Defense Wins Championships Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Regardless of which era the game has been played in, there have always been and throughout the history of this game plenty of legendary Quarterback and Strong Safety tandems that have graced the field and played the game (together) and consisted of multiple Pro Bowl appearances, 1st-Team All-Pro sections, Hall of Fame Honors and Super Bowl Championship winning teams. Joe Montana / Ronnie Lott (49ers). Terry Bradshaw / Donnie Shell (Pittsburgh). Troy Aikman / Darren Woodson (Dallas). Brett Favre / LeRoy Butler (Green Bay). Brad Johnson (sarcasm) / John Lynch (Tampa Bay). Tom Brady / Rodney Harrison (Patriots). Peyton Manning / Bob Sanders (Colts). Ben Roethlisberger / Troy Polamalu (Steelers). Russell Wilson / Kam Chancellor (Seattle). Patrick Mahomes / Tyrann Mathieu (Kansas City). Darren Woodson for example (who Jamal Adams reminds me of) played his Strong Safety position for Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys throughout the 1990's and was the heart and soul and leader of their Dallas defenses - and only averaged 1.9 Interceptions per season (12 years) - but still goes down in history as an All-Time great Strong Safety and and one who earned 5 Pro Bowl selections, 4 First-Team All-Pro honors and 3 Super Bowl titles. Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams: - Two Blue-Chip prospects out of historic college programs (USC and LSU). - Only 22 and 24 years of age (still developing). - Two natural born leaders to build our Franchise around (Two Franchise Players). - One for each side the ball (both offense and defense). - Potential to become one of the greatest Quarterback and Strong Safety duo(s) to ever lead/win together. - Two Homegrown (drafted) NYJ talents. Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams: Sam Darnold has the talent and ability to become our first Franchise Quarterback to accomplish something that has not been accomplished since dating back to Joe Namath (and go down as an NY Legend). Jamal Adams has the talent and ability to become the greatest Jets Safety of All-Time (while reinventing his position and becoming a Generational Safety). Together and as teammates both of Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams can become NFL Champions alongside of one another (and for many of years to come). A QB/SS duo can get it done together. As it's been done together multiple times before. 1 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pdxgreen Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Isn't this like comparing the greatest Conductor/Piccolo Instrumentalist combos in world symphony history? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 QB and SS..the weirdest two positions to create a correlation between and point to as the source of team success lol. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Defense Wins Championships Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 I just wanted to point out one thing: no great Strong Safety has ever prevented their teams (and offenses) from ever winning a Super Bowl Title (as proven above). And I'm still trying to figure out how Jamal Adams can be labeled as a non impact box safety despite... • Playing all over the field (roaming our entire defense) while being able to line up @ each and every defensive position (outside of D-Line). • Ranked 7th last year amongst all (Strong and Free) Safetys in pass coverage (with a coverage rating that's higher than most #1 Corners). • Was on pace of setting an All-Time single season (Secondary) record for sacks. • Having just as many (10) if not more tackles for loss behind the L.O.S than the likes of LB's/DT's/DE's alike in Jadeveon Clowney, Von Miller, Demarcus Lawrence, Lavonte David, Terrell Suggs, Ndamukong Suh, Calais Campbell, Khalil Mack (etc, etc) and right behind the likes of Myles Garrett (11), DeForest Buckner (11) and Josh Allen (11) - who's only jobs within the trenches are to pin their ears back and live in an opponents backfield: in other words Jamal Adams is one of the greatest secondary players of All-Time in regards to making game changing plays behind the line of scrimmage (for loss). ✓ Can line up all over the defense. ✓ Can smell out and completely stop the run. ✓ Great rating in pass coverage. ✓ Lives in the backfield. ✓ And is already one of the greatest pass rushing/blitzing/QB hitting/sacking secondary players of All-time with 12.0 sacks (in only 3 years!) • Deon Sanders 1.0 sack, Darrelle Revis 2.0 sacks, Sean Taylor 2.0 sacks, Steve Atwater 5.0 sacks, Ed Reed 6.0 sacks, Darren Sharper 7.5 sacks, Ronnie Lott 8.5 sacks, Darren Woodson 11.0 sacks, Troy Polamalu 12.0 sacks, John Lynch 13.0 sacks etc and the two greatest blitzing Safety's of All-Time; Adrian Wilson 25.5 sacks (12 years later) and Brian Dawkins 26.0 sacks (16 years later). × How can any of this be labeled as "box safety" and/or "non impact" Can someone please explain this to me, and thoroughly too?. So no. Maybe Jamal Adams as a secondary player isn't the most prolific Interception artist that's