LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 By Mike Sando (The Athletic) It’s strange seeing the Bengals making bigger-ticket purchases than the Jets in free agency, especially with coach Adam Gase and quarterback Sam Darnold entering what would seem to be pivotal seasons. But after the Jets made poor investments under a desperate GM last offseason, a little restraint could be good for the long-term outlook. Not that the Jets were inactive. They signed a long list of players without making a long list of commitments deep into the future. It’s a successful free agency if the Jets fixed their offensive line, which multiple execs thought they did not despite signing former Seattle tackle George Fant and former Denver center Connor McGovern, each for about $9 million per year. “What is worse, tying yourself to Le’Veon Bell for $27 million guaranteed, or tying yourself to Fant and McGovern for $31 million guaranteed?” an exec asked. That depends upon one’s opinion of Fant and McGovern. The Jets apparently thought better of those two than others did, particularly concerning Fant. “I like Fant as a third tackle,” another exec said, “and McGovern is OK.” Fant was once considered the Seahawks’ left tackle of the future, but a serious knee injury prevented him from playing in 2017, resetting his trajectory. Seattle used him extensively as an additional lineman in a power scheme, but the Seahawks let both Fant and their starting right tackle, Germain Ifedi, depart. “Fant is really like a developmental tackle,” another exec said. “I don’t think their line is fixed at all.” Breshad Perriman’s acquisition on a deal averaging $6.0 million had the potential to become a cost-effective alternative to Robby Anderson, who left the Jets for Carolina. With Tampa Bay last season, Perriman was one of 83 NFL wideouts with at least 30 receptions. He ranked No. 1 among them in percentage of receptions gaining more than 15 yards. “Perriman played well, and now he has to prove he can do it for a season,” a GM said, “It is always for four or five games with him.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 There are like three good offensive lines in the entire league, but these unnamed “execs” are surely experts on OL acquisitions. 11 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LIJetsFan Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 "tying yourself to Fant and McGovern for $31 million guaranteed?” Totally wrong.....shame on the athletic 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Fant is going to be the new kalil 6 games into next season. McGovern I'm fine with. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green Truth Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 This looks like a made up story. Just to write a story. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: "tying yourself to Fant and McGovern for $31 million guaranteed?” Totally wrong.....shame on the athletic $13M from Fant, $18M from McGovern, however Fant only has $8.5 M fully guaranteed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LIJetsFan Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Fant is going to be the new kalil 6 games into next season. McGovern I'm fine with. You might be right which is why 100% we go OT at 11 .....these WR at 11 guys are delusional. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TNJet Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 Good offseason so far but we lack the solid LT, and a better WR. 2 things we can fix easily in this months draft. After we draft Thomas or Wirfs, And a solid WR in round 2, we'll be back in the game. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: $13M from Fant, $18M from McGovern, however Fant only has $8.5 M fully guaranteed. Still....not $31m but I didn't realize we gave McG so much guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 It’s like when someone posts a picture of a hot chick on Twitter and a couple of greasy slobs named “Vinny” reply with “No offense, but I f*cked plenty of hotter chicks than this” 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Fant is going to be the new kalil 6 games into next season. McGovern I'm fine with. He'll be a fine RT. After we draft the LT at 11, its all good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Sadly, I agree with regards to Fant. Seems like a decent third tackle, as does Edoga, yet one or both of them will end up starting. Drafting OT at #11 seems very important. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, TNJet said: He'll be a fine RT. After we draft the LT at 11, its all good. He is not good, he will not be fine at RT 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He is not good, he will not be fine at RT He's probably as good as Shell, Qvale, or Edoga so try and be positive homes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 so the jets finally enter a free agency period without throwing tons of money on a couple of has been players and they get dissed. imo they improved the oline even if fant has to play right. the thing is there are still opportunities and until the draft is held there's no telling how well douglas has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: By Mike Sando (The Athletic) It’s strange seeing the Bengals making bigger-ticket purchases than the Jets in free agency, especially with coach Adam Gase and quarterback Sam Darnold entering what would