Popular Post InstantClassic Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29020239/how-jets-made-nfl-draft-history-2000-trades-chicken-wings The New York Jets didn't plan to make NFL draft history in 2000. Ironically, it started with a hostile divorce. And then another. After three seasons of relative prosperity under Bill Parcells, who had stepped down as coach after the 1999 season, the Jets reverted to their past reputation with the shocking departures of coach Bill Belichick and star wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson. They were cast as an organization in chaos, unable to keep their best employees happy. New millennium, Same Old Jets. Then the 2000 NFL draft happened. In one wild, franchise-altering afternoon, the Jets made four first-round picks -- unprecedented in the common-draft era (since 1967). There have been 16 instances when a team made three selections in the first round, most recently last year with the New York Giants and Oakland Raiders, but the 2000 Jets stand alone. Long before it was trendy to refer to picks as "draft capital," the Jets were the ultimate capitalists. They "traded" disgruntled Belichick to the New England Patriots for a first-round pick, and they dealt Johnson -- who was embroiled in a contract dispute -- to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for two first-rounders. It gave them four, including their own. To the surprise of many, the Jets used them all. "It's a rarity, and it probably won't happen again," said longtime ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. A few days after the draft, Parcells, who had stayed on as the director of football operations, told friends it would be remembered as one of the best drafts in league history. Because of its uniqueness, and because of the results over time, it deserves a mention in the "most memorable drafts ever" conversation. The four players -- defensive end Shaun Ellis, linebacker John Abraham, quarterback Chad Pennington and tight end Anthony Becht -- played a combined total of 49 years and 632 games. Not one of them played fewer than 11 seasons. Abraham and Ellis combined for seven Pro Bowls. Their impact on the team was undeniable. In the seven seasons before the 2000 draft, the Jets made the playoffs one time. In the seven years after, they did it four times. "To hit on all four [first-round picks], and to have them all play such a long time and be remembered still, it's an outstanding accomplishment," said former Dallas Cowboys executive Gil Brandt, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It took a well-designed plan, a last-minute trade and a little luck. Here's a look at the players and at the people who made it possible: Bill Parcells, director of football operations Parcells, who famously left the Patriots in 1997 because he wasn't allowed to shop for the groceries before cooking the meal, was given carte blanche with the Jets. After promoting Al Groh to replace him on the sideline, Parcells maintained final say on personnel and ran the organization in an Oz-like fashion. He stayed hidden from the media but was the booming voice behind the curtain, pulling the levers. It took guts to trade Johnson, a dynamic wide receiver, but Parcells shipped him off because of "the economics," he said. Parcells knew he was going to leave the organization in a year, which he did, and he wanted to leave the franchise in a good place. In a recent interview with ESPN, Parcells downplayed those intentions, insisting his objective was simply to find good players for the coach. As it turned out, four coaches benefited -- Groh, Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan, all of whom coached at least one of the four players. "When you're picking four in the first 27, you figure you better do something," Parcells said. "You'd be disappointed if that didn't turn out OK. I'd like to have that every year." Parcells credited personnel director Dick Haley for playing an instrumental role. A holdover from the previous regime, Haley made his bones as the personnel chief for the Pittsburgh Steelers during their 1970s dynasty. Despite their different personalities -- Parcells was fire, Haley calm and cool -- they hit it off. "He was one of the best personnel guys in the history of the league," Parcells said. "He was the best guy I could've had next to me at the Jets. There just wasn't a better guy." Shaun Ellis, DE, No. 12 pick Career highlights: He played 12 seasons, his final year with the Patriots in 2011. He played in 184 out of 192 games, recorded 73.5 sacks and made two Pro Bowls. On the eve of the draft, Parcells phoned former coaching adversary Bill Walsh, the San Francisco 49ers' vice president, to propose a trade. Think about that for a second: Here were two of the greatest in history discussing a draft-pick swap. Targeting Ellis, Parcells traded the 16th pick (acquired in the Belichick deal) and a second-rounder to move up four spots. The Jets wanted pressure players for their 3-4 defense, and they had ID'd Ellis as one of the best in the draft. The trade-value chart says the Jets gave up too much, but Parcells didn't give a damn. He went by instinct, not what it says on a piece of paper. He talked about adhering to a philosophy, adding, "I don't want to call it a formula because that's out of date. I'll say 'algorithms'" -- a sarcastic nod to the current analytics craze. "Bill was very good at trading," Brandt said. "He learned that from [Raiders owner] Al Davis." The Jets were right about Ellis, who