ever played the game, but then again... • He's already one of the greatest blitzing/QB hitting/pass rushing/living behind the L.O.S Secondary Players of All-Time (you can not take this away from him after only 3 years of play) along with having great run stopping and pass coverage ratings to boot. Jamal Adams is completely reinventing his position and the style in which it's played with (over night too); and some of you don't even know it, yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: ✓ And is already one of the greatest pass rushing/blitzing/QB hitting/sacking secondary players of All-time with 12.0 sacks (in only 3 years!) × How can any of this be labeled as "box safety" and/or "non impact" Jamal Adams is completely reinventing his position and the style in which it's played with (over night too); and some of you don't even know it, yet. daniel jones and dwayne haskins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Interesting idea for a thread. However, Ronnie Lott was a FS for the 49ers. He didn't play SS until he went to the Raiders as a Plan B FA. He returned to FS when he joined the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 John Brodie and Rosie Taylor (49ers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, pdxgreen said: Isn't this like comparing the greatest Conductor/Piccolo Instrumentalist combos in world symphony history? Greatest Janitor and QB combo. Without clean locker rooms, where would be be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Well, that's definitely NOT happening right now. Of course, Jamal Adams is a stud. There isn't anything he does that he doesn't do BETTER than anybody else. Sam Darnold, however, SUCKS against the patsies. Sammy has got to be much more consistent against good teams before he gets praise as a best QB/Safety duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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New York Mick Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Has anybody examined the best Tight End / Long Snapper combos in NFL history? Just curious. No but that would be a good porn series. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 no doubt the safeties listed were all very good and integral parts of their team's championship runs. the safeties were all pretty much the qb's of those defenses so there is a comparison between the qb position and the safety position. at the same time the nfl is a business and it's hard to justify paying adams way more than the position is worth. is he worth being paid more than any other safety to date? maybe but let's not forget that just because one owner over values a player doesn't mean they all need to follow suit. imo the jets need to offer adams a nice top 5 salary with some good guarantees. but i don't want them to be held hostage to a hold out or overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Big Ben & Polamalu, and it's not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Has anybody examined the best Tight End / Long Snapper combos in NFL history? Just curious. Sometimes the tight end IS The long snapper - what would you do then? Also, what about punter / cheerleader combos? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said: I just wanted to point out one thing: no great Strong Safety has ever prevented their teams (and offenses) from ever winning a Super Bowl Title (as proven above). And I'm still trying to figure out how Jamal Adams can be labeled as a non impact box safety despite... • Playing all over the field (roaming our entire defense) while being able to line up @ each and every defensive position (outside of D-Line). • Ranked 7th last year amongst all (Strong and Free) Safetys in pass coverage (with a coverage rating that's higher than most #1 Corners). • Was on pace of setting an All-Time single season (Secondary) record for sacks. • Having just as many (10) if not more tackles for loss behind the L.O.S than the likes of LB's/DT's/DE's alike in Jadeveon Clowney, Von Miller, Demarcus Lawrence, Lavonte David, Terrell Suggs, Ndamukong Suh, Calais Campbell, Khalil Mack (etc, etc) and right behind the likes of Myles Garrett (11), DeForest Buckner (11) and Josh Allen (11) - who's only jobs within the trenches are to pin their ears back and live in an opponents backfield: in other words Jamal Adams is one of the greatest secondary players of All-Time in regards to making game changing plays behind the line of scrimmage (for loss). ✓ Can line up all over the defense. ✓ Can smell out and completely stop the run. ✓ Great rating in pass coverage. ✓ Lives in the backfield. ✓ And is already one of the greatest pass rushing/blitzing/QB hitting/sacking secondary players of All-time with 12.0 sacks (in only 3 years!) • Deon Sanders 1.0 sack, Darrelle Revis 2.0 sacks, Sean Taylor 2.0 sacks, Steve Atwater 5.0 sacks, Ed Reed 6.0 sacks, Darren Sharper 7.5 sacks, Ronnie Lott 8.5 sacks, Darren Woodson 11.0 sacks, Troy Polamalu 12.0 sacks, John Lynch 13.0 sacks etc and the two greatest blitzing Safety's of All-Time; Adrian Wilson 25.5 sacks (12 years later) and Brian Dawkins 26.0 sacks (16 years later). