Darrelle Revis Named to NFL’s 2010s All-Decade Team

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, PCP63 said:

Well deserved, even though I hate him for his holdouts. His 2009 season was unbelievable. 

His 2009 was so good it got him on an undeserved 2011-20 All Decade team. 

[Dunnie]

Fake News

Huh?  He was a washed up bum for 90% of that decade.  Lol 

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[nyjunc]

42 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Ronde had like a 15 year career, 47 picks, a bazillion forced fumbles, most sacks ever for a DB, a boatload of TD's for a DB and never missed a game. His career in its totality is beyond impressive and was still competing at a high level at 38. It's not all that close to me.

He played longer, he didn't come close to approaching the level of play I'd Darrelle Revis-.  Barber was a good player, revis an all time great.

[PCP63]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

His 2009 was so good it got him on an undeserved 2011-20 All Decade team. 

Ehh. Who deserved it over him? He wasn't in his prime then, and definitely fell off when he came back to us, but he was still a good CB up unti lthat point.

[GreenFish]

Who do Jets fan hate more Adams or Revis? Golly. The comments in this thread are surprising. I wasn’t on this board back then. So this is unexpected. 

[nyjunc]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

His 2009 was so good it got him on an undeserved 2011-20 All Decade team. 

3 of his 4 first team all pro selections came in the 2010s which is still as many or more for their careers than all but rod Woodson from your list of CBs better than Revis.

 

And it's the 2010-2019 all decade team not 2011-2020.

[nyjunc]

Just now, GreenFish said:

Who do Jets fan hate more Adams or Revis? Golly. The comments in this thread are surprising. I wasn’t on this board back then. So this is unexpected. 

Jet fans love Brett favre, Eric mangini, Ken O'Brien but hate Rex Ryan, Chad Pennington and Darrelle Revis.  We deserve to lose

[Savage69]

6 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Jet fans love Brett favre, Eric mangini, Ken O'Brien but hate Rex Ryan, Chad Pennington and Darrelle Revis.  We deserve to lose

And Mangini and Kenny O never won a playoff game..

[Matt39]

9 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Jet fans love Brett favre, Eric mangini, Ken O'Brien but hate Rex Ryan, Chad Pennington and Darrelle Revis.  We deserve to lose

I actually really like Ferguson, Mangold, David Harris, Curtis Martin. Competitors. I’d say most Jets fans universally love those guys. Revis was one but lost it somewhere along the way. The DB’s I listed competed the entire time they were in football. 
 

[#27TheDominator]

53 minutes ago, Lil O said:

50 professional sports writers and broadcasters decided Nnamdi was All Pro 3 times between 2008-2010...Revis 2 times.  I will leave it to the pros and we can agree to disagree.

You are agreeing to disagree that whoever was better in 2008-2009 is not relevant to the being on the all-decade team for the 2010s?   I like your enthusiasm, but I'm not sure I can understand your logic.

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, EM31 said:

Appreciating him and canonizing him are two very different things.  It was not all sunshine with him.  Even his on field performances when considered over the life of his career were not all sunshine. Far from it.  Very far from it and that is the point that seems to escape you.

Interesting.  Sherman for example iis a shell of himself and in his 8th season.  Revis was a pro bowl, SB winning cb who was an attribute to the SB winning Pats team in his 8th season.  

What seems to escape you is how good he was for more than a handful of years his detractors try to sell.  you dont like his trying to earn, I get that but dont try and discredit his on field performances, its not a factor and the silly fanbois line is comical

You cant appreciate Revis, CMartin and Adams.  I'm not the one that's escaping reality

[GreenFish]

26 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Jet fans love Brett favre, Eric mangini, Ken O'Brien but hate Rex Ryan, Chad Pennington and Darrelle Revis.  We deserve to lose

Feels like something I should know. Thanks. Brett Favre doesn’t even count for the Jets. 

I get why Revis isn’t universally loved, like a Ferguson, Mangold or Martin. But he was a great player for the Jets. Best Jets player I’ve ever seen. Started watching in the late 90’s so can’t go back to the late 1600’s like some people can.