made an immediate impact as a rookie. He was a classic Parcells player: Big, tough and durable. He played 170 games in a Jets uniform, more than twice as many as any of the other three Jets first-rounders. Ellis received a lucrative contract extension in 2004, but he wasn't re-signed when his contract was up in 2011. At the time, he said the Jets showed "no loyalty" to him. Ellis maintains a home in the New York area, but he has lost touch with his classmates, they say. John Abraham, No. 13 Career highlights: He played 15 seasons for the Jets, Atlanta Falcons and Arizona Cardinals. He finished with 133.5 sacks, 13th on the career list. He was selected to five Pro Bowls and two All-Pro teams. The Jets landed Abraham and Ellis with one phone call. Both players were represented by the same agents, Ricky Lefft and Brantley Evans, who organized a combined draft party at a restaurant in Columbia, South Carolina, not far from where the draft prospects both grew up. When the Jets called Ellis to tell him they were drafting him, they mentioned Abraham would be their next pick (a pick acquired from the Bucs). He was seated alongside Ellis, who simply passed him the phone. Just like that, the Jets had a new pass-rushing tandem. Abraham was a rare commodity, a gifted edge rusher who produced a double-digit sack total in eight total seasons. His original goal was to retire a Jet, but he was traded to the Falcons in 2006. He believes a 2003 DWI arrest destroyed his relationship with Coach Edwards ("We never got along that well," he said), which might have been the beginning of the end. Abraham's career turned out just fine, but it took a physical toll. Forced to retire because of a concussion -- he said tests revealed two spots of blood on his brain -- Abraham experiences occasional migraines and loss of memory. "Sometimes I get a little lost in life," said Abraham, who moved out of a house and into a condo because the smaller dwelling made it easier to find objects such as his credit cards and car keys. "There are certain things that I can't do that I used to do." He lives a quiet life, splitting his time between Atlanta and Columbia. His goal is to become a better father, run football camps for kids and start the next chapter. He promised himself that he would have a new direction by the time he was five years out of football. It has been five years. Looking back, Abraham wonders what might have been with the Jets. "It was tough for all of us to leave the Jets, especially when we left and how we left because all of us wanted to finish our careers together," he said, referring to his three first-round classmates. "We knew it was going to be tough to stay together and win a championship. For four first-round picks, that would've been awesome to do." Chad Pennington, QB, No. 18 Career highlights: He led the Jets to the playoffs in 2002, 2004 and 2006. He's fourth on their career passing list (13,738 yards). He led the Miami Dolphins to the AFC East title in 2008 and was twice named NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2006 and 2008). Twenty years later, Kiper still can't believe the Jets got Pennington with the 18th pick. He described it as unconventional strategy. "It's rare to see a team wait to take a quarterback they really believe in as a first-rounder," Kiper said. "This was 2000, so we weren't as quarterback crazy as we are now, but to sit and wait was a gamble -- and it paid off." Parcells said that he had no intention of drafting a quarterback because they felt good with Vinny Testaverde, 37 at the time, and a young Ray Lucas (27), but that he felt Pennington's value was too good to pass up. Everybody expected the Steelers, in the pre-Ben Roethlisberger days, to grab Pennington with the No. 8 pick. "Everybody" included Pennington, who worked out for Steelers officials in his hometown of Knoxville, Tennessee. The 49ers also showed a lot of interest, but they passed on him at No. 16. In the Jets' war room, Groh told the group it was an unusual opportunity. He was right; it's not often a middle-of-the-pack team gets a shot at a top quarterback prospect. So they pulled the trigger, bringing the blond-haired country kid to the big city. "We owe a lot to Bill Parcells and the organization for doing something historical like that," Pennington said, talking big picture. "Drafting four players in one round is unheard of, especially in the first round. That took a lot of wisdom and courage to do that." Pennington galvanized the team with his smarts and fiery leadership before being abruptly released when the Jets acquired veteran QB Brett Favre in 2008. Pennington was forced to retire in 2010 at age 34 because of multiple shoulder injuries. People around the Jets have always wondered how his career would have played out if he had remained healthy. He has no regrets; he's still close to the game he loves. He's a high school coach in Lexington, Kentucky -- he started a football program from scratch -- and he works as a consultant for the NFL Legends program. A draft-day postscript: In the fifth round, Jets Midwest scout Jesse Kaye lobbied for Tom Brady even though the team already had drafted Pennington. Mike Tannenbaum, a young, front-office executive on Parcells' staff, was in the room and recalled how Kaye stated his case, calling Brady an underrated prospect with great potential. And, well, everybody knows how that worked out. Anthony Becht, TE, No. 27 Career highlights: He played for five teams over the course of 12 seasons, making him