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ × How can any of this be labeled as "box safety" and/or "non impact" Can someone please explain this to me, and thoroughly too?. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So no. I agree. Maybe Jamal Adams as a secondary player isn't the most prolific Interception artist that's ever played the game, but then again... • He's already one of the greatest blitzing/QB hitting/pass rushing/living behind the L.O.S Secondary Players of All-Time (you can not take this away from him after only 3 years of play) along with having great run stopping and pass coverage ratings to boot. Jamal Adams is completely reinventing his position and the style in which it's played with (over night too); and some of you don't even know it, yet. Defense Wins Championships > @Raideraholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Defense Wins Championships Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, rangerous said: no doubt the safeties listed were all very good and integral parts of their team's championship runs. the safeties were all pretty much the qb's of those defenses so there is a comparison between the qb position and the safety position. at the same time the nfl is a business and it's hard to justify paying adams way more than the position is worth. is he worth being paid more than any other safety to date? maybe but let's not forget that just because one owner over values a player doesn't mean they all need to follow suit. imo the jets need to offer adams a nice top 5 salary with some good guarantees. but i don't want them to be held hostage to a hold out or overpay. Back in the 90's the Cowboys were loaded with superstars (including Aikmam/Woodson (@ QB/SS). Take 1992 for example: The Salary Cap was only $38M. Take 2020 for example: The Salary Cap is @ $198M. I just don't want to hear about the Jets not being able to A.) Win with a Darnold/Adams tandem @ QB/SS anymore and B.) The Jets can not afford to pay both Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams long term anymore because C.) Both are possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 We get it You love Jamal Adams and want him deep inside of you. No reason to keep creating thread after thread about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: QB and SS..the weirdest two positions to create a correlation between and point to as the source of team success lol. Franchises such as Green Bay, San Francisco, Dallas, Pittsburgh, N.E, Indianapolis and as recent as Seattle/Kansas City would all disagree with your assessment... Because all won Super Bowls with awesome QB/SS's on their roster(s). It's only a weird correlation for those fans who aren't aware of NFL history throughout the offensive/defensive sides of Football (especially regarding the teams I've mentioned above). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Untouchable said: We get it You love Jamal Adams and want him deep inside of you. No reason to keep creating thread after thread about it. We get it. You all want to convince everyone how Jamal Adams is not an impact defensive performer, he's nothing more than a box safety, can not win with a QB/SS duo, should be traded for the 17th pick, not worth being paid because he's a Safety, has a twitter account etc, etc, etc. No reason to keep posting about it within each and every thread. We get it. (two can play this game): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 How many Jamal Adams threads do you think you're going to make? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Regardless of which era the game has been played in, there have always been and throughout the history of this game plenty of legendary Quarterback and Strong Safety tandems that have graced the field and played the game (together) and consisted of multiple Pro Bowl appearances, 1st-Team All-Pro sections, Hall of Fame Honors and Super Bowl Championship winning teams. Joe Montana / Ronnie Lott (49ers). Terry Bradshaw / Donnie Shell (Pittsburgh). Troy Aikman / Darren Woodson (Dallas). Brett Favre / LeRoy Butler (Green Bay). Brad Johnson (sarcasm) / John Lynch (Tampa Bay). Tom Brady / Rodney Harrison (Patriots). Peyton Manning / Bob Sanders (Colts). Ben Roethlisberger / Troy Polamalu (Steelers). Russell Wilson / Kam Chancellor (Seattle). Patrick Mahomes / Tyrann Mathieu (Kansas City). Darren Woodson for example (who Jamal Adams reminds me of) played his Strong Safety position for Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys throughout the 1990's and was the heart and soul and leader of their Dallas defenses - and only averaged 1.9 Interceptions per season (12 years) - but still goes down in history as an All-Time great Strong Safety and and one who earned 5 Pro Bowl selections, 4 First-Team All-Pro honors and 3 Super Bowl titles. Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams: - Two Blue-Chip prospects out of historic college programs (USC and LSU). - Only 22 and 24 years of age (still developing). - Two natural born leaders to build our Franchise around (Two Franchise Players). - One for each side the ball (both offense and defense). - Potential to become one of the greatest Quarterback and Strong Safety duo(s) to ever lead/win together. - Two Homegrown (drafted) NYJ talents. Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams: Sam Darnold has the talent and ability to become our first Franchise Quarterback to accomplish something that has not been accomplished since dating back to Joe Namath (and go down as an NY Legend). Jamal Adams has the talent and ability to become the greatest Jets Safety of All-Time (while reinventing his position and becoming a Generational Safety). Together and as teammates both of Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams can become NFL Champions alongside of one another (and for many of years to come). A QB/SS duo can get it done together. As it's been done together multiple times before. Jamal Adams is EVERYTHING you say he is.... EVERYTHING. There isn't a single thing he doesn't do tremendously well on the field. He's every single bit as good, this early in his career, as Polamalu, Reed, Lott, and anybody else you'd like to throw into this comparison. But what's ridiculous is you constantly arguing with a bunch of nitwits that have an agenda? Stop arguing with posters that merely want Jamal traded so they can say they were right. They don't know what they're talking about and they never did. Obviously, Joe Douglas and Adam Gase don't give a sh*t what a bunch of posters with an agenda have to say. They are focused on signing him long term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patriot Killa Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Because all won Super Bowls with awesome QB/SS's on their roster(s). Or they won because of other reasons outside of the SS’s you named but okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Defense Wins Championships Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 I remember after only Jamal Adams rookie season (All-Rookie team selection).. He was already getting attacked and labeled a box safety from clueless Jet fans (who had no idea whatsoever in regards to what type of impact player that Jamal Adams already was and/or what type of Pro Bowler and First-team All-Pro that he was going to develop into. (however, I've known all along). So I decided to get creative and think outside of the box in order to prove just how wrong and just how clueless (some of) these NY fans truly were in regards to Jamal Adams as a dominant football player. So instead of taking advice from know it all New Yorkers who still knew nothing about him (after only 1 season); I decided to create a thread on an LSU Football Fan Forum (who are crazy over SEC Defense and Jamal Adams alike) in order to gather information and knowledge from die hard LSU alumni - who knew way more about Jamal Adams - than any so called know it all New York fans could ever know (after watching him develop out of High School and into one of the greatest LSU Safety's of all time). The responses were much different than Jet fan post(s) - And it was a breath of fresh air. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ See for yourselves (responses from LSU faithful): ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 9-12-2018. https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/from-an-ny-jets-fan-as-lsu-alumni-your-overall-thoughts-on-jamal-adams/78699133/ "WTH does this mean (BOX SAFETY)? He was a smart player and made plays while at LSU. I think he will be a great one in the NFL" "He’s a tackling machine. He can mirror wideouts and play as a deep FS but he’s much better when near the LOS "Love me some Jamal" "New York tends to treat all athletes from the southeast with no respect". "Love me some Jamal" "He's good, but not great in coverage. Roams center field well facing the QB, but isn't going to ball hawk. Certainly not a liability with the ball in the air, so it's not really a weakness. He's a tackling machine though. Excels in box. I wouldn't call him just a box safety, that is just his main strength so coaches use him that way". "Jamal is the complete package at Safety. He can do it all but he does excel in the box. Go watch the play he made on Lamar Jackson across the field in the bowl game against Louisville". "Lot of positive energy, sometimes hes a primadonna and seeks too much attention which can be annoying. But overall hes a great ballplayer. Will be around for many years!" "He hits like Ronnie Lott and can cover. I was told by an opposing player, “He good.” "Thats not true. That is certainly his biggest strength, coming up and helping in run support, but he can do more. He can cover TEs, which as a Jets fan I would imagine is especially crucial against NE. Not saying he will lock down Gronk, but he can do just about as good as anyone can against that monster. NYJ just need to learn how to use him best. I wouldn't have him as a sole deep safety. He is a playmaker, so let him come up and make plays. That kind of Safety/OLB/Nickle guy is a trend throughout the NFL right now. Adams is perfect