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2 hours ago, PS17 said:

Is the board always this excruciating pre-draft? 

Given we are all under lockdown it might be worse

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4 hours ago, JetsLife said:

Or at least I'll be surprised if he does. Why?

- Douglas seems to have a good amount of old school about him. And old-school types like a Parcells, Belichick - did they ever go WR round 1? I remember their 1st-round picks more along the lines of d-line, o-line, defense in general.

- His background: a former college offensive linemen, reared in the Baltimore and Philly personnel departments, teams that generally featured stout o-lines when he was there. 

- He's mentioned multiple times the importance of protecting Sam up front, giving his talented young QB the best chance to succeed. Such as here: “Obviously we need to have a strong offensive line. We have to do a good job of taking care of Sam moving forward,” Douglas said (https://nypost.com/2020/02/25/joe-douglas-background-shows-what-jets-makeover-could-be/).

- And here, also from the NY Post: Douglas must — and will — fix the broken offensive line, which needs at least three new starters in 2020. “The line of scrimmage is always going to be a priority here,’’ said Douglas, a former college offensive lineman (https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/joe-douglas-first-big-chance-to-rebuild-jets-is-finally-here/).

So I doubt JD goes WR round 1.

Another reason why, more ancillary: his biggest offseason WR acquisition Breshad Perriman - a complete 1st-round bust in Baltimore. Although Douglas wasn't there when Baltimore drafted him, that's exhibit 1 on his roster of a first-round WR bust.

However, If JD does take a WR in round 1, I won't be surprised if it's Ruggs. From the Post: 

The Jets offense, which ranked dead last in the NFL last season, needs more than just linemen. The unit needs some explosive playmakers, especially if it loses Robby Anderson in free agency. “I think you saw that in the two teams that competed for the Super Bowl this year,” Douglas said. “How many explosive players they had on both sides of the ball. Everyone is trying to get bigger, faster, smarter, tougher. We need explosive guys. We need explosive, dynamic playmakers.”

 

 

 

The short version:

I have this feeling so I'm going to write a really long post full of obvious points. 

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So the thread title reads Douglas Aint taking a WR in the 1st, then you open with "Or at least I'll be surprised if he does. Why?"

 

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4 hours ago, Philc1 said:

No it was Kraft who made that pick and Parcells blew a gasket because he didn’t want him.  That’s part of why Parcells left the pats and coached the jets

Youre out of your mind if you think Kraft drafted anyone

 

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I am so sick of hearing about how Parcells picked O line.  That fat **** left the Giants and Pats to "pick his own groceries" and he NEVER picked O line in the 1st.  His very first draft he traded down twice to pass on HOF left tackles for a light LB he thought would be the next LT -  a guy that wouldnt flourish until he moved inside. If we are following his model we are trading out of Becton and Thomas for D.  Maybe if we are lucky he will take David Loverne in the 3rd.

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Umm Douglas has also said his focus is to get elite playmakers which last time I checked included WR. OT is probably a bigger need but he will pick a WR if that is the best option, and it is probably 2nd option going into the draft

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5 hours ago, chirorob said:

Parcels took Terry Glenn #1

She was a very overrated pick

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5 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I know this to be true because he was bitten by a rattlesnake in the desert.

I think there was $100k sitting there and he decided to take the OT....

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6 hours ago, JetsLife said:

Or at least I'll be surprised if he does. Why?

- Douglas seems to have a good amount of old school about him. And old-school types like a Parcells, Belichick - did they ever go WR round 1? I remember their 1st-round picks more along the lines of d-line, o-line, defense in general.

- His background: a former college offensive linemen, reared in the Baltimore and Philly personnel departments, teams that generally featured stout o-lines when he was there. 

- He's mentioned multiple times the importance of protecting Sam up front, giving his talented young QB the best chance to succeed. Such as here: “Obviously we need to have a strong offensive line. We have to do a good job of taking care of Sam moving forward,” Douglas said (https://nypost.com/2020/02/25/joe-douglas-background-shows-what-jets-makeover-could-be/).

- And here, also from the NY Post: Douglas must — and will — fix the broken offensive line, which needs at least three new starters in 2020. “The line of scrimmage is always going to be a priority here,’’ said Douglas, a former college offensive lineman (https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/joe-douglas-first-big-chance-to-rebuild-jets-is-finally-here/).

So I doubt JD goes WR round 1.

Another reason why, more ancillary: his biggest offseason WR acquisition Breshad Perriman - a complete 1st-round bust in Baltimore. Although Douglas wasn't there when Baltimore drafted him, that's exhibit 1 on his roster of a first-round WR bust.

However, If JD does take a WR in round 1, I won't be surprised if it's Ruggs. From the Post: 

The Jets offense, which ranked dead last in the NFL last season, needs more than just linemen. The unit needs some explosive playmakers, especially if it loses Robby Anderson in free agency. “I think you saw that in the two teams that competed for the Super Bowl this year,” Douglas said. “How many explosive players they had on both sides of the ball. Everyone is trying to get bigger, faster, smarter, tougher. We need explosive guys. We need explosive, dynamic playmakers.”

 

 

 

That statement is like a dart board... just keep throwing them, you're bound to hit the bullseye. 😉

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Douglas played a key role in drafting our very own Brahsard Perriman in round one when he was with Baltimore 

Douglas left Baltimore after the 2014 season, went to the Bears for one year where he met Adam Gase then ended up with Eagles in 2016.