[southparkcpa]

3 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Feels like something I should know. Thanks. Brett Favre doesn’t even count for the Jets. 

I get why Revis isn’t universally loved, like a Ferguson, Mangold or Martin. But he was a great player for the Jets. Best Jets player I’ve ever seen. Started watching in the late 90’s so can’t go back to the late 1600’s like some people can.

It's like having the HOTTEST GF in school. Then you find out she fukked your brother. She is still hot but something just isn't the same. Guy was great no doubt, but loyalty matters to me a little bit.

[nyjunc]

24 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I actually really like Ferguson, Mangold, David Harris, Curtis Martin. Competitors. I’d say most Jets fans universally love those guys. Revis was one but lost it somewhere along the way. The DB’s I listed competed the entire time they were in football. 
 

Revis was the most fierce competitor of all those guys and the best.

[Kleckineau]

35 minutes ago, PCP63 said:

Ehh. Who deserved it over him? He wasn't in his prime then, and definitely fell off when he came back to us, but he was still a good CB up unti lthat point.

I dont think any fan of the game doesnt consider Revis one of the best ever even if it was for a shorter stint than most greats. When evaluating Revis what exactly does "fell off" as you put it mean? Does it mean the same as he got old and just couldnt do it anymore (at 30 yrs old mind you) or does it mean he was just fat, out of shape and unmotivated except for the cash?

Diehard Revis fans seem willing to forgive the career ending cash grab and just as many Jets fans are not so forgiving.

[GreenFish]

12 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

It's like having the HOTTEST GF in school. Then you find out she fukked your brother. She is still hot but something just isn't the same. Guy was great no doubt, but loyalty matters to me a little bit.

That’s fair. But he still represented this franchise well. He is likely going to the HoF as a Jet. Aside from Mawae and Martin, he’s likely the only guy that’ll make it from the last 20 years. Mangold has a shot.

[Lil O]

47 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

You are agreeing to disagree that whoever was better in 2008-2009 is not relevant to the being on the all-decade team for the 2010s?   I like your enthusiasm, but I'm not sure I can understand your logic.

I’m not arguing in any way that DR shouldn’t be on the all decade team.  Never said that.  He played the majority of his career that decade and deserves to be on that team, whereas Nnamdi played the majority of his career 2000 through 2010 and he also was part of that all decade team. This is really silly all I said was that for three years from 2008 to 2010 sports writers had Nnamdi as an all pro more than Revis meaning they thought he was a better player than Revis for those three years.  Hip hip hurray for Revis!!!  By the way DR is one of my favorite CBs of all time.

[southparkcpa]

23 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

That’s fair. But he still represented this franchise well. He is likely going to the HoF as a Jet. Aside from Mawae and Martin, he’s likely the only guy that’ll make it from the last 20 years. Mangold has a shot.

Can't agree with the bold part, rest I agree.  He held us hostage twice, was over weight, etc.  Great player for 3-4 years for us. I think the majority of NFL fans laugh at how we handled the Revis situation.

[Matt39]

40 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

I dont think any fan of the game doesnt consider Revis one of the best ever even if it was for a shorter stint than most greats. When evaluating Revis what exactly does "fell off" as you put it mean? Does it mean the same as he got old and just couldnt do it anymore (at 30 yrs old mind you) or does it mean he was just fat, out of shape and unmotivated except for the cash?

Diehard Revis fans seem willing to forgive the career ending cash grab and just as many Jets fans are not so forgiving.

Combination of both. When you compare him to the other greats who were still able to make an impact as they got older, switch positions etc...something just falls short. Revis didnt have the ball skills(or possibly the desire) to extend his career and play safety. A lot of the greats played special teams earlier in their careers too. Deion’s career is enhanced by being one of the best return specialists ever. Ditto Rod Woodson.

[nyjunc]

11 minutes ago, Lil O said:

I’m not arguing in any way that DR shouldn’t be on the all decade team.  Never said that.  He played the majority of his career that decade and deserves to be on that team, whereas Nnamdi played the majority of his career 2000 through 2010 and he also was part of that all decade team. This is really silly all I said was that for three years from 2008 to 2010 sports writers had Nnamdi as an all pro more than Revis meaning they thought he was a better player than Revis for those three years.  Hip hip hurray for Revis!!!  By the way DR is one of my favorite CBs of all time.