the most traveled of the four. He made 188 total receptions, 12th among all players in the 2000 draft. On a pre-draft visit, Becht was informed by Parcells that the team's plan was to draft a tight end, either him or Bubba Franks. When he saw Franks go to the Green Bay Packers at No. 14, Becht thought there was a chance he would be picked by the Jets at No. 18. His anxiety level rose when, with the clock ticking at pick No. 27 (the second pick acquired in the Johnson trade), he still hadn't heard from the Jets. There was a huge draft party in the backyard of his family's home in Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania, and he could hear the nervous murmurs in the crowd. "I was kind of depressed," Becht recalled. "I'm thinking, 'I can't believe Coach Parcells lied to me. This is crazy.'" Becht found out when everybody else did, when it was announced on TV. In a way, the moment symbolized his career because he always was an under-the-radar player, tasked with performing the dirty work. In 2004, his perimeter blocking helped Jets star Curtis Martin win the NFL rushing crown. Although he never attained star status, Becht is proud of his pro career because he was able to adapt quickly to different systems over a long period of time. Like Pennington, Becht has stayed involved in the sport -- as a college football analyst for ESPN. He's also grooming his son, Rocco, a promising high school quarterback in the Tampa, Florida, area. One day recently, he was out of breath when he answered a reporter's call. He had been running routes for his son. His days as a blocking tight end are over. Looking back on the 2000 draft, which included a terrific third-round pick in wide receiver Laveranues Coles, Becht said, "From top to bottom, I don't think you'll ever see that again -- five guys out of one draft class. I know I'm biased, but that's hard to fathom." Mike Tannenbaum, director of pro player development Relatively new to the business in 2000, Tannenbaum managed the Jets' salary cap and negotiated the contracts, which means it was his job to sign the draft picks. In those days, a first-round contract was heavy lifting because this was before the rookie slotting system. The directive from Parcells was to get them done by the start of training camp. With camp approaching, Tannenbaum flew to Chicago to meet with agent Tom Condon, who represented Pennington, the last unsigned pick. They reached an agreement on the eve of training camp, resulting in a spicy reward from Parcells: A bucket of 100 chicken wings from the local Hooters restaurant. "When he got nervous, he would eat," said Parcells, laughing at the memory. "I was a little like that myself in my younger years." Tannenbaum enjoyed the wings, but the biggest satisfaction was knowing he did his part. The scouts scouted, Parcells made the decisions and Tannenbaum got all four first-round picks signed on time for camp. "I didn't want to let anyone down," said Tannenbaum, who is also an ESPN analyst. "It was a feeling of comfort, but it lasted only 10 or 15 minutes. Coach Parcells never let you rest." 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 Parcells was a living god and we should all be so grateful that he ever chose to work for this misbegotten franchise, despite what pitiable Hern-lovers @#27TheDominator and @slats say about his divine legacy. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 Mangini’s 2006 draft was equally amazing, too, btw. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 And @T0mShane loves guys like Parcells and Mangini simply because he never got enough discipline at home. Which is rather obvious. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Good article, abraham the last pass rushing demon this team has had but he did net us mangold. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Obrien2Toon Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 Coles in 3rd round too 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, slats said: And @T0mShane loves guys like Parcells and Mangini simply because he never got enough discipline at home. Which is rather obvious. GET OUT OF MY HEAD 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Good article, abraham the last pass rushing demon this team has had but he did net us mangold. Parcells knew how to find those guys before the triangle numbers became a thing. He got McGinest in New England, Demarcus Ware in Dallas, Abraham here, and brought Cam Wake into Miami. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 We also got Coles in that draft - 3rd round (no 2nd rounder) - so basically the first 5 of the Jets picks in that draft hit. Of course, for me, I'll always remember that Sebastian Janikowski was picked at 1-17, just before Pennington. #theraiders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Parcells knew how to find those guys before the triangle numbers became a thing. He got McGinest in New England, Demarcus Ware in Dallas, Abraham here, and brought Cam Wake into Miami. The Vernon Gholston flop set this team back a lot. We had subsequent defenses that were one pass rusher away from being totally great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jmat321 Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 The idea of the 2000 draft and the Keyshawn trade makes me want to trade Jamal even more 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The Vernon Gholston flop set this team back a lot. We had subsequent defenses that were one pass rusher away from being