Popular Post Paradis Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 The way things are trending, it wouldn't shock me to see Jeudy at #11, or any WR on the board at 11. Here's what we know to be the bare minimum: two QBs (Burrow, Tua) three defense (Okudah, Young, Simmons) at least three OTs (Thomas, Wirfs, Beckton/Wills) You're at 8.... meaning there's only a two player gap. Quite Likely: 3rd QB (Herbert) a 4th OT or DT (Beckton/Wills, or Brown) That's 10... and EVEN IF one of those teams surprises with a WR, at this point Ruggs & Lamb appear just as likely to be selected. Let's take it 1 step further -- besides the Giants who need help everywhere, who is even likely to take WR?.... JAX... i guess? CIN - QB WSH - Young DET - Okudah NYG - wild card i guess? OT more than likely MIA - QB SD - need a QB or OT CAR - Just signed RA, probably Def/OT ARZ - Def/OT JAX - wildcard, but i think OLine is more likely. CLE - OT ...Baring a team trading up (which why would you if you're the GM, draft is loaded at WR) I can't see a scenario where more than 1 WR is selected. well Lady Luck finally wink our way? Jeudy at 11 would be a colossal gift 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/dynamic-henry-ruggs-iii-could-force-jets-hand-at-nfl-draft/amp/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 Sam needs protection . 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 I think he’s probably there at #11 And given the athletic profile that Douglas and Gase seem to want in their OL, if Wirfs and Wills are gone I could see them preferring a guy like Jeudy over their 3rd or 4th ranked OT. A guy like Todd McShay, who is close with Douglas, has said that Jeudy is the best WR prospect he’s ever evaluated. Daniel Jeremiah, another close friend of Douglas, has echoed much of the same. It’s entirely possible that Douglas adds someone like Peters within the next week or two, then decides to grab Jeudy at #11 and take an OT in the 2nd round. It’s also entirely possible that someone like Austin Jackson or Ezra Cleveland is there at #48. Especially with the slew of WR’s, CB’s and EDGE set to go during that time frame. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Would have no problem taking a game changing WR at 11 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welp Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 It’s highly likely no WR is going top 10 since there’s just too much depth there in this draft. With that said there no reason we should draft one at 11 when we can get great value at WR in the 2nd and 3rd round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I think he’s probably there at #11 And given the athletic profile that Douglas and Gase seem to want in their OL, if Wirfs and Wills are gone I could see them preferring a guy like Jeudy over their 3rd or 4th ranked OT. A guy like Todd McShay, who is close with Douglas, has said that Jeudy is the best WR prospect he’s ever evaluated. Daniel Jeremiah, another close friend of Douglas, has echoed much of the same. It’s entirely possible that Douglas adds someone like Peters within the next week or two, then decides to grab Jeudy at #11 and take an OT in the 2nd round. It’s also entirely possible that someone like Austin Jackson or Ezra Cleveland is there at #48. Especially with the slew of WR’s, CB’s and EDGE set to go during that time frame. No argument from me. its Jacksonville that i have circled with a question mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, Paradis said: No argument from me. its Jacksonville that i have circled with a question mark So you’ve landed on Juedy? Final answer? Lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 take jeudy or lamb if the top 3 o lineman are gone. if wirfs or thomas are there i think u run to the podium. i could be wrong but i don't think wills is that good for a top 15 pick. we haven't drafted an offensive weapon at least that panned out in forever. if we take ruggs over the other two i will be upset. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 So basically Jeudy is your WR1 @Paradis? Noted lol. I still prefer Lamb, but I'd be more than happy with Jeudy. Either of those would be great at 11. Give Sam weapons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 No top OT @11, = trade down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marshmello Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 Nfl draft guru Greg Cosell's take on some of the wide receivers: Jerry Jeudy - best WR in the draft, has an advanced and refined feel for route running and you don't see this very often from college receivers. Subtle understanding of how to set up corners with his footwork and body lean. Has great short area quickness, he's explosive. Talked to him at the SB and he said he studies the great receivers. He has a complete skill set. Reminds me of Odell Beckham coming out of LSU, there are similarities to an Antonio Brown in his prime. He can play outside, he can play in the slot - 