Revis was establishing his reputation at that time, he was a second year player in 2008. Nnamdi made first team all pro in 2007(Revis' rookie year) and 2009(revis also made it and was best Defensive player in football).

[nyjunc]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Combination of both. When you compare him to the other greats that were able to still make an impact as they got older, switch positions etc...something just falls short. A lot of the greats played special teams earlier in their careers too. Deion’s career is enhanced by being one of the best return specialists ever. Ditto Rod Woodson.

I think being a great return man confuses most fans, they remember return TDs and not getting beat. This is why Jet fans think Aaron Glenn was much better than he was.

[BROOKLYN JET]

6 hours ago, The Crusher said:

How much does it pay? 

Doesn't matter, he's holding out.

[Lil O]

4 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Revis was establishing his reputation at that time, he was a second year player in 2008. Nnamdi made first team all pro in 2007(Revis' rookie year) and 2009(revis also made it and was best Defensive player in football).

Sure, whatever you say brother.  Going back to watching Ozark

[Wonderboy]

5 hours ago, Lil O said:

Bleacher report ranked the top 15 cornerbacks from 2000 to 2009 and Darrell Rivas isn’t even on the list. Nnamdi is number five. Again I think Darrelle Revis is the best cornerback from 2011 to 2015, I’m not saying that Nandi was better overall I’m just saying that he was better between the years 2007 and 2010. And obviously I’m not the only one who thinks that according to BR

Bleacher report LOL LOL LOL  Bleach disinfect repeat

[nyjunc]

33 minutes ago, Lil O said:

Sure, whatever you say brother.  Going back to watching Ozark

What part of the facts I posted are confused with?

[Jets0712]

Couple things. So the Jets had the 2 coaches of the all decade team for a total of 1 year & a day. And revis didn’t get many picks because qbs just simply did not throw it his way. Hence (island) he literally took a half of the playing field away or completely shut down the best Wr he was matched up with every game for 3 years.


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[nyjunc]

To clarify what this other poster is discussing.  From 2007 through 2010 both revis and nnamdi earned official selections as first two all pros.  Revis in 09 and 10, Nnamdi in 08 and 10.  Nnamdi was in years 6 & 8, revis 3 & 4.  Those were the only 2 first team all pro selections for Nnamdi, revis would earn 2 more.  Both made 3 pro bowls in these years, both 08, 09 and 10. These would be the only 3 pro bowls for Nnamdi, revis would make 4 more.

There is no comparison btw these 2 players.

[Lil O]

4 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

What part of the facts I posted are confused with?

Nnamdi was first team all pro 2008 and 2010, not 2007.  He was second team all pro 2006 and 2009.  

[EM31]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

Interesting.  Sherman for example iis a shell of himself and in his 8th season.  Revis was a pro bowl, SB winning cb who was an attribute to the SB winning Pats team in his 8th season.  

What seems to escape you is how good he was for more than a handful of years his detractors try to sell.  you dont like his trying to earn, I get that but dont try and discredit his on field performances, its not a factor and the silly fanbois line is comical

You cant appreciate Revis, CMartin and Adams.  I'm not the one that's escaping reality

Revis was all world for a handful of years and he was literally stealing his paycheck the last few.  The drop off from all world was ridiculously steep but he did make sure to be the highest paid for almost his entire career (except for when he gave a hometown discount to the Pats).

Curtis Martin was not a first ballot HOF running back.  IMO he was only a HOF running back because of his durability not because he was a dominant runner.  We argued over this for years.  The HOF committee agreed with me not you so your Nostradamus gene failed you on that one.

Don't get me started on Adams.  A good player.  maybe even a very good player but not even close to being worth the amount of money that he wants to be paid.  Time to get what we can get and move on.

[nyjunc]

43 minutes ago, Lil O said:

Nnamdi was first team all pro 2008 and 2010, not 2007.  He was second team all pro 2006 and 2009.  