for that role. As Saints fans, the last couple of years we have had Kenny Vaccaro in that position. Jamal Adams is a way better cover guy than Vaccaro". "In my experience, no matter what you do - some significant part of a large fanbase will think / believe the opposite. I really think it is futile. I wish you well. But, no matter what is said about whom - there will be a fairly large group that say "nuh unh" "This. There are going to be times where he can be beaten over the top by letting WR's get behind him. Not a horrible coverage safety by any means...but probably not elite either. However, he's a terrific leader and very few guys play with more passion. He's a playmaker in the box and no team is made WORSE by having him on their club" "Tremendous leader and has all the fight and will to win. Loved having this kid. Outstanding playmaker off the LOS but he also can cover the TE" "he is most certainly a box safety but hes more than just a one trick pony. And I really cannot recall off the top of my head an egregious missed tackle. rarely do RBs or WRs get past him". "Jamal is a beast. End of story". "Jamal absolutely ate up Evan Engram and the good Bama TE that was a high pick". "Adams is sooooo much more than a "box safety". He's a great route reader and great at getting the secondary in the right spots pre-snap. His ability to read a play before the snap is ridiculous. He's fast enough to cover the slot receiver and physical enough to cover the tight end. Sure, he may drop a few INTs he should come up with, but what's harder to measure is his ability to prevent completions before the pass is even made. And yes, he can play center field: Image: https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-17-2017/z7YS-H.gif Image: http://i.giphy.com/4QXyhNwfXOLv2.gif Image: https://thesportsobservercom.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/jamaladams3.gif He's to physical for your average slot receiver to handle at the line but fast enough to jam them and still stay with them if they happen to slip the jam. He's a little small to match up favorably with some tight ends, but he knows that. And he's smart and physical enough to compensate for the size disadvantage". "In our bowl game vs Louisville, Jamal went nearly sideline to sideline and ran down Heisman winner Lamar Jackson". LINK "Jamal Adams effectiveness is more subtle than playmakers such as Tyrann Mathieu(honey badger) and Chad Jones(would have been a monster for the NY Giants) who were both ball hawk playmakers. Jamal Adams is always in position and shines against the run game or middle of the field passing attack. Want to add that the Saints are probably a Jamal Adams away from competing for the Super Bowl". "um jamal adams could've played corner in college bc he's that good in coverage" "Jets fans will be VERY happy with him". "He can play deep, near the line of scrimmage, in the slot, in space, on the goal line. He can blitz, he can tackle, he's a leader, and he plays with controlled enthusiasm and brashness. He was an all-pro rookie". "natural born leader who has many similarities to HOF'er Rod Woodson" "First, Jamal Adams is an extraordinary athlete, and as every Jets fan seems to already know, he is great at run support. He is a good cover guy as well, but I suspect that he's not very good in zone coverage. I say this because there was always a lack of turnovers from Jamal (though I understand he already has an interception after week 1)". "If by Rod Woodson you mean Darren Woodson, then you would be correct." Dat baw good. Translated that means the young man’s an exceptional talent" "Jamal Adams is the realest of deals in the passing game, closing speed, and sure tackling. Anyone who says otherwise is a butthurt Bama fan" "Probably the best all around safety to come out of LSU. True Field general with great athleticism, who demands greatness from his fellow teammates !" "I recall Jam stood out as a Defensive leader his Freshman year...very impressive young man" "He has very good ball skills, and is very underrated in man coverage. A lot of people forget he played in the slot a lot as freshmen. But his best attribute is being able to play in space, as a sophomore in third down situations we would move him to a linebacker spot and let him read the QB and go make a play. Hes special". "Jamal is the real deal. He is better in the box, but he's still above average in pass coverage. He'll be around for a long time so long as he stays healthy" "Box safety? Like a run support only safety?" "thoughts? hes a straight up badass". "omg he destroys that receiver from Wisconsin". "He is a playmaker. First game already has an interception. He is a disrupter and a leader. Plays the game with desire to have fun". "Jamal Adams led the team in interceptions in 2015. Adams was a ridiculous playmaker, a tackling machine, and one of the clear leaders of the team. I love the guy". "I'd be willing to bet that his greatest asset is what you don't see: his leadership. I get the impression that his competitive edge isn't fond of "half-assin" in practice or the game. If your fans