistence is required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Yes until he’s gone. Persistence is required. Or the handful of haters wake up and stop trolling their own team and players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Or the handful of haters wake up and stop trolling their own team and players H A T E Hate Hate Hate......Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: H A T E Hate Hate Hate......Adams Good for you Theres always room for those who make little to no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Good for you Theres always room for those who make little to no sense. You’re not far behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Wonderboy said: You’re not far behind Not really close But if believing that makes you happy, you really do need help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, section314 said: It's scary how delusional Clowney is in regard to how good he considers himself to be. Approaching Prez levels... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Losmeister said: Approaching Prez levels... Watch it Jet Nut ? is monitoring this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Wasn’t this literally the plan WITH resigning Robby Anderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Clowney's mindset and a 1 year deal is dangerous for non-competing teams but could make sense if the Seahawks think they can win it all next year. If they win it all, he does well, contributes to them winning, then it was worth it. If they don't win, there are two ways it could go which would end up being bad for the Seahawks. If he plays well, gets double digit sacks, helps them win games, it'll be hard for them to re-sign him again for less than the $20 million. If he plays poorly, they just wasted all of that money and playing experience for another player to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat22 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 hours ago, slimjasi said: What would you be willing to trade? I'm at the point where I really want to keep all of our draft picks and see what Douglas can do I'd offer our 2nd rounder for Ngokue. Who in round 2 would be as good as Ngokue? Our only negative is he will use up our cap space. I'd offer a 4th for Trent Williams. Him wanting $20M a year is a pipe dream. These players don't want to play for their current teams which lowers their price. Trading them also gives the current teams a load of cap space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 What are we sitting 40mil under the cap? Why not make a run on Clowney? It would be short term and fill a big hole in a big way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, BigRy56 said: What are we sitting 40mil under the cap? Why not make a run on Clowney? It would be short term and fill a big hole in a big way Because we're in the beginning of a rebuilding phase. We're not going to contend this year. We need to draft well the next few years, not sign Clowney's. How would signing someone to a $20 million per year short term deal make sense for a team like us? 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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