My mistake, I meant 08 and 10.  Same number of 1st team all pros as revis in that time frame and nnamdi was a seasoned very while revis a young, up and coming player.

[nyjunc]

29 minutes ago, EM31 said:

Revis was all world for a handful of years and he was literally stealing his paycheck the last few.  The drop off from all world was ridiculously steep but he did make sure to be the highest paid for almost his entire career (except for when he gave a hometown discount to the Pats).

Curtis Martin was not a first ballot HOF running back.  IMO he was only a HOF running back because of his durability not because he was a dominant runner.  We argued over this for years.  The HOF committee agreed with me not you so your Nostradamus gene failed you on that one.

Don't get me started on Adams.  A good player.  maybe even a very good player but not even close to being worth the amount of money that he wants to be paid.  Time to get what we can get and move on.

He had ONE bad year, 2016.  ONE.  You guys act like he sucked for 5 years.  He was hurt and rehabbing that offseason and then struggled during the year. Other than that year he was great the majority of his career.

[Lil O]

3 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

My mistake, I meant 08 and 10.  Same number of 1st team all pros as revis in that time frame and nnamdi was a seasoned very while revis a young, up and coming player.

I totally think that DR is a much better CB than Nnamdi overall and over their careers. I have only watched nnamdi play one or two games, and I am basing what I said on what I have read. For example I actually worked with Nnamdi this winter on a Broadway show. I was so excited and was telling everyone that he was the number 2 cornerback back in the day and Darrell Revis was number one. I then googled best rated CBs for the year 2010, and they had Nnamdi ranked number one and DR number two. This was their ranking heading into the 2010 season.  I can’t remember who’s ranking it was but it just told me that there are some people, meaning writers and broadcasters, that think that Nnamdi was better than Rivas during those few years. I’m not saying that he was, I’m saying that there were some professionals who thought he was. I’ve read other polls that have DR ranked number one.  I’m saying that he was not the unanimous best CB in the NFL from the years 2007 to 2010. Some think he is but there are obviously some who don’t. I have a DR Jersey signed, hanging in my closet...I am a fan.

[BurnleyJet]

The last paragraph is very interesting.

So much for top cover corner Dion Sanders.

Rice is one of the two best football players ever -- with Jim Brown.

Deion is the best cover corner ever, and a top 20-25 all-time player at ANY position (and that's just at CB; he was also a great punt and kickoff return man)... but Rice was even more dominant. 

Both were not good, not great, not Hall of Fame, but top tier Hall of Fame guys.
Slighting either is silly -- these guys were both amazing.

Head to head? 

In the prime of both players? 

Rice entered the league in 1985; Deion in 1989-90.

I looked up the box scores, though without all-22 game film, it's hard to know on which plays the two were singled, or if Deion had help over the top, etc. (unlikely) vs. Rice.

I'm going to give Deion the benefit of the doubt and assume he played Jerry straight up here, at least after 1990 (Deion's rookie season).

1990 - SF vs. Atlanta, 2 games. Rice goes off for 8-171-1 in game 1 Atlanta Falcons at San Francisco 49ers - September 23rd, 1990... then Rice goes 13-225-5 TDs. Deion plays both games as a rookie, but doesn't get singled on Rice; Rice abuses the other corner, Charles Dimry, for all 6 TDs. Still, Deion was on the field and didn't slow Rice down - at all.  Atlanta Falcons at San Francisco 49ers - September 23rd, 1990

1991 - SF vs Atlanta, 2 games. Rice goes 7-138-1 Atlanta Falcons at San Francisco 49ers - October 13th, 1991 in game one; in game 2, Rice goes 6-44-0. In game two, he got man-to-man from Deion, with a long catch of 10 yards; that's as good as it gets vs. Rice.

1992 - Rice goes off for 7-183-2 in first game Atlanta Falcons at San Francisco 49ers - October 18th, 1992; Rice goes 4-45-1 in second game San Francisco 49ers at Atlanta Falcons - November 9th, 1992. BUT: Deion missed the first game with injury, so you can see he made a big difference in the second one.