don't like him, you should all email the team management and have him traded to the Saints". "Well you've come to the right place. Adams is a player...plain and simple. Dude can hit, tackle and cover". "Beast" I understand what you are trying to do but it would be to just let time make your case. Let them see over time how they are wrong. Because from I have seen of Jets fans in New York you are wasting your time trying to reason with them. "LSU has had a number of great safeties in the last twenty years. Adams is the best. His ability to close fast is something I have not seen before. There are so many plays where he is there before you know it. There are a couple of plays in the Louisville game where he runs down Lamar Jackson like no ones business. Once he gets there he doesn’t miss. As for coverage I never saw him really beat although I am sure I am mistaken here. I think he is a great cover guy as welll Coach on the field.absolute leader If y’all can find one better let me know . My guess is about 28 or so NFL teams would love to have him". "Jets fans are gonna love Jamal Adams, give it time. Come back end of season and tell us your thoughts". "Leadership at that position makes the entire d better". "I think he’s an excellent safety and future pro bowler. He can cover pretty good and he’s a great tackler. He can man up with tight ends or cover the slot or dislodge a man from the ball. Also he can play spy on a running qb". "Ya rewards greater than the risk with Jamal. Maybe he gets beat deep every now n then but he will make many more big plays when he can roam free n the box" "Love everything about Jamal Adams..One of my all time favorite Tigers...played the run as well as the pass..'slick' player as well..always made sure the refs caught the tail end of a 'confrontation' garnering a flag (great acting jobs falling backwards for extra effect)...Love him and miss him..Great Tiger!" "Why are you worried about a "box safety", I learned this week the Jets are the sh*te now, since you have a QB that is the greatest player to ever put on a helmet. The trade to move up to get him will go down as the best move ever in franchise history." "Adams is a stud!" "He single handily brought some energy that the jets haven’t had in recent years as a Rookie. He’s going to be one of those guys that turn the tide for a team like the Jets. Ultimate alpha in an alpha city". "I think Jets fans will be happy with him. I remember him mostly as a great open field tackler. Excellent tackler and seemed to be in on lots of plays at the 2nd level. As far as his acting skills, I think those were brilliant. Very heads up and insured that the refs called it. I don't think he was a ball hawk like Matthieu (honey badger) but he is an excellent open field tackler and can pick up TE's and slot guys efficiently". "After his first two games it was like this for my gf and me(at every home game). A play would go wide and and we'd be like "awww sh*t!" because the opposing runner was heading for daylight. But then we'd see Jamal out there in perfect position and we'd instantly get a sense of relief... BEFORE he even broke down to make the tackle. If that makes sense, that says a ton" "To answer this question, two years ago during the LSU Bama game after Jamal made that interception, Gary Danielson was quoted as saying “Jamal is the smartest guy on the field”. Gary then quoted Lane Kiffin when asked about Jamal Adams to which Lane Kiffin stated “The closest thing I’ve seen in comparison to Jamal Adams is TROY POLAMALU” I think that should answer your “box safety” only fans.." "One of my all time favorite LSU players. The kid was a monster and was always near the ball. Great player and I think he will be a force in the nfl." _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And suddenly you realize just how clueless all of these so called Jamal Adams know it all's truly were (and still are) and/or suddenly realize how smart SEC Crazed LSU fans truly were; they know more about Football and Defense than any Jamal Adams critic could ever know lol and it's been so funny to me over the years (I've loved every second of it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legends of the fall Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Regardless of which era the game has been played in, there have always been and throughout the history of this game plenty of legendary Quarterback and Strong Safety tandems that have graced the field and played the game (together) and consisted of multiple Pro Bowl appearances, 1st-Team All-Pro sections, Hall of Fame Honors and Super Bowl Championship winning teams. Peyton Manning / Bob Sanders (Colts). Though it was short-lived, when Bob Sanders was at his prime, he produced one of the best individual seasons ever at his position. Perfect example of what injuries can do to elite talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Jesus ******* christ. Let Sam become a top 25 QB before we go calling him a future Hall of Famer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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