Popular Post GeorgeJetson Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nixhead Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Wow - Nice coup! I hope Jets are saving their money for someone special - who I don't know? At least we have some money left for a competent kicker and not a scrap heap kicker. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Winters is making 6 million so if they don't cut him Van Roten is the backup 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 JD killing the contractual part of his job description. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New York Mick Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Winters is making 6 million so if they don't cut him Van Roten is the backup The best player starts not the most expensive 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 U think they keep Winters so him n Van Roten battle it out? Reasonable deal Greggy Poo tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: JD killing the contractual part of his job description. This cannot be talked about enough. He is finding value. I think this is going to translate nicely to the draft. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 F*ck it. JD gets an upgraded photo for that deal alone. I present to you: Joesideon 8 4 3 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mogglez said: F*ck it. JD gets an upgraded photo for that deal alone. I present to you: Joesideon He needs a big pair of steel balls to complete the image! 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patriot Killa Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 This guy is a beast at contract negations. either you come to NYJ for his price or kick rocks. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Winters is making 6 million so if they don't cut him Van Roten is the backupI think JD will ask Winters to take a pay cut or rework his contact. Also I think GVR started at LG with the Panthers. I'm hoping we draft a RG at some point. Lewis could easily wind up being a backup again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, tdoublee said: I think JD will ask Winters to take a pay cut or rework his contact. Also I think GVR started at LG with the Panthers. I'm hoping we draft a RG at some point. Lewis could easily wind up being a backup again. Alex Lewis much more expensive than Van Roten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsbb said: Alex Lewis much more expensive than Van Roten 6 mill guaranteed isn’t bad though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: F*ck it. JD gets an upgraded photo for that deal alone. I present to you: Joesideon This is glorious.... The total transformation over the week will be legend... From clown to God in a week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: This guy is a beast at contract negations. either you come to NYJ for his price or kick rocks. While I like what JD has done, Idzik was the same way when it came to negotiations IIRC. We'll see how the end result turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Solid price for an average player. but def. happy with the signing. he's an upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, King P said: While I like what JD has done, Idzik was the same way when it came to negotiations IIRC. We'll see how the end result turns out. This approach works well if you can draft well. Idzik couldn't. Hopefully JD can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Alex Lewis much more expensive than Van Roten Yeah that is a big difference. Hopefully the most talented players get to play.I think I saw somewhere that GVR agreed to this deal without his agent in the room? If so, his agent must be pissed. That's a pretty good hometown discount. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, tdoublee said: Yeah that is a big difference. Hopefully the most talented players get to play. I think I saw somewhere that GVR agreed to this deal without his agent in the room? If so, his agent must be pissed. That's a pretty good hometown discount. hahaha. Now how the hell did JD pull THAT off? Agent goes to take a leak and comes back to a signed deal. Gotta love it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: He needs a big pair of steel balls to complete the image! Bleeped out balls and that sh*t is a masterpiece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: This guy is a beast at contract negations. either you come to NYJ for his price or kick rocks. I think that's actually what happened here. The Jets came to an agreement, and the electronic signing phase, the player starting saying I want this or that also, and Douglas said 'kiss my ass, bye'. Kind of like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Only one penalty Called on him in two yrs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: F*ck it. JD gets an upgraded photo for that deal alone. I present to you: Joesideon Some how I get the feeling your a very emotional person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, flgreen said: Some how I get the feeling your a very emotional person. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Winters may be playing a game of chicken with JD. The Jets need him for backup depth and don't want him to hit the open market to determine his value for fear of losing him. So Winters might not renegotiate his contract. Even if the Jets pay him more than GVR and he's used as backup I think he's worth it and the Jets appear to have the cap dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: Winters may be playing a game of chicken with JD. The Jets need him for backup depth and don't want him to hit the open market to determine his value for fear of losing him. So Winters might not renegotiate his contract. Even if the Jets pay him more than GVR and he's used as backup I think he's worth it and the Jets appear to have the cap dollars. If he is, he's going to lose. Winters has almost no leverage. He's been replaced. If the Jets pick up a guard, even in the 5th round, he's screwed. He has no money guaranteed on a nice contract. Jets can hold him until the final cut. Then he'll have to sign for vet min. If the Jets want to keep him, and I'm not sure they do, he'd be wise to sign a team friendly deal 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, flgreen said: If he is, he's going to lose. Winters has almost no leverage. He's been replaced. If the Jets pick up a guard, even in the 5th round, he's screwed. He has no money guaranteed on a nice contract. Jets can hold him until the final cut. Then he'll have to sign for vet min. If the Jets want to keep him, and I'm not sure they do, he'd be wise to sign a tea friendly deal Agreed. But unless JD can pick up a replacement it may be worth the cap dollars *if* the Jets have the room. I just don't want to see the OL fall apart after a starter gets injured and we don't have a viable backup. Definitely hold on to him until after the draft and until the final cuts to see who else comes available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: Agreed. But unless JD can pick up a replacement it may be worth the cap dollars *if* the Jets have the room. I just don't want to see the OL fall apart after a starter gets injured and we don't have a viable backup. Definitely hold on to him until after the draft and until the final cuts to see who else comes available. Actually I like Winters. He's been disappointing because he's ALWAYS playing thru some injury. Probably would be a good back up for both G spots, but he has to take a back up contract. IMO, one thing Douglas has shown he's not going to play around with contracts on non star players. Either you take what he's offering, or move on. Think in the end Winters will take what's being offered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, tdoublee said: Yeah that is a big difference. Hopefully the most talented players get to play. I think I saw somewhere that GVR agreed to this deal without his agent in the room? If so, his agent must be pissed. That's a pretty good hometown discount. 1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said: hahaha. Now how the hell did JD pull THAT off? Agent goes to take a leak and comes back to a signed deal. Gotta love it. I told you guys last week these negotiations got very heated, with the Jets not offering what they originally said they would. JD and the agent were at odds, and Van Roten got upset with his agent eventually. He called JD himself and asked for his vey best offer. I TOLD YOU THIS AS SOON AS THE DEAL WAS ANNOUNCED, AND THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE GUARANTEED MONEY. Van Roten really wanted to play for his favorite team. LOL at the posters here who thought he would publicly call out his agent or JD and disclose what happened behind closed doors. I’ve caught some grief over this, from the usual cast of wise acres, but I could not have had a better source. At least the part about the very low guarantee money has shown to be true. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 hours ago, tdoublee said: Also I think GVR started at LG with the Panthers. I'm hoping we draft a RG at some point. Lewis could easily wind up being a backup again. McGovern can play RG as well, if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I really like what JD is doing on the interior line. The tackles are very shaky right now, but if JD drafts one in the first two rounds of the draft (and maybe another one in the 3rd round), then all is good. I still think all of the signings, except McGovern, are hold the fort/depth ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 JD is the Pawn Stars of GM’s. Lowballs the hell out of the guy, then says I can give an extra hundred if it helps you out ?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I think he is setting a standard... If you are getting a re-up we pay slightly more to keep... if your new ... i'll give you a prove it 1-year contract or low ball short term contract. Sets a culture to stay rather then leave... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: This guy is a beast at contract negations. either you come to NYJ for his price or kick rocks. I’m going to have Joe D on the phone with me when when I call the Jets to renegotiate my PSLs and season ticket prices. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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