seem to be pivotal seasons. But after the Jets made poor investments under a desperate GM last offseason, a little restraint could be good for the long-term outlook. Not that the Jets were inactive. They signed a long list of players without making a long list of commitments deep into the future. It’s a successful free agency if the Jets fixed their offensive line, which multiple execs thought they did not despite signing former Seattle tackle George Fant and former Denver center Connor McGovern, each for about $9 million per year. “What is worse, tying yourself to Le’Veon Bell for $27 million guaranteed, or tying yourself to Fant and McGovern for $31 million guaranteed?” an exec asked. That depends upon one’s opinion of Fant and McGovern. The Jets apparently thought better of those two than others did, particularly concerning Fant. “I like Fant as a third tackle,” another exec said, “and McGovern is OK.” Fant was once considered the Seahawks’ left tackle of the future, but a serious knee injury prevented him from playing in 2017, resetting his trajectory. Seattle used him extensively as an additional lineman in a power scheme, but the Seahawks let both Fant and their starting right tackle, Germain Ifedi, depart. “Fant is really like a developmental tackle,” another exec said. “I don’t think their line is fixed at all.” Breshad Perriman’s acquisition on a deal averaging $6.0 million had the potential to become a cost-effective alternative to Robby Anderson, who left the Jets for Carolina. With Tampa Bay last season, Perriman was one of 83 NFL wideouts with at least 30 receptions. He ranked No. 1 among them in percentage of receptions gaining more than 15 yards. “Perriman played well, and now he has to prove he can do it for a season,” a GM said, “It is always for four or five games with him.” Either that executive is a total idiot and this guy can't even fact check a simple quote, or this was simply the author speaking to the voices in his head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Fant is going to be the new kalil 6 games into next season. McGovern I'm fine with. I don't think he comes in with nearly the expectation Kalil did. If people are expecting pro-powl caliber play from him that's on them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Either that Executive is a total idiot and this guy can't even fact check a simple quote, or this was simply the author speaking to the voices in his head. Sando normally covers the Seahawks. It’s not surprising that he’d dredge up some “Fant is meh” quotes from the franchise that gave up on him 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, TNJet said: He's probably as good as Shell, Qvale, or Edoga so try and be positive homes. That’s not exactly a high bar you’re setting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 Prediction George Fant will start at LT and be about as good/bad as Beachum. He's an acceptable, middle of the road LT starter. he's not a right tackle. The seahawks played him out of position at power tight end and if he could play RT, he would have (they let Ifedi go for Brandon Shell). Another prediction I could see them drafting competition for Fant/Edoga past rd1 and that player will swing tackle this season. Matt Peart UConn is the guy I've been focused on for whatever reason. Tall, athletic, local zone guy https://www.nfl.com/prospects/matt-peart?id=32195045-4163-4229-79fd-743221e3c286 The glaring problem with the Jets' line last year wasn't tackle by the way it was guard/center. 12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Well that's one take. Did they see what we had on the field last year? Excited to have a decent to average line this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Unless a name is attached to these invisible talking heads I call fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: You might be right which is why 100% we go OT at 11 .....these WR at 11 guys are delusional. unless of course JD sees better talent in any one of the OTs/WRs at 11 than all the others and takes whichever one he thinks is the besst from either of those two positions. And don't be so quick to dismiss the abilities of the 2nd tier of OTs. Maybe one or two of them fit JD/AGs objecties as well as whichever ones they like from the top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 This 'article', if you can call it that, is trash. However, I think it is fair to criticize JD for the fact that he has not yet adequately addressed the OT position. There is still the draft and free agents will shake loose after the draft but going into the draft with Fant and Edoga as the only legit OTs on the roster can be hard to stomach for a lot of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, TNJet said: He's probably as good as Shell, Qvale, or Edoga so try and be positive homes. Yup. Probably an upgrade over Shell, Qvale and Edoga. But not by much. The question is, how much will he continue to improve. There is certainly room to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, bitonti said: Prediction George Fant will start at LT and be about as good/bad as Beachum. He's an acceptable, middle of the road LT starter. he's not a right tackle. The seahawks played him out of position at power tight end and if he could play RT, he would have (they let Ifedi go for Brandon Shell). Another prediction I could see them drafting competition for