1993 - went head to head just once, Rice going 6-105-0 San Francisco 49ers at Atlanta Falcons - December 11th, 1993

1994 - teammates.

1995 - Rice goes 5-161-1 vs. Dallas. Granted Deion is NOT in coverage on many of the plays; SF moves Rice around. Dallas owner Jerry Jones almost fired defensive coordinator Dave Capo after this game.

Deion clearly held Rice down vs. his normal production head to head, but he did NOT shut him down. Rice still was a huge factor.

It's not like Rice ever went 1 catch for 1 yard in a playoff game vs. Deion, like (future HOFer) Reggie Wayne did vs. (future HOFer) Darrelle Revis one time.

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, EM31 said:

Revis was all world for a handful of years and he was literally stealing his paycheck the last few.  The drop off from all world was ridiculously steep but he did make sure to be the highest paid for almost his entire career (except for when he gave a hometown discount to the Pats).

Curtis Martin was not a first ballot HOF running back.  IMO he was only a HOF running back because of his durability not because he was a dominant runner.  We argued over this for years.  The HOF committee agreed with me not you so your Nostradamus gene failed you on that one.

Don't get me started on Adams.  A good player.  maybe even a very good player but not even close to being worth the amount of money that he wants to be paid.  Time to get what we can get and move on.

Handful of years.  Got that believe this.  8 seasons is now a handful of years.  As I said. in his 8th season he went to the pro bowl and was a big part of the Pats winning a SB.   So yeah, I dont agree with the handful excuse, its just not true.

Fun fact, if not for those who were in their final years of eligibility Curtis Martin goes in first ballot.  That some football fans buy into "first ballot" as if its a rating system like baseball is also funny.  A panel of voters were on talking about just that.  Football, unlike baseball has limits on the number of players who can go in on any given year.  So if a Martin comes up along with a number of players on their last year, Martin waits.  The voters on the panel used Martin as an example, said obviously he should go in.  Why not, without the excuses, he was the 3rd or 4th all time leading rusher in the history of the NFL.  All the excuses cant change that.  

I won't get you started on Adams.  Its just more of the same.  The best you can do is hes really good but plays S.  So what, hes still really good.  But wait for it, excuses to wait.  Hes going to want more than hes worth.  Another crystal ball defense.  Now were onto all the bazillions he'll want.  

You dont like our good players anywhere as much as others outside of the organization.  I get that, not a big deal just accept it without some defense where there is none.  Martin is in the HOF.  Revis is going into the HOF, book it.  And hopefully Adams plays well enough, long enough to join them.  Thats what fans should hope for.  Doesnt make fans fanbois. 

 

[EM31]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

Handful of years.  Got that believe this.  8 seasons is now a handful of years.  As I said. in his 8th season he went to the pro bowl and was a big part of the Pats winning a SB.   So yeah, I dont agree with the handful excuse, its just not true.

Fun fact, if not for those who were in their final years of eligibility Curtis Martin goes in first ballot.  That some football fans buy into "first ballot" as if its a rating system like baseball is also funny.  A panel of voters were on talking about just that.  Football, unlike baseball has limits on the number of players who can go in on any given year.  So if a Martin comes up along with a number of players on their last year, Martin waits.  The voters on the panel used Martin as an example, said obviously he should go in.  Why not, without the excuses, he was the 3rd or 4th all time leading rusher in the history of the NFL.  All the excuses cant change that.  

I won't get you started on Adams.  Its just more of the same.  The best you can do is hes really good but plays S.  So what, hes still really good.  But wait for it, excuses to wait.  Hes going to want more than hes worth.  Another crystal ball defense.  Now were onto all the bazillions he'll want.  

You dont like our good players anywhere as much as others outside of the organization.  I get that, not a big deal just accept it without some defense where there is none.  Martin is in the HOF.  Revis is going into the HOF, book it.  And hopefully Adams plays well enough, long enough to join them.  Thats what fans should hope for.  Doesnt make fans fanbois. 

 

I like our good players just fine.  I just think that there is a small but highly vocal percentage of jets fans who massively overrate them.

Massively