 

Perriman was drafted in 2015. I seriously doubt he had anything to do with that draft.

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3 hours ago, Claymation said:

Douglas left Baltimore after the 2014 season, went to the Bears for one year where he met Adam Gase then ended up with Eagles in 2016.

 

Perriman was drafted in 2015. I seriously doubt he had anything to do with that draft.

He said he said so himself in his free agent press conference.

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You don’t say you wana help Darnold then don’t sign Robby or get a weapon in the draft. We are going wr at 11

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What we truly need are 2 picks in either the 1st or 2nd rounds. We all know the only way to do that is via a trade, or trade downs. My preference would be a trade to get 2 1st's. Get both an OT and WR, either Thomas/Wills and Jefferson, or Jeudy and Jones/Cleveland. Outside a trade, there's no real way of accomplishing getting 2 first's, so trading down is the only way to get 2 seconds. Late 1st could nab us Jefferson/Mims, and 2nd could nab us Jones/Cleveland/Cushenburry, and Pittman.

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12 hours ago, chirorob said:

Parcels took Terry Glenn #1

And how did she work out?

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13 hours ago, JetsLife said:

Or at least I'll be surprised if he does. Why?

- Douglas seems to have a good amount of old school about him. And old-school types like a Parcells, Belichick - did they ever go WR round 1? I remember their 1st-round picks more along the lines of d-line, o-line, defense in general.

- His background: a former college offensive linemen, reared in the Baltimore and Philly personnel departments, teams that generally featured stout o-lines when he was there. 

- He's mentioned multiple times the importance of protecting Sam up front, giving his talented young QB the best chance to succeed. Such as here: “Obviously we need to have a strong offensive line. We have to do a good job of taking care of Sam moving forward,” Douglas said (https://nypost.com/2020/02/25/joe-douglas-background-shows-what-jets-makeover-could-be/).

- And here, also from the NY Post: Douglas must — and will — fix the broken offensive line, which needs at least three new starters in 2020. “The line of scrimmage is always going to be a priority here,’’ said Douglas, a former college offensive lineman (https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/joe-douglas-first-big-chance-to-rebuild-jets-is-finally-here/).

So I doubt JD goes WR round 1.

Another reason why, more ancillary: his biggest offseason WR acquisition Breshad Perriman - a complete 1st-round bust in Baltimore. Although Douglas wasn't there when Baltimore drafted him, that's exhibit 1 on his roster of a first-round WR bust.

However, If JD does take a WR in round 1, I won't be surprised if it's Ruggs. From the Post: 

The Jets offense, which ranked dead last in the NFL last season, needs more than just linemen. The unit needs some explosive playmakers, especially if it loses Robby Anderson in free agency. “I think you saw that in the two teams that competed for the Super Bowl this year,” Douglas said. “How many explosive players they had on both sides of the ball. Everyone is trying to get bigger, faster, smarter, tougher. We need explosive guys. We need explosive, dynamic playmakers.”

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jetworks said:

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this one too (n):

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1 minute ago, Dcat said:

this one too (n):

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To be fair, he wasn't drafted by Parcells or similar "old school" type of coach. 

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1 minute ago, Jetworks said:

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And, more recently, Belichick took N'keal Harry in R1 last year.  I defintiely think WR is in play in R1 this year.

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I’ll say this, if JD doesn’t go WR at 11 it will be because the WR he wanted was already drafted.   I don’t expect the Jets to have every WR available to them at 11.   Just a hunch though.  

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imo if there isn't an olineman at 11 they really want then they will trade back and pick up one or more of the second tier guys.  i think picking a wr isn't out of the picture nor is picking a cb.  with regard to the wr's none of them is ranked as being off the charts good of course tyreek hill was a 5th rounder so who knows what the rankings actually mean in real life.

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10 hours ago, Dupe said:

I recall many of those old time coaches saying you don’t pick those fatties on the offensive line in the first round.   

Well that settles it then. Going WR at 11!

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13 hours ago, Philc1 said:

No it was Kraft who made that pick and Parcells blew a gasket because he didn’t want him.  That’s part of why Parcells left the pats and coached the jets

...and then proceeded to take Keyshawn #1 overall. 

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My preference is OL at 11.  Protect Sam and we will get the ball to whoever gets open. There are many WR’s in this class. So a 2nd rounder may not be the best but probably won’t be a bust either. The best teams in the NFL today more than not have solid O-lines. Plus it will make Bell more effective.

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11 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Heads are going to explode when we take Henry Ruggs lll with the 11th pick.

My head will explode but in the happy explosion kind of way.

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11 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I actually agree with this, personally. I suspect in an all time deep WR draft Douglas is going OL or DL in round one.

 

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ummmm, BB just took N'Keal Harry in the 1st round.

 

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1 hour ago, freestater said:

...and then proceeded to take Keyshawn #1 overall. 

Kotite took Keyshawn in 1996, Parcells got here in 1997 inheriting the #1 pick in each round and traded the top pick away which turned out to be a Hof LT for a decent LB and other picks that failed

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1 minute ago, JiF said:

ummmm, BB just took N'Keal Harry in the 1st round.

 

And that will probably scare him off WRs in the 1st round for another 20 years.

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8 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Kotite took Keyshawn in 1996, Parcells got here in 1997 inheriting the #1 pick in each round and traded the top pick away which turned out to be a Hof LT for a decent LB and other picks that failed

While he might have been a great coach, he sure didn't know what type of groceries to buy...

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