Fant/Edoga past rd1 and that player will swing tackle this season. Matt Peart UConn is the guy I've been focused on for whatever reason. Tall, athletic, local zone guy https://www.nfl.com/prospects/matt-peart?id=32195045-4163-4229-79fd-743221e3c286 The glaring problem with the Jets' line last year wasn't tackle by the way it was guard/center. He seems lean and agile. Had no choice to check him out as he's always on the board in the 3rd round. Also doing some digging on Prince Tega Wanogho. Seems like another guy who fits the mold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Fant is going to be the new kalil 6 games into next season. McGovern I'm fine with. I don't see the connection. Fant is young and athletic with potential. Kalil is old, banged up, years beyond his prime, and retired when they signed him. Kalil was brought into to play center. Fant is a hedge against not finding a plug and play tackle in the draft. Fant is a versatile tackle who can play both sides, and is an option at tackle-eligible plays. The two signings are similar in that they both play OL. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyLV Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He is not good, he will not be fine at RT I think Fant is going to surprise you actually. Seattle kept him as a tweener player rotating all over the line and lining up often at TE, There are several analysis that are very positive about Fant. He had some struggles at run blocking. But he is an excellent scheme fit for what Gase is doing and that alone will see the level of his play improve. I think Fant trying to block a man scheme for RW is one case where PFF grades are literally useless. Also, there are a couple factors people seem to consistently ignore. First, the OL is certainly not set and I would be shocked if we didnt not draft at least 2 if not 3 or 4 OL in the draft. Second it seems like the analysis is very binary, either the OL is bad or the OL is good. The moves JD made probably do not make this a "good" ie top third of the NFL OL. But it does it make it better and probably at least average. Average is an incredible upgrade from without exaggeration one of the worst OLs in NFL history. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, T0mShane said: There are like three good offensive lines in the entire league, but these unnamed “execs” are surely experts on OL acquisitions. It would be interesting to put names to these un named sources. Obviously they are highlights but what I ve seen of Fant at LT was encouraging, not worrisome. McGovern was considered the best center available and Van Rotten was at least mediocre last season. My biggest concern is Edoga at RT-will we see the player who shut down Dallas rush in his first game, or the guys that looked lost later in the season? If we draft a decent tackle to compete with Edoga for that slot, and the players stay healthy, the line shouldnt be a detriment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 42 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Sando normally covers the Seahawks. It’s not surprising that he’d dredge up some “Fant is meh” quotes from the franchise that gave up on him I read that Seattle wanted him back but Fant wanted to start at LT and Seattle had their LT in place. Im sure money played into it as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, rangerous said: so the jets finally enter a free agency period without throwing tons of money on a couple of has been players and they get dissed. imo they improved the oline even if fant has to play right. the thing is there are still opportunities and until the draft is held there's no telling how well douglas has done. It’s a damned if they do damned if they dont scenerio. Let’s be honest no matter what they do the”experts” will bash them because that’s the popular thing to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Who were the executives? County Executive, bank executive, Baseball executives? Without context of who is being critical and what moves they would have made instead it seems like the article is meaningless. From my POV the key sentence in this article: "They signed a long list of players without making a long list of commitments deep into the future." Douglas is clearly looking to upgrade the team through the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I don't see the connection. Fant is young and athletic with potential. Kalil is old, banged up, years beyond his prime, and retired when they signed him. Kalil was brought into to play center. Fant is a hedge against not finding a plug and play tackle in the draft. Fant is a versatile tackle who can play both sides, and is an option at tackle-eligible plays. The two signings are similar in that they both play OL. The connection is 6 games into the year the board is all going to be saying, "omg what have we done?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreenDover Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I think Fant is going to surprise. He’ll at least be better than Beachum. I would bet on that 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: It would be interesting to put names to these un named sources. When I read the article, it seemed like this guy Sando was trying to challenge Manish for the throne to the kingdom... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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