70% of his receptions came in the slot this year, but he can play outside as well. CLEARLY the best WR prospect in this draft and there is not a close second. Did he drop too many passes? No, not to me, didn't see that as a problem. -CeeDee Lamb - not close to Jeudy, I don't see Lamb at that level. He's tall, he's lanky, I don't think he plays to that size as consistently as he should. Smooth and fluid, but I don't think he's sudden or explosive. He's a good prospect, but not at the level of Jeudy. -Henry Ruggs - I actually like him more than Lamb as well. Ruggs fits the modern NFL well - you can use him on jet sweeps, reverses, the screen game. He's as explosive a WR as I've seen on tape in recent years. He's got short area burst, he's got INSTANT effortless acceleration. I mean this guy, from what people are saying in the league, will run in the 4.25 range 40. He's one of those guys. He can line up in multiple positions, he can work all 3 levels of the defense. He's not as advanced as Jeudy as a route runner but he's got some subtleties to him as well. The way he moves, he kind of reminded me of Isaac Bruce type player, because he's got that speed-cut ability. -Tee Higgins - I watched Higgins last summer and didn't love him. Watched him again in the last 10 days and I really liked his new tape from 2019. I think he's got really good playspeed, has excellent hands. He's got size, length, movement, hands. He can make contested catches, natural hands catcher. And I think those guys transition well. I think you can line him up as an X receiver, he can be a big slot. In some ways, and people are going to say "you are crazy" because of what this guy has done in the league, but he kind of reminded me a bit of Michael Thomas coming out of Ohio State. And keep in mind that Michael Thomas was a second round pick. Higgins... the more I watched him, the more I liked him. -Justin Jefferson - he will be seen as a slot.. 100 out of his 111 catches came from the slot ,that's 90%. To me he profiles as a smooth, polished slot receiver, he's got good size, good length. I think he can work effectively between the numbers at the short-to-intermediate level. He's not sudden or explosive but I thought he has good feel for working inside, good feel of pace and tempo as a route runner. Good hands, tough, competitive... good slot prospect. The question is where do those get drafted? It's not for me to decide. Can he play outside or is he purely a slot? And in order to play outside you will need to win one-on-one with isolation individual routes and that would be a question. -Jalen Reagor - he was interesting to me because when I started to watch him I thought he was more quick than sudden, but the more I watched him I thought he really had some twitch and some speed to him. He's a smaller guy so the question is where does he play? I think he can play both inside and outside. Some teams might see him as a quick slot, others might think he can line up outside. I thought he was pretty nuanced as a route runner. I thought he had a plan, I thought he had nuanced understanding of how to win both off the ball and through his route. There was a defining sense of polish and refinement to his game. Another guy the more I watched, the more I really liked. I think he can line up all over the formation and and be a matchup beast and there is certain explosiveness to his game. Really intriguing prospect. -Jauan Jennings - He's not a quick twitch athlete, but boy ... he's a good football player. I really loved his tape. He's 6'3" 206 and that matters, he's a big man. I think he's a big slot. I think he's physical, he's competitive both as a route runner and after the catch. I think his body type and his physical and mental toughness and attitude fits the NFL game as a slot receiver. He won't have vertical dimension, but he plays with competitive mindset, toughness, physicality. Some people think he's not good enough athlete, but I think he can play and be a good player. Really, really liked his tape. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: So you’ve landed on Juedy? Final answer? Lol... 7 minutes ago, King P said: So basically Jeudy is your WR1 @Paradis? Noted lol. I still prefer Lamb, but I'd be more than happy with Jeudy. Either of those would be great at 11. Give Sam weapons Lol, you guys... I haven’t put Ruggs against Jeudy, but I’m sure I like them over Lamb. They’re all playmakers. i would have preferred Higgins to not have a such a tumultuous offseason. He (was) better than them all. i don’t like using the label “WR1”. I have Jefferson and Mims right there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, BROOKLYN JET said: https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/dynamic-henry-ruggs-iii-could-force-jets-hand-at-nfl-draft/amp/ Ruggs described as not being fast but rather as having LEGENDARY speed. Bob Hayes type speed! He ran a 4.27 40 yard dash at combine. Not the fastest but one of the fastest ever