totally great. Indeed. The only saving grace for that pick is that the 2007 first round was The Bust Olympics. Gholston was the logical pick there, unless they wanted to reach for Brandon Albert. That said, they should have known Gholston was doomed when Parcells passed on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, jmat321 said: The idea of the 2000 draft and the Keyshawn trade makes me want to trade Jamal even more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pdxgreen Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 Listened to that whole draft from my car. Because I was out trying to score some weed and hit up a friend about getting a party together. But I'd been smart enough to print all the draft information. So I'd stop and make a phone call... get in listen to one pick, then go over to another part of town before the Jets drafted again. Think I got the weed by the time Becht was picked. Remember being unsure about that pick because I hadn't followed any of Penn State's games (still bitter about the '95 Rose Bowl.) But anyway, the next few days were a haze because I went on a three days binge at a Rainbow Gathering in the Mt. Hood National Wilderness. Man those hippies and their f-ing drum circles. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: Listened to that whole draft from my car. Because I was out trying to score some weed and hit up a friend about getting a party together. But I'd been smart enough to print all the draft information. So I'd stop and make a phone call... get in listen to one pick, then go over to another part of town before the Jets drafted again. Think I got the weed by the time Becht was picked. Remember being unsure about that pick. But anyway, the next few day I don't remember because I went on a three days binge at a Rainbow Gathering in the Mt. Hood National Wilderness. Man those hippies and there f-ing drum circles. I used to do this with Maccagnan drafts but instead of weed it was PBR and instead of drum circles it was my hall closet. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I used to do this with Maccagnan drafts but instead of weed it was PBR and instead of drum circles it was my hall closet. My remedy was Absolute and Cranberry, and hitting replay several times on the CD player as it blared Jerry Garcia singing Loser. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jmat321 said: The idea of the 2000 draft and the Keyshawn trade makes me want to trade Jamal even more If some team were to offer the Jets two first rounders for Jamal (like they got for KJ), they'd have to make that deal. If Dallas offers their #1 and #3 picks, I'd hope the Jets take the deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, jmat321 said: The idea of the 2000 draft and the Keyshawn trade makes me want to trade Jamal even more Awesome draft. Trade one of best WRs in team history entering his prime Essentially trade bill Belichick who likely would have drafted Brady here and the dynasty would have been ours Draft 4 guys in round 1 where only 1 would last long term Get a steal in Rd 3 but he leaves at 3 years. What a draft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: Awesome draft. Trade one of best WRs in team history entering his prime Essentially trade bill Belichick who likely would have drafted Brady here and the dynasty would have been ours Draft 4 guys in round 1 where only 1 would last long term Get a steal in Rd 3 but he leaves at 3 years. What a draft! 4 starters - playoff berths in 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006. Our last division title in 2002. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, jmat321 said: 4 starters - playoff berths in 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006. Our last division title in 2002. Chad started for essentially 3 close to full seasons Abe 4 Becht 5(and he was HATED by Jet fans) Vinny was QB in 01, Abe and becht were gone by 06 You wouldn't trade those 4 playoff apps for what NE has had? That would have been us if BB stays and drafts Brady which he likely does with the same staff in place he assembled in NE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Chad started for essentially 3 close to full seasons Abe 4 Becht 5(and he was HATED by Jet fans) Vinny was QB in 01, Abe and becht were gone by 06 You wouldn't trade those 4 playoff apps for what NE has had? That would have been us if BB stays and drafts Brady which he likely does with the same staff in place he assembled in NE. Yeah I mean if you could have guaranteed Belichick and Brady then sure. But lets live in reality. The 2000 and 2006 drafts were basically the foundation for two relatively successful stretches in Jets history- and there arent many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Yeah I mean if you could have guaranteed Belichick and Brady then sure. But lets live in reality. The 2000 and 2006 drafts were basically the foundation for two relatively successful stretches in Jets history- and there arent many. The players in the 2000 draft barely played for us. Ellis was the only long term starter. Chad had basically 3 full seasons as a starter, becht played 5 and was booed out of that stadium on a weekly basis, Abraham started for 4 seasons. Coles started 2 seasons then left before we later reacquired a lesser version of him. If Chad and Abraham could have stayed healthy? Grand slam but unfortunately they barely played for us. Shaun Ellis was a solid starting player, he was not a star and he's the only long term starter we had from that draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, nyjunc said: The players in the 2000 draft barely played for us. Ellis was the only long term starter. Chad had basically 3 full seasons as a starter, becht played 5 and was booed out of that stadium on a weekly basis, Abraham started for 4 seasons. Coles started 2 seasons then left before we later reacquired a lesser version of him. If Chad and Abraham could have stayed healthy? Grand slam but unfortunately they barely played for us. Shaun Ellis was a solid starting player, he was not a star and he's the only long term starter we had from that draft. We have different definitions of barely played. Pennington, Ellis, Abraham and Coles were like the best players on the 2002 team that won the division. Parcells also took Randy Thomas in 99 who was really good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Matt39 said: We have different definitions of barely played. Pennington, Ellis, Abraham and Coles were like the best players on the 2002 team that won the division. Parcells also took Randy Thomas in 99 who was really good. Not Ellis, he was considered a bust back then but Chad, Abe and Coles probably were the 3 best or among the 3 best but that's one year? Coles was gone after that. Parcells also had 30+ more picks 1997-1999 and only 2-3 stuck. He was an awful drafter for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Not Ellis, he was considered a bust back then but Chad, Abe and Coles probably were the 3 best or among the 3 best but that's one year? Coles was gone after that. Parcells also had 30+ more picks 1997-1999 and only 2-3 stuck. He was an awful drafter for us. Ellis was a bust? What? Coles was let go by the next regime which was a mistake. As was Randy Thomas. Bradway replaced Coles with what washed up Curtis Conway and then traded back for him when Santana Moss was hiting his stride? Oof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Ellis was a bust? What? Coles was let go by the next regime which was a mistake. As was Randy Thomas. Bradway replaced Coles with what washed up Curtis Conway and then traded back for him when Santana Moss was hiting his stride? Oof. At the time he was considered a bust. Fans and the media were down on him. https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/29/sports/pro-football-new-role-and-attitude-for-ellis-on-jets-defensive-line.html?searchResultPosition=2 They inherited cap hell, they couldn't keep everyone. Be thankful for the expansion draft in 02. Bradway drafted moss in 01, moss became a better WR than Coles but the Jets didn't like paying WRs unless it was wayne chrebet. Key, ces, moss, all the way up to Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, nyjunc said: At the time he was considered a bust. Fans and the media were down on him. https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/29/sports/pro-football-new-role-and-attitude-for-ellis-on-jets-defensive-line.html?searchResultPosition=2 They inherited cap hell, they couldn't keep everyone. Be thankful for the expansion draft in 02. Bradway drafted moss in 01, moss became a better WR than Coles but the Jets didn't like paying WRs unless it was wayne chrebet. Key, ces, moss, all the way up to Anderson. Herman Edwards had Ellis put on like 40lbs to play inside which was a mistake. He had 9 sacks his rookie season under Groh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: Parcells knew how to find those guys before the triangle numbers became a thing. He got McGinest in New England, Demarcus Ware in Dallas, Abraham here, and brought Cam Wake into Miami. Don't forget Dorian Boose! ON EDIT: I have an exceeding poor recollection of Demarcus Ware and confused him with Demarcus Lawrence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: They inherited cap hell, they couldn't keep everyone. Be thankful for the expansion draft in 02. Who inherited? It was that fat ****'s creation. His parting gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, jmat321 said: The idea of the 2000 draft and the Keyshawn trade makes me want to trade Jamal even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Don't forget Dorian Boose! Triangle numbers were Demarcus Ware's downfall. Wasn't his 3 cone like 7.42? I think he is like the only succesful guy over 7.2 Ware hit every metric out of the park I think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: Indeed. The only saving grace for that pick is that the 2007 first round was The Bust Olympics. Gholston was the logical pick there, unless they wanted to reach for Brandon Albert. That said, they should have known Gholston was doomed when Parcells passed on him. Some of us were advocating a trade up for Matt Ryan. Not sure if that was a good thing. Surprising thing is that is the one time that Belichick ended up with a high first. It was his only top 10 pick besides Seymour at six in '01. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Ware hit every metric out of the park I think Of course you are correct. His 3 cone was insane. I was thinking of Demarcus Lawrence! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 hours ago, T0mShane said: Mangini’s 2006 draft was equally amazing, too, btw. So sad that we tout that draft as one of our best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said: So sad that we tout that draft as one of our best. Why? They nailed the 06 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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