recorded. https://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Welp said: It’s highly likely no WR is going top 10 since there’s just too much depth there in this draft. With that said there no reason we should draft one at 11 when we can get great value at WR in the 2nd and 3rd round. If the top WR are available it would be very tough to turn them especially if the top OL are off the board 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Oh man... if we took Jeudy over an OL I would SO put out! What a let down. /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welp Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jets723 said: If the top WR are available it would be very tough to turn them especially if the top OL are off the board I've stated in other threads my preference would be to trade down at that point. I wouldn't be disappointed if we chose Jeudy or Lamb but I would prefer to get more picks because it's likely that another WR picked will also be a very good player in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Paradis said: Lol, you guys... I haven’t put Ruggs against Jeudy, but I’m sure I like them over Lamb. They’re all playmakers. i would have preferred Higgins to not have a such a tumultuous offseason. He (was) better than them all. i don’t like using the label “WR1”. I have Jefferson and Mims right there too. That’s the problem with this WR class, it’s hard to come up with a clear hierarchy. Kind of depends on what flavor you like, and what receiver position you are looking to fill. Mims might be the best all around prospect when you consider all of the characteristics, speed, length, hands. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: That’s the problem with this WR class, it’s hard to come up with a clear hierarchy. Kind of depends on what flavor you like, and what receiver position you are looking to fill. Mims might be the best all around prospect when you consider all of the characteristics, speed, length, hands. This is why we need two 1st round picks. Get an OL with pick 11 and with the other 1st, trade up if need be and take Mims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetstream23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I kinda love the idea of being able to trade down from #11 to the 17-25 area and still have a shot to get at least one of Mims, Jefferson, Higgins.....and further back to get Aiyuk, Reagor, etc. The question for me is what kind of compensation would we get to move from say #11 to about ~20? If it's a 2nd round pick then in my mind, with this WR class, that's a slam dunk. I can live with not getting Jeudy, Ruggs or Lamb if I get a 2nd round pick and someone like Jefferson, Mims, Higgins, etc. However, we would need to play some game theory about what team might want to come up to #11 and, more importantly, which teams we'd want to stay in front of in the Draft order. For example, I think the Eagles at #21 are going to be all over a WR. Denver at #15 might be looking for one of the Top 3 WRs as well. In a recent mock draft Kiper had the Eagles taking Jefferson. https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/25/2020-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-eagles-justin-jefferson/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: The question for me is what kind of compensation would we get to move from say #11 to about ~20? If it's a 2nd round pick then in my mind, with this WR class, that's a slam dunk. If you go from 11 to 20 you better get way more than a second round pick. Maybe a 2nd and 4th this year with a 3rd rounder next year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, RobR said: If you go from 11 to 20 you better get way more than a second round pick. Maybe a 2nd and 4th this year with a 3rd rounder next year. I'd hope so too....I obviously didn't look at the Draft value chart or anything. But I am saying that I'd be willing to take a 2nd to move back that far in this Draft simply because it would put the Jets in that mix for not only one of the Top 6 WRs in this Draft (Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb, Jefferson, Mims, Higgins....at least in my book) but might also be looking at Josh Jones at OT. Taking Josh Jones at say #20 and now having two 2nd rounders could let the Jets maneuver up in that 2nd round from #48 to a spot in the 30's to grab a WR they want. I'm anxious to see how Joe D plays Round 1 and if he moves around a bit. Thus far he has should some serious acumen when it comes to $$ value vs. talent. I think that may carry over to Draft value vs. talent in late April. I just simply can't see this guy reaching for anyone. It hasn't been in his nature thus far in FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 This is a consensus of where many analysts project these OTs potential draft round: Austin Jackson (1...2?); Ezra Cleveland (1-2?); Prince Tega Wanogho (2); Isaiah Wilson (2-3); Lucas Niang (3); Matt Peart (3); Josh Jones (2-4); Ben Bartch (3) Terence Steele (4). And I'll stop there. These players have all been thoroughly evaluated through their game tape, Senior Bowl week and Combine by JD and his staff. We don't know where exactly they've been placed on JD's Big Board. Two of these players could end up being picked in rounds 2-4, to fit into the wide splits and zone blocking scheme Gase wants to implement. If so...then Jeudy at #11 could be their choice to give Darnold an elite weapon for Gase's pass oriented offense. The goal is not simply provide Darnold with solid protection. But to also give him a formidable skill player for defenses to worry about. Jeudy is a nightmare for CBs to cover. Jeudy's extraordinary route running ability helps the Jets passing O to be..."open for business" all times he's on the field. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I'd hope so too....I obviously didn't look at the Draft value chart or anything. But I am saying that I'd be willing to take a 2nd to move back that far in this Draft simply because it would put the Jets in that mix for not only one of the Top 6 WRs in this Draft (Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb, Jefferson, Mims, Higgins....at least in my book) but might also be looking at Josh Jones at OT. Taking Josh Jones at say #20 and now having two 2nd rounders could let the Jets maneuver up in that 2nd round from #48 to a spot in the 30's to grab a WR they want. I'm anxious to see how Joe D plays Round 1 and if he moves around a bit. Thus far he has should some serious acumen when it comes to $$ value vs. talent. I think that may carry over to Draft value vs. talent in late April. I just simply can't see this guy reaching for anyone. It hasn't been in his nature thus far in FA. What I was getting at, is that if you trade down to 20ish, that team will also have a lower 2nd round pick and not all second round picks are created equal. If for some reason they had a high 2nd than I could see doing this but I'd still want a pick coming back next year. As to your last paragraph I think he's going to be moving around alot, unlike someone like Idzik who never pulled off one draft day trade. Mind boggling when you think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, Welp said: I've stated in other threads my preference would be to trade down at that point. I wouldn't be disappointed if we chose Jeudy or Lamb but I would prefer to get more picks because it's likely that another WR picked will also be a very good player in the NFL. I wouldnt mind trading down as long as it’s not too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Sam needs protection . He also needs targets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: This is why we need two 1st round picks. Get an OL with pick 11 and with the other 1st, trade up if need be and take Mims. Trade Adams 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, CanadienJetsFan said: No top OT @11, = trade down. With who ? Who is moving up? The trade down crowd makes it seem like it's automatic - like a draft pick. "The Jets trade down." Somebody has to want to move up. Unless a top 3 QB drops or some team wants to move up for Love, I don't see a team wanting to trade up from the 20's to 11. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: With who ? Who is moving up? The trade down crowd makes it seem like it's automatic - like a draft pick. "The Jets trade down." Somebody has to want to move up. Unless atop 3 QB drops or some team wants Love, I don't see a team wanting to trade up from the 20's to 11. Don’t you know there’s an app JD can download on his iPhone to trade down at will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: With who ? Who is moving up? The trade down crowd makes it seem like it's automatic - like a draft pick. "The Jets trade down." Somebody has to want to move up. There would be LOTS of takers if Jeudy is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, CanadaSteve said: There would be LOTS of takers if Jeudy is there. So why don’t they trade up with any of ten teams ahead of us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Welp said: It’s highly likely no WR is going top 10 since there’s just too much depth there in this draft. With that said there no reason we should draft one at 11 when we can get great value at WR in the 2nd and 3rd round. Yes, but if all 4 OTs are gone and we are left with OT Josh Jones we would be faced wth trade down a bit and take him or take the BA WR on our board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: There would be LOTS of takers if Jeudy is there. If the 4 OL are gone and Jeudy is there, I don't see the Jets passing on him. But even so, if the Jets do trade down, who's to say what's left in the 20s? Jones could go before then as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Philc1 said: He also needs targets Not if he